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blakesu Aug 18, 2019 @ 12:03am
9 Wins In A Row No Rank Up?
I've either top fragged or done very well and scored points and had high kills in every match for 8 matches in a row and I haven't gotten a rank up yet? How exactly does the elo in cs:go work? Very confused and trying to improve please help
Last edited by blakesu; Aug 18, 2019 @ 1:49am
Originally posted by 🆁&🆂:
Originally posted by blakesu:

I usually play with a friend who is now also Silver Elite with me, they were actually in my 9 win streak for all nine games. I don't think I play CS without him actually. Either the eighth or ninth win out of that streak was actually a 16-0 with me top fragging that match. It was my first 16-0 and I was hella hyped for it

The maps I usually play are Dust 2, Nuke, Mirage, Inferno, Train and Overpass. The game that broke our streak was on Vertigo. The only map I don't play is Cache because in my own opinion, that map is hot trash. Even when I win on Cache it doesn't feel rewarding or fun so I just never play it.

I'm always willing to try new things. The main role I play is entry fragger but I can also snipe and lurk fairly well. I've been getting better with the shotguns and smgs recently since I used to only use the M4A1-S and AK47.

I don't deeply care about my rank and my placement but I'm just frustrated that I'm doing better than at least half the players in my rank and I'm not finding people that would indicate a rank up or people of similar skill. I also think it's a little strange that you rank up faster through solo queue when this game is heavily focused on teamwork, like obviously you'll play better with friends and communicate better. I thought that playing with friends would be more rewarded than solo play. But if it's true that solo is faster then that's kinda a big rip for me. I'm not big on playing competitive games solo lol I just think they're so much more fun with friends

Only one friend is fine, your ELO is not reduced a lot (and before anybody jumps and says it is not ELO it is rather Glicko, or similar, yes I know).

I understand what you say about team play, but think about it, as we all know, to win you have to play as a team, it is harder for 5 strangers to end up playing as a team and win, thus they get rewarded more...at least this is my theory.

Then the other theory I have is that when I end up in games with cheaters, I also get "good" cheaters in my team too. Thus they carry me to higher ranks :)

The easiest way to rank up thought is if you get into games where your team and the enemy team is a couple of ranks above you and you do as well as you did in the games you described. Two games like that you rank up even on a Tie.

Going back to the ordinal thing I said, start keeping your stats in the site I mentioned before and look at your progress in relation to the rank of the opponents to meet up with. And additionally see who got banned and when.

Another example from my accounts, 9 consecutive losses and no derank:

https://csgostats.gg/player/76561198401903321#/matches

The exact opposite of what you are experiencing...but there is an explanation in the stats. First of all some cheaters were banned in a couple of these games.

Secondly look at the opponents in my last game:

https://csgostats.gg/match/4463033

If I had lost this game I would have deranked for sure, see the difference in rank. Of course those guys were either smurfing or most likely walling their @rses off as usual. When you are about to derank you get this type of games and lose sht lots of ELO. When you are about to rank up you would be in the low rank team and meet high rank players. You will probably lose the game but if you get a few rounds and do well you will get a lot of ELO and your next game is a sure rank up if you do well.
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Funz Aug 18, 2019 @ 12:05am 
it works as a rank system so you are on the rank that matches your skill.
it is not a level up system.
🆁&🆂 Aug 18, 2019 @ 12:08am 
Originally posted by blakesu:
I've either top fragged or done very well and scored points and had high kills in every match for 8 matches in a row and I haven't gotten a rank up yet? How exactly does the elo in cs:go work? Very confused and trying to improve please help

In another account I had 9 consecutive losses, still LEM. The point is, the longer you stay in a rank the longer it takes to come out (up or down rank). Also unless you start seeing opponents way above your rank in your games, rank up is not coming.

Final point, winning matches is not enough, your contribution to every round is what matters.
Icey ✌ Aug 18, 2019 @ 12:12am 
Originally posted by blakesu:
I've either top fragged or done very well and scored points and had high kills in every match for 8 matches in a row and I haven't gotten a rank up yet? How exactly does the elo in cs:go work? Very confused and trying to improve please help
in order to rank up you have to be as good as the people in the higher rank.

would be funny if you come back today and cry about derank. after losing 2 matches or something like that. drawing a picture makes me smile
Commander Makara Aug 18, 2019 @ 12:13am 
There seems to be a lot of misinformation and confusion in this thread.

Skill grouping is not "ranks". Ranks are entirely separate and not related (directly) to wins.

XP is awarded (with bonuses for certain stats) with every official match and this XP contributes to your next Rank (unless at maximum rank). When sufficeint XP is obtained and your account is bemneath the maximum rank, the XP will reset and the rank will increase. At maximum rank, you can exchange back to rank 0 by obtaining that year's tour of duty medallion.

The Skillgroup does not operate on Elo system. It is based upon Glickman's chess rating in that it can take it's own accuracy into account - but has been modified from this.
Skillgroup reflects your (account's) evidenced level of consistent, frequently employed skill in regular, frequent competitive matches. It is solely used for matchmaking purposes so aside from team formation, it's not really worth worrying over.

If you seek to increase your skillgrouping (for whatever reason ??? ) play consistently and frequently with improved levels of skill.
The more games played more frequently at a consistent level of skill will result in a more accurate, stable and less volatile skillgroup determination.
blakesu Aug 18, 2019 @ 12:43am 
Originally posted by Icey ✌:
Originally posted by blakesu:
I've either top fragged or done very well and scored points and had high kills in every match for 8 matches in a row and I haven't gotten a rank up yet? How exactly does the elo in cs:go work? Very confused and trying to improve please help
in order to rank up you have to be as good as the people in the higher rank.

would be funny if you come back today and cry about derank. after losing 2 matches or something like that. drawing a picture makes me smile

I actually just got my nineth win lmao still no rank up
blakesu Aug 18, 2019 @ 12:45am 
Originally posted by Commander Makara:
There seems to be a lot of misinformation and confusion in this thread.

Skill grouping is not "ranks". Ranks are entirely separate and not related (directly) to wins.

XP is awarded (with bonuses for certain stats) with every official match and this XP contributes to your next Rank (unless at maximum rank). When sufficeint XP is obtained and your account is bemneath the maximum rank, the XP will reset and the rank will increase. At maximum rank, you can exchange back to rank 0 by obtaining that year's tour of duty medallion.

The Skillgroup does not operate on Elo system. It is based upon Glickman's chess rating in that it can take it's own accuracy into account - but has been modified from this.
Skillgroup reflects your (account's) evidenced level of consistent, frequently employed skill in regular, frequent competitive matches. It is solely used for matchmaking purposes so aside from team formation, it's not really worth worrying over.

If you seek to increase your skillgrouping (for whatever reason ??? ) play consistently and frequently with improved levels of skill.
The more games played more frequently at a consistent level of skill will result in a more accurate, stable and less volatile skillgroup determination.

I am playing frequently to the point of almost perfect consistency like I've won 9 matches in a row and all of them I'm either top fragging and top of the team or hovering between middle of the scoreboard like I'm trying my heart out here and I'm doing better than average but I'm still in this rank :c
lust Aug 18, 2019 @ 12:47am 
yikes brother.
blakesu Aug 18, 2019 @ 12:51am 
Originally posted by ✪ Ashley~:
yikes brother.

big yikes brother I'm not even talking about thinking I deserve out of silver like I just want to rank up from silver elite to silver elite master
Icey ✌ Aug 18, 2019 @ 12:59am 
Originally posted by blakesu:
Originally posted by Icey ✌:
in order to rank up you have to be as good as the people in the higher rank.

would be funny if you come back today and cry about derank. after losing 2 matches or something like that. drawing a picture makes me smile

I actually just got my nineth win lmao still no rank up
because it's not a level up system..
you can have 100 wins in row.. as long as you are not better than the people in higher rank you don't rank up
Commander Makara Aug 18, 2019 @ 1:16am 
Originally posted by blakesu:
I am playing frequently to the point of almost perfect consistency
That could explain a stable skillgroup then.

What's the problem here?



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Sice neither you, I nor any other user (aside from those at HPEnt etc.) truly know the precise criteria require,ments collated and categorised by the system under consideration of what constitutes "skill", I don't really know how you can say "near perfect consistency"
You make no mention of your teammates nor the other team members' capbilities and performance nor whether you are consistently playing with the same 4 others etc.
Easiest way to know when are you going to rank up is to look at other players in the match. I'd give an example: your rank is LE, you won't rank up until all other players in the game that you won are LEMs. The better your performance is / the higher your winrate is - the more high rank opponents you facing. Same with deranking, if you get DMGs every game you're pretty close to falling down
Last edited by Submissive and breedable; Aug 18, 2019 @ 1:19am
Commander Makara Aug 18, 2019 @ 1:20am 
Originally posted by blakesu:
Originally posted by ✪ Ashley~:
yikes brother.

big yikes brother I'm not even talking about thinking I deserve out of silver like I just want to rank up from silver elite to silver elite master

Please read. This is not "rank". You are referring to SKILL GROUP.
If you are playing consistently employing "Silver Elite" levels of skill as relative to those other players, your skill group will remain at the determination of "silver elite".

If you wish (for some reason ??? ) for the skillgroup determination to be SEM, then you need to play consistently regularly at a level of skill equivalent to SEM as relative to the other players.
blakesu Aug 18, 2019 @ 1:41am 
Originally posted by Commander Makara:
Originally posted by blakesu:

big yikes brother I'm not even talking about thinking I deserve out of silver like I just want to rank up from silver elite to silver elite master

Please read. This is not "rank". You are referring to SKILL GROUP.
If you are playing consistently employing "Silver Elite" levels of skill as relative to those other players, your skill group will remain at the determination of "silver elite".

If you wish (for some reason ??? ) for the skillgroup determination to be SEM, then you need to play consistently regularly at a level of skill equivalent to SEM as relative to the other players. [/quote
yeah bro sure lemme just skill group up
oh wait
there's a word for that
r a n k
Icey ✌ Aug 18, 2019 @ 1:45am 
Originally posted by Commander Makara:
Originally posted by blakesu:

big yikes brother I'm not even talking about thinking I deserve out of silver like I just want to rank up from silver elite to silver elite master

Please read. This is not "rank". You are referring to SKILL GROUP.
If you are playing consistently employing "Silver Elite" levels of skill as relative to those other players, your skill group will remain at the determination of "silver elite".

If you wish (for some reason ??? ) for the skillgroup determination to be SEM, then you need to play consistently regularly at a level of skill equivalent to SEM as relative to the other players.
dude... back in the old days there was no rank.. skill groups were ranks...
if someone comes here and is talking about rank he does NOT mean rank levels or whatever you wanna call them.
it is the RANK.
blakesu Aug 18, 2019 @ 1:49am 
Originally posted by blakesu:
I've either top fragged or done very well and scored points and had high kills in every match for 8 matches in a row and I haven't gotten a rank up yet? How exactly does the elo in cs:go work? Very confused and trying to improve please help

lmaooo just lost my first match due to throwers after 9 wins in a row big ♥♥♥♥♥♥ sad.
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