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desinity 2022 年 8 月 24 日 下午 4:00
cs2 remove vote kick, its so abused
it's violence against an individual by group, please valve engineers remove this option, because this doesn't make sense anymore

this happens too often, at the end of the match in last round, 4 friends playing together kick out (me) a random (fifth) player. There is no way to avoid something like this, except to depend on a friend to play with, in which case it will depend on you how much and when you can play, which makes no sense, it's no longer possible to play this game when you want to play alone with random people on random time, because you will get kicked out if you got into 4 randoms (who are all friends) lobby, 99% of the time for their fun. Penalties are minimal, and they almost never come out (cooldown in form of 30 minutes and so on, which no one ever got for kicking others (I'm talking when lobby of 4 friends kick out someone who is random, not a toxic player who makes a vote kick for everyone from for unknown reasons.)). Cs developers are asked to pay attention to this problem, and give us a solution in cs 2 (or remove vote kick option) because this is too much, it's abused and makes a person very sad, helpless and it is a huge injustice, and you can't do anything about it. to that question, you will only waste your time on match, you will be disappointed in people who have no empathy for others (how they feel afterwards), but want to harm someone for their fun, this is so horrible, so evil, such behavior is sickeningly disgusting, as if it were the devil himself. and the punishments are miserable, almost non-existent, because no one has ever gotten a cooldown in that situation.
Please cs developers to do something about this matter, even to increase fines, I believe this will continue, because there are too many players who play together and do this (maltreat an individual for their fun).
最後修改者：desinity; 2023 年 4 月 30 日 上午 7:40
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desinity 2023 年 4 月 26 日 下午 1:07 
引用自 Hogarth：
引用自 desinity：
we already have trust factor, option to report for grief/harassment in communication. also option of automatic kick due to team demage. Why do you think vote kick option is needed? I don't see any good reason, nor have I experienced that someone used it with good intentions, but only for people to kick me out because they are together and want to have fun bullying the other (powerless).
reporting for griefing does nothing to trust. If thats what they are doing and kicking people for fun they will be punished for it.

引用自 desinity：
where do you see someone got cooldown for kicking other teammates, who told you that?
All over the forums. Did you not know about the cooldown system?
i know, but i never saw someone got cooldown for votekick, also, you are so wrong, for abusing vote kick, cooldown?

I think it's too low punishment, because it happens too often, and you need to kick someone x (idk how much, like 10+) times in a row to get a cooldown, because I see same people in next matches and they are playing when I check profiles.
#46
super swede 2023 年 4 月 26 日 下午 1:08 
引用自 desinity：
引用自 Hogarth：
It doesnt matter where you are from, they are allowed to play with their friends.

They are punished with cooldowns. You probably dont see them as they are not allowed to play when on a cooldown. So what more is it you are trying to suggest anyways?

Ive explained this all already last year...
where do you see someone got cooldown for kicking other teammates, who told you that?
seen it multiple times...and yes it is a thing :steamfacepalm: also you do know that you can solve being kicked extremly easy right ? play with a friend
#47
desinity 2023 年 4 月 26 日 下午 1:09 
How many teams do you think there are 4 friends each who abuse votekick option for at least one match, on a daily basis, do you think cooldown will be assigned to one of them?
#48
󠁳Chiyoko 2023 年 4 月 26 日 下午 1:09 
引用自 desinity：
Why do you think vote kick option is needed?
To kick people who prevent their team from winning (griefing \ trolling).

引用自 desinity：
where do you see someone got cooldown for kicking other teammates, who told you that?
If you kick few players in a row you get a cooldown.
If your cooldown level is 4+, then just one kick is enough to trigger a new cooldown.

It actually works both ways (for being kicked also).
It is considered regular cooldown system, not the griefing one.
#49
Hamless Hog 2023 年 4 月 26 日 下午 1:10 
引用自 desinity：
引用自 Hogarth：
reporting for griefing does nothing to trust. If thats what they are doing and kicking people for fun they will be punished for it.


All over the forums. Did you not know about the cooldown system?
i know, but i never saw someone got cooldown for votekick, also, you are so wrong, for abusing vote kick, cooldown?

I think it's too low punishment, because it happens too often, and you need to kick someone x (idk how much, like 10+) times in a row to get a cooldown, because I see same people in next matches and they are playing when I check profiles.
You probably dont see them as they are not allowed to play... What is it im wrong about?

If you are known to abuse the rules it takes as little as one kick. Are you making up these rules as you go? What would be a more harsh cooldown?

Also you still wont mention what you suggest to punish these players.
最後修改者：Hamless Hog; 2023 年 4 月 26 日 下午 1:10
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super swede 2023 年 4 月 26 日 下午 1:11 
引用自 desinity：
How many teams do you think there are 4 friends each who abuse votekick option for at least one match, on a daily basis, do you think cooldown will be assigned to one of them?
yes since its an automatic system..and why is it so hard to find 1 friend / person to play mm with you ? i get asked daily to play cs go from my friends...so...how can it be so hard for other people
#51
desinity 2023 年 4 月 26 日 下午 1:11 
引用自 ghost marine：
引用自 desinity：
where do you see someone got cooldown for kicking other teammates, who told you that?
seen it multiple times...and yes it is a thing :steamfacepalm: also you do know that you can solve being kicked extremly easy right ? play with a friend
i don't have good pc and bcs of that i don't want to play with friends, also my trust factor is realy weird, it chaning on hour base
#52
desinity 2023 年 4 月 26 日 下午 1:12 
引用自 ghost marine：
引用自 desinity：
where do you see someone got cooldown for kicking other teammates, who told you that?
seen it multiple times...and yes it is a thing :steamfacepalm: also you do know that you can solve being kicked extremly easy right ? play with a friend
are you sure you saw, can you explain me how?
最後修改者：desinity; 2023 年 4 月 26 日 下午 1:13
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super swede 2023 年 4 月 26 日 下午 1:12 
引用自 desinity：
引用自 ghost marine：
seen it multiple times...and yes it is a thing :steamfacepalm: also you do know that you can solve being kicked extremly easy right ? play with a friend
i don't have good pc and bcs of that i don't want to play with friends, also my trust factor is realy weird, it chaning on hour base

wait...so..why are you playing mm alone if your pc aint good but not with friends !? like..what does it matter ?! playing with a friend as a team wont affect your fps...
#54
Hamless Hog 2023 年 4 月 26 日 下午 1:13 
引用自 desinity：
引用自 ghost marine：
seen it multiple times...and yes it is a thing :steamfacepalm: also you do know that you can solve being kicked extremly easy right ? play with a friend
i don't have good pc and bcs of that i don't want to play with friends, also my trust factor is realy weird, it chaning on hour base
How would you be able to tell if your trust is changing so often if you arent playing with friends?
#55
super swede 2023 年 4 月 26 日 下午 1:13 
引用自 Hogarth：
引用自 desinity：
i don't have good pc and bcs of that i don't want to play with friends, also my trust factor is realy weird, it chaning on hour base
How would you be able to tell if your trust is changing so often if you arent playing with friends?
i swear sometimes people just dosent make sense at all its like they decide to down half a bottle of vodka before coming in here
最後修改者：super swede; 2023 年 4 月 26 日 下午 1:14
#56
Hamless Hog 2023 年 4 月 26 日 下午 1:14 
引用自 desinity：
引用自 ghost marine：
seen it multiple times...and yes it is a thing :steamfacepalm: also you do know that you can solve being kicked extremly easy right ? play with a friend
are you sure you saw, can you explain me how?
I was asking you earlier if you knew about the competitive cooldowns this explains it.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=373180094
#57
desinity 2023 年 4 月 26 日 下午 1:18 
引用自 Hogarth：
引用自 desinity：
i don't have good pc and bcs of that i don't want to play with friends, also my trust factor is realy weird, it chaning on hour base
How would you be able to tell if your trust is changing so often if you arent playing with friends?
how my game works, how enemys play (mg1 like global elite etc (smurfs or idk), how many people I have to invite to match and sometimes if I play with friends, basically until when is not a message about my trust factor, after 2 matches when it appears, I continue solo or pause.
I also don't want to be a burden to friends because of bad fps and frequent drops, when I get a random team, I get either stronger players with whom I can play and not affect quality of game so much, or bad ones, with whom I lose immediately.
#58
super swede 2023 年 4 月 26 日 下午 1:20 
引用自 desinity：
引用自 Hogarth：
How would you be able to tell if your trust is changing so often if you arent playing with friends?
how my game works, how enemys play (mg1 like global elite etc (smurfs or idk), how many people I have to invite to match and sometimes if I play with friends, basically until when is not a message about my trust factor, after 2 matches when it appears, I continue solo or pause.
I also don't want to be a burden to friends because of bad fps and frequent drops, when I get a random team, I get either stronger players with whom I can play and not affect quality of game so much, or bad ones, with whom I lose immediately.
then stop complaining about getting random teams if you dont want to play with friends...like its the only solution to your current problem if you are getting kicked that often..or maybe fix your pc if it has fps issues...bruh
#59
Hamless Hog 2023 年 4 月 26 日 下午 1:20 
引用自 desinity：
引用自 Hogarth：
How would you be able to tell if your trust is changing so often if you arent playing with friends?
how my game works, how enemys play (mg1 like global elite etc (smurfs or idk), how many people I have to invite to match and sometimes if I play with friends, basically until when is not a message about my trust factor, after 2 matches when it appears, I continue solo or pause.
I also don't want to be a burden to friends because of bad fps and frequent drops, when I get a random team, I get either stronger players with whom I can play and not affect quality of game so much, or bad ones, with whom I lose immediately.
So having a bad pc doesnt stop you from playing with friends? Earlier thats what you were telling us, thats why I asked the question.
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