Game is infested with cheaters, lets just go back to cs 1.6

[Eminent Demon]

Every server including ranked is filled with cheaters, its impossible to not find one, meanwhile on 1.6 made back in 2000 has less cheaters, sad what happened to this game

[Москалі додому]

It really isn't though

[Valerie]

Pretty sure most cheats that work on CS:GO can EASILY work on cs 1.6... The only difference is there are less players playing 1.6 so therefore, less cheaters... The only people who play 1.6 are dedicated fans and most servers are also ran by active mods. Lol

[@lk@n]

The only way to not have cheaters is hardware ban!!!!

[WOKE[mindVirus]]

I have a sketchy cs1.6 that was downloaded from .ru website but i only play it on old XP pc because I don't trust the installer but legit works. I think it's an orange box crack because HF included.

[Valerie]

Originally posted by @lk@n:

The only way to not have cheaters is hardware ban!!!!

That is factually wrong in so many ways sadly. I suggest reading up on your own 'cuz hardware bans do not stop cheaters, and can easily bypassed. HWID spoofers exist.

[Москалі додому]

Originally posted by Valerie:

Originally posted by @lk@n:

The only way to not have cheaters is hardware ban!!!!

That is factually wrong in so many ways. I suggest reading up on your own 'cuz hardware bans do not stop cheaters, and can easily bypassed. HWID spoofers exist.

Maybe they did read on their own and they found this false info

[Valerie]

Originally posted by Allah Yunandır:

Originally posted by Valerie:

That is factually wrong in so many ways. I suggest reading up on your own 'cuz hardware bans do not stop cheaters, and can easily bypassed. HWID spoofers exist.

Maybe they did read on their own and they found this false info

Sadly it's spread around by a lot of people who don't fully understand. They hear something that sounds like a no brainer on paper, but fail to realize it's not that easy.

If that were the case, EVERY SINGLE GAME, would be doing hardware bans and cheaters would be no more...

[Москалі додому]

Originally posted by Valerie:

Originally posted by Allah Yunandır:

Maybe they did read on their own and they found this false info

Sadly it's spread around by a lot of people who don't fully understand. They hear something that sounds like a no brainer on paper, but fail to realize it's not that easy.

If that were the case, EVERY SINGLE GAME, would be doing hardware bans and cheaters would be no more...

Yes but it would also force hackers to make their hacks even more evasive, which would intensify the ongoing battle.. I think this battle is unwinnable and you'll always have cheaters. The thing is that sometimes they will be ahead, and then the anti-cheaters.

At least anti-cheat engine developers will not run out of work

[ʚ alex ɞ]

Originally posted by Allah Yunandır:

Originally posted by Valerie:

Sadly it's spread around by a lot of people who don't fully understand. They hear something that sounds like a no brainer on paper, but fail to realize it's not that easy.

If that were the case, EVERY SINGLE GAME, would be doing hardware bans and cheaters would be no more...

Yes but it would also force hackers to make their hacks even more evasive, which would intensify the ongoing battle.. I think this battle is unwinnable and you'll always have cheaters. The thing is that sometimes they will be ahead, and then the anti-cheaters.

At least anti-cheat engine developers will not run out of work

hwid spoofers arent very invasive and extremely simple in concept, oftentimes it takes nothing more than just changing serial number of your hard drive(s). hwid bans are useless in terms of stopping cheaters and would only hurt people who for example play in internet cafe's or share their computer with various people

[ʚ alex ɞ]

Originally posted by Valerie:

Pretty sure most cheats that work on CS:GO can EASILY work on cs 1.6... The only difference is there are less players playing 1.6 so therefore, less cheaters... The only people who play 1.6 are dedicated fans and most servers are also ran by active mods. Lol

not entirely the case, as csgo runs on a modified version of source, while 1.6 uses goldsrc. i assume the engines are similiar, but it would be a lot more work porting a csgo cheat to 1.6 and vice versa compared to doing the same with css or l4d2 etc.

[KPB™]

Originally posted by @lk@n:

The only way to not have cheaters is hardware ban!!!!

never goign to happen. too easy to just sell a graphic card and the new owner get vac because VAC detect this card being used somewhere else for instance. Intrusive antio cheat is the way to go. Its not perfect but far better then anything valve did in all cs history.

[Valerie]

Originally posted by Zurah':

Originally posted by Valerie:

Pretty sure most cheats that work on CS:GO can EASILY work on cs 1.6... The only difference is there are less players playing 1.6 so therefore, less cheaters... The only people who play 1.6 are dedicated fans and most servers are also ran by active mods. Lol

not entirely the case, as csgo runs on a modified version of source, while 1.6 uses goldsrc. i assume the engines are similiar, but it would be a lot more work porting a csgo cheat to 1.6 and vice versa compared to doing the same with css or l4d2 etc.

I guess I don't have extensive knowledge of the more complex side of things, but some cheaters I met/seen throughout forums did say that it's just as easy to cheat 1.6 as it is CS:GO. So I just went off their word.

[ʚ alex ɞ]

Originally posted by ✪ ScarÐera:

Originally posted by @lk@n:

The only way to not have cheaters is hardware ban!!!!

never goign to happen. too easy to just sell a graphic card and the new owner get vac because VAC detect this card being used somewhere else for instance. Intrusive antio cheat is the way to go. Its not perfect but far better then anything valve did in all cs history.

thats not how hwid bans work, at least not specifically like this, as your hwid is comprised of much more than just 1 piece of hardware in most cases.

an intrusive anticheat isnt even necessary, for what it is, vac is actually pretty good. the major problem with it is that its been fully understood (with large parts of it being fully reverse engineered by now), which makes it useless since cheat developers can use public information available to bypass every of vac's checks and make sure their cheat stays undetected. an intrusive anticheat, if implemented badly, is easier to bypass than a non-intrusive anticheat, the issue is simply that valve gave up on vac long time ago, ever since they realized that the cheating community knows too much about it

thats why they nowadays focus on vacnet and trust factor entirely, which is working to some extend, though a bit abusable and not good for new players on fresh accounts

[ʚ alex ɞ]

Originally posted by Valerie:

Originally posted by Zurah':

not entirely the case, as csgo runs on a modified version of source, while 1.6 uses goldsrc. i assume the engines are similiar, but it would be a lot more work porting a csgo cheat to 1.6 and vice versa compared to doing the same with css or l4d2 etc.

I guess I don't have extensive knowledge of the more complex side of things, but some cheaters I met/seen throughout forums did say that it's just as easy to cheat 1.6 as it is CS:GO. So I just went off their word.

of course its simple to cheat in 1.6, as the game always had a large cheating scene aswell, and with it being over 20 years now now, cheaters had a lot of time to reverse the game and find any exploit / abusable thing in it. it also uses vac aswell, which is notoriously easy to bypass for any competent developer, not making the issue any smaller

[temper]

Originally posted by Zurah':

Originally posted by Valerie:

I guess I don't have extensive knowledge of the more complex side of things, but some cheaters I met/seen throughout forums did say that it's just as easy to cheat 1.6 as it is CS:GO. So I just went off their word.

as the game always had a large cheating scene aswell,

Lol, no. The "scene" back then was non-existent.