New account, not cheating, they said hvh at the start of the match...

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So, I started a new account got prime, connected my phone and everything else...I've got 37h played, and 8 of those are probably just me in the lobby as I sort of fell asleep in front of the computer.

Anyway, got into a game and I'm not bad...not great, but I was mg. This is silver 1. I should by all accounts be dominating the game. Before the game begins and they say hvh? and the other team says yes. After that I don't get a single kill as everyone, and I mean everyone there was blatantly hacking.

Is this really the way CS GO is meant to work? Is this the praised trust factor doing it's absolute best?

[☁アンナとルカス☁]

The best thing what you can try is to dont play normal mm for a month or so. You can play faceIT at that time. After a month of not playing mm your Trust Factor should kinda reset. That's the only thing you can try I guess.

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Yeah, I looked up what it meant, and that...that is just not ok. Feels like it would be very easy to parse chat logs to find sus players who do this if you wanted to put an end to it.

If they want to do stuff like that on private servers, then fine. I don't care. But on the official servers, and then the fact that literally everyone except me had hacks and activated them - THAT is the part that gets me. It just feels so disheartening.

No, everyone is getting the trustfactor they deserve.

And you cant evade your low trustfactor by creating a new account.
Imagin how stupid that must be ? Troll and cheat all you want, then create a new account and have instant hightrust.
Do you really think Valve are idiots ???

Its very simple: you have a low trustfactor on your new account because of what happend on your old account ! They know, that you are the same person.

Plus you are toxic towards russians, just because.

Even if it were possible to block all russians, then YOU would still have a bad game experience because now you will meet the same low trustfactor trolls but from other countries.
Because you have a low trustfactor yourself !

So your problem is not caused by russians. But because of you having low trust. And a low trustfactor is always a you-problem.

Wrong Informations that you spreading once again. My Old Account got banned 5 Years ago for Griefing. I create this Account around 4 Years later and downloaden Cs Go and bought Prime. I had a good Trust Factor I never played against or with Cheaters sure there are some People banned for Cheating but that's normal but never had a Hvh lobby or someone obviously Hacking. I only remember 2 Games where 2 guys cheated really obvious. But that Was after idk 100 Hours in.

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The best thing what you can try is to dont play normal mm for a month or so. You can play faceIT at that time. After a month of not playing mm your Trust Factor should kinda reset. That's the only thing you can try I guess.

Thank you so much for the information, I really appreciate that.

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The best thing what you can try is to dont play normal mm for a month or so. You can play faceIT at that time. After a month of not playing mm your Trust Factor should kinda reset. That's the only thing you can try I guess.

Thank you so much for the information, I really appreciate that.

No problem your welcome :)

[RugOp'81]

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The best thing what you can try is to dont play normal mm for a month or so. You can play faceIT at that time. After a month of not playing mm your Trust Factor should kinda reset. That's the only thing you can try I guess.

Thank you so much for the information, I really appreciate that.

Thats not how it works.
No input = no change in trustfactor.

But please do us all a favor and give it a try. I only suggest you try it a few months instead of one.

[RugOp'81]

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No, everyone is getting the trustfactor they deserve.

And you cant evade your low trustfactor by creating a new account.
Imagin how stupid that must be ? Troll and cheat all you want, then create a new account and have instant hightrust.
Do you really think Valve are idiots ???

Its very simple: you have a low trustfactor on your new account because of what happend on your old account ! They know, that you are the same person.

Plus you are toxic towards russians, just because.

Even if it were possible to block all russians, then YOU would still have a bad game experience because now you will meet the same low trustfactor trolls but from other countries.
Because you have a low trustfactor yourself !

So your problem is not caused by russians. But because of you having low trust. And a low trustfactor is always a you-problem.

Nothing special happened on my old account. Just ordinary playing, no cheats, no abuse, it hasn't gotten banned or anything else. It just started getting really horrendous after this:

https://afkgaming.com/csgo/news/7731-csgo-community-slams-valve-as-trust-factor-fix-does-not-stop-cheaters

And after they claimed they fixed it, it was still absolutely horrendous, so to get out of that living nightmare I started making new accounts.

You just determining that I am toxic towards Russians unfortunatly does not make it true. I make an effort to always be polite.

But I am not going to lie about the stats that csgo.com publishes:

https://csgo.com/news/61096-russia-leads-in-number-of-vac-bans-received-by-players

And it IS a problem. A very, very noticable problem.

And yes, you can actually create a new account and reset your trust factor. I know, because I've added friends on another account and guess what - they could see that my trustfactor had changed.

Computers are not magic, mysterious things that nobody understands. By your logic everyone that starts an account in an internet café, Using the same computer to start a new account, or brothers sharing a family computer would get lower trust rating. Of course it doesn't work like that.

And I think you're wrong about not playing with russians wouldn't solve the issue. The game literally reduces your trust factor if you play with a cheater on your team after they get banned. So when russians are getting banned at a much higher rate than other countries, and when I don't get kicked for not speaking russian - boom, then there is nothing to reduce my trust factor anymore.

Well, turks too, but that's nowhere near the same level of problem as Russians. Going by the stats Turks are no more a problem for Europeans than Chinese are for Americans. And granted, I haven't hung around much in these forums, but I haven't seen any American complain about Chinese hackers, so that should be just fine. A manageble level for trust factor.

I don't think Valve are stupid, no. But I also don't think they care that much. Cheating in CS has been an issue for what? 20 years? They have people who have mad anti cheats in other big games begging them to let them come work for them and fix VAC. But why should they? What incentive do they have to care? They make money from new accounts, and they have a playerbase that is large enough to support itself. Why invest a lot of money into creating something that will make you lose millions of hacking customers?

It's good business to just keep things as it is. The people who leave are replaced with new players due to CS being big and famous anyway.

Funny, how ppl with a low trustfactor ALWAYS know better, than ppl with a actual high trustfactor.

If you know it so well, then why do you still have a low trustfactor ?

And no, trustfactor is not broken, it works fine. And no, its not because of others, as only yourself have influence over your trustfactor.
Low trustfactor = a you-problem.

Doing bad things leads to a low trustfactor, ...NOTHING else.
So figure out what you doing wrong, and stop doing it.

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Yeah, I looked up what it meant, and that...that is just not ok. Feels like it would be very easy to parse chat logs to find sus players who do this if you wanted to put an end to it.

If they want to do stuff like that on private servers, then fine. I don't care. But on the official servers, and then the fact that literally everyone except me had hacks and activated them - THAT is the part that gets me. It just feels so disheartening.

No, everyone is getting the trustfactor they deserve.

And you cant evade your low trustfactor by creating a new account.
Imagin how stupid that must be ? Troll and cheat all you want, then create a new account and have instant hightrust.
Do you really think Valve are idiots ???

Its very simple: you have a low trustfactor on your new account because of what happend on your old account ! They know, that you are the same person.

Plus you are toxic towards russians, just because.

Even if it were possible to block all russians, then YOU would still have a bad game experience because now you will meet the same low trustfactor trolls but from other countries.
Because you have a low trustfactor yourself !

So your problem is not caused by russians. But because of you having low trust. And a low trustfactor is always a you-problem.

As always you have to talk bad about people for no reason and praise a system way more than it deserves.

Valve isn't god. When someone creates a new account neither valve nor trust factor knows that this account is from the same person as another account.

You yourself have no experience in things like having muktiple accounts or playing nonprime but always assume things which fits into your agenda.

When creating a new account want you gift a game to your main from that account it is bugged because valve doesn't recognize that it is the same owner. You have to make a support ticket and let a moderator manually connect both accounts and only then you can gift a game from your second account to your main.

And even when both accounts are linked with each other with that method they still have different trust factor.

This is not only my personal experience based on subjective opinion, it is also underlined by statistical evidence. My main account has 12% of games with banned cheater, my other account has 17%. They are linked woth each other since 4 years, I behave the same on both etc.

Again: You always o ly want to read what fits your agenda. You don't care about facts, stats, evidence or actual experience. The fact that you still claim that people even in non prime would not face any/many cheater when their trust factor would be high (because they behave good) is the biggest prove for that. Even valve has a statement that buying prime drastically improves the trust factor. This stands inside the infobox of the prime advertisement ingame on non prime accounts!!!!!!!

Beside that you never had a non prime account ever and thus have zero experience with that.

@OP
You bought prime, linked your phone but still have low hours. It is quite common on new accounts that the experience can vary a lot depending on the amount of reports you get and got since there is no historical data of that account. The experience should get better over time when more data exists and the fluctuation is decreased.

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Thank you so much for the information, I really appreciate that.

Thats not how it works.
No input = no change in trustfactor.

But please do us all a favor and give it a try. I only suggest you try it a few months instead of one.

I have tried it myself with a Smurf Account and it worked same for alot of people in this Community. But as we all know you are just a troll. You get already banned 3 Times from Steam Community and your Comment Section is full with -rep about your behaviour here. So please stop talking and just leave this Thread. You never give any Advice or usefull Informations.

[Chiyoko]

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Is this really the way CS GO is meant to work? Is this the praised trust factor doing it's absolute best?

Looks like it is. But in a bad way for you.
Most people who play in Silvers I know get cheaters in about 1 of 50-100 matches.
And you instantly got a HvH match there.
It is a sign of that your account got much lower TF than new players usually get.

If you want to get better TF you might to not play CSGO for some time and then play without cheats, without being toxic and don't play with people you don't know (because if they are cheaters it will hit your TF).

[Max]

seems you get trust factor ,sadly a lot of player abuse "report" as revenge because they believe you are hacking or smt without any checking on demo

[Nutsnut]

They've tracked your hardware, payment information, mobile number, ISP ect from one low trust factor account and therefore correctly placed your new account into low trust.

Low Trust should not be as easy to escape as opening a new account

[Max]

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They've tracked your hardware, payment information, mobile number, ISP ect from one low trust factor account and therefore correctly placed your new account into low trust.

Low Trust should not be as easy to escape as opening a new account

you are talking about company that can't deal with people who sell whole accounts on gray market.

also steam gift card and CGnat internet exits lol

[Ray Benchmark]

Nutsnut님이 먼저 게시:

They've tracked your hardware, payment information, mobile number, ISP ect from one low trust factor account and therefore correctly placed your new account into low trust.

Low Trust should not be as easy to escape as opening a new account

Read my post number #22, it debunks that all.

[laut]

buy prime

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Is this really the way CS GO is meant to work? Is this the praised trust factor doing it's absolute best?

Looks like it is. But in a bad way for you.
Most people who play in Silvers I know get cheaters in about 1 of 50-100 matches.
And you instantly got a HvH match there.
It is a sign of that your account got much lower TF than new players usually get.

If you want to get better TF you might to not play CSGO for some time and then play without cheats, without being toxic and don't play with people you don't know (because if they are cheaters it will hit your TF).

I am not using cheats, I am not being as polite as can be - the most toxic thing I have said on this account is "Is it ok with you guys if you don't talk so much next time I get into a situation like that? I can't hear the footsteps"

I did get kicked 2 times though. Once for not speaking Russian, and the other time for not speaking Turkish. I did have 3 Russian children (around 8) say that they reported me (for not instantly dying so they had to wait - I did win about half of those rounds though)

What else? A guy said I cheated, because I was standing in suicide on Dust and a guy hid behind the box near by mid doors and then ran into tunnels whilst shooting 4 shots at me before I killed him with a headshot. He said I was cheating because he said he had aimed right at my head and yet he died, not me. Then the entire team spammed that they had reported me. Here's a screenshot from the replay from his perspective:

https://tffan.com/reported.png (I censored the names, as it's my understanding that you're not allowed to call specific people out on here, but I can send it to you in a pm or whatnot, if you want me to)

You have to understand that it's silver we're talking about. The people reporting, by definition lack the exact same skill needed to determine if someone is cheating. And a lot of them report, not because there is a reason for it, but because they get upset. I think I was voted to get kicked 2 or if it was 3 times yesterday for having killed 3 people, but then dying to the last one.

You have to understand that I am in a situation where I can't even speak to my team mates, because if I do they find out I speak english, and that significantly increases my chances of getting reported or kicked. I think that Trust factor is built on the premise that everyone speaks the same language and that they have attained at least some maturity...

...I played with at least 15 children under 10 yesterday, none of which uttered a single word of english.

And I had a look at the accounts in that match - most of them had like less than 50h game time. I think 3 of them were around 15h playtime. I can't verify, because I've played too many matches since then and it's not in my list anymore, but I'm fairly certain that was the case. I don't think that they had actually played long enough to get a bad trust factor, or they had tried to hide that they were using hacks.