smurf vs cheaters

[Shaaf]

which one is worse for the game? cheaters are very annoying but if you know theyre cheating you cant really let yourself get too mad about it. whereas for smurfs theyre going out of their way to focus on lower ranked people and harm the newer players? while it may not be their main intention, they are directly doing so. id say smurfs are worse than cheaters, any other opinions?

[Shaaf]

Hogarth の投稿を引用：

Shaaf の投稿を引用：

aiming is no where near everything, that is why smurfing isnt 100% winrate. but that is all smurfs do. go watch a pro pubstomp or play mm, tenz is the PERFECT example. he recently started playing mm on a brand new account, go watch his matches and show me where hes teaching people how to play, hes going for noscopes, zeuses, knives, and just outaiming everyone. there is no argument here lol. smurfs play off aim, they dont play off gamesense or show efficient nade usage. you will NOT learn any form of aim from watching someone play. you literally are wrong here, im giving you examples to back up my points. OMEGALUL "you learn from them playing bad angles. you are wrong here.

youre just contradicting yourself. you still havent explained why people wouldnt be able to learn.

re read what i originally said, i explained you clearly arent reading. ill tldr it again, smurfs are not playing to teach, they arent playing proper angles nor are using proper nades. all they are doing is playing stupid and falling back on aim. you can NOT learn aim from watching people play. there is nothing being taught by smurfs. examples: any pro playing low tier mm including tenz who recently made a new account and literally backs up every point ive made.

[Shaaf]

Psychosocial の投稿を引用：

I smurf and it's the best thing ever.

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[Shaaf]

crystal の投稿を引用：

fake smufling. I thought all cheaters

prolly

[Shaaf]

masbo の投稿を引用：

dont smurf play scrimage with newbs if u wanna play with them simple dont go into mm to play low ranks might as well aimbots

exactly, that way if people are smurfing theyre doing it just to boost their ego

[Hamless Hog]

Shaaf の投稿を引用：

Hogarth の投稿を引用：

youre just contradicting yourself. you still havent explained why people wouldnt be able to learn.

re read what i originally said, i explained you clearly arent reading. ill tldr it again, smurfs are not playing to teach, they arent playing proper angles nor are using proper nades. all they are doing is playing stupid and falling back on aim. you can NOT learn aim from watching people play. there is nothing being taught by smurfs. examples: any pro playing low tier mm including tenz who recently made a new account and literally backs up every point ive made.

You aren’t reading those reasons are exactly why they have room to learn.

[stun]

Shaaf の投稿を引用：

Hogarth の投稿を引用：

youre just contradicting yourself. you still havent explained why people wouldnt be able to learn.

re read what i originally said, i explained you clearly arent reading. ill tldr it again, smurfs are not playing to teach, they arent playing proper angles nor are using proper nades. all they are doing is playing stupid and falling back on aim. you can NOT learn aim from watching people play. there is nothing being taught by smurfs. examples: any pro playing low tier mm including tenz who recently made a new account and literally backs up every point ive made.

I mean, you still would learn how not to play. Which is still learning.

[stun]

MoNtaaR の投稿を引用：

both are wery bad i always when want to play competitive theres always on of these ON OTHER TEAM NOT ON MY ONE and i always end having a cooldown.

I have never read such nonsense before.

[Σ-LiTisT-22]

Shaaf の投稿を引用：

which one is worse for the game? cheaters are very annoying but if you know theyre cheating you cant really let yourself get too mad about it. whereas for smurfs theyre going out of their way to focus on lower ranked people and harm the newer players? while it may not be their main intention, they are directly doing so. id say smurfs are worse than cheaters, any other opinions?

Cheaters are way worse. A smurf actually has some skills but a cheater is just cheating.

[Шваба]

Smurfs worse for me, well were i finally got out of Nova/silver.

A cheater will get banned, giving me my ELO back, but a smurf wont, and he will still ruin the game. Make smurfing bannable 2020

[JC Denton]

Church の投稿を引用：

Smurfs worse for me, well were i finally got out of Nova/silver.

A cheater will get banned, giving me my ELO back, but a smurf wont, and he will still ruin the game. Make smurfing bannable 2020 :tobdog:

are you litterly that dumb ? that you think that someone who is better then you should be banned.....jesus christ todays players are such snowflakes its disgusting.....if you played cs 1.6 or before and meet someone better then you you did not tell someone to ban them they where better then you in a skillbased game....

its called skillbased for a freaking reason "facepalm" but i guess if killahinstinct keeps telling people "smurfing" should be bannable this is what we get inthe forum a bunch of butthurt manchilds that cry about people being better then them demanding them to be banned....

if you want to be good at a game you have to train and spend your time learning the freaking croshair placemeants,smokes,nade spots,common spots where lurkers are and what good bomb placements are

i know i should point fingers but come on people get your sticks out of your butts and accept that people can be better then you and not be "smurfs" but you rather blame them then your own lack of game experience

yes its a rant but cmon.....someone has to bring you down to earth and off your high horses some time

[Шваба]

big Lo wang "in your wife" の投稿を引用：

Church の投稿を引用：

Smurfs worse for me, well were i finally got out of Nova/silver.

A cheater will get banned, giving me my ELO back, but a smurf wont, and he will still ruin the game. Make smurfing bannable 2020

are you litterly that dumb ? that you think that someone who is better then you should be banned.....jesus christ todays players are such snowflakes its disgusting.....if you played cs 1.6 or before and meet someone better then you you did not tell someone to ban them they where better then you in a skillbased game....

its called skillbased for a freaking reason "facepalm" but i guess if killahinstinct keeps telling people "smurfing" should be bannable this is what we get inthe forum a bunch of butthurt manchilds that cry about people being better then them demanding them to be banned....

if you want to be good at a game you have to train and spend your time learning the freaking croshair placemeants,smokes,nade spots,common spots where lurkers are and what good bomb placements are

i know i should point fingers but come on people get your sticks out of your butts and accept that people can be better then you and not be "smurfs" but you rather blame them then your own lack of game experience

yes its a rant but cmon.....someone has to bring you down to earth and off your high horses some time

What? Your comments riddled with hipocricy. Yea no ♥♥♥♥ 1.6 was worse, but were not playing 1.6 anymore, are we? And were not in 2006 anymore. "Someone who is better than you" Oh so you want globals to just roam Silver? Get 50 kills a
game and then proceed to be toxic?

Theres nothihg skill based about someone higher rank drppping ranks and playing againts noobies. Its damaging the game.
Its more disguisting how you support this kind of stuff. I guess you just want this game to die dont you?

And its pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ obvious whos smurfing and whos silver...

How is someone that keeps getting matched againts people that played this game for years and keeps getting dropped supposed to learn. There are many games these days and many other reasons to play them. So why suffer in CS when you can go play [insert title] and have a blast?

I guess im dumb but seems like youre dumber

[mor7im3r]

Smurfs are annoying but at least they're not big enough losers to use software assist to play the game.
You have to be a REAL loser to use hacks and cheats.
If you're smurfing, you're just a bit of an a-hole. Still should be banned temporarily, though.

[Шваба]

mor7im3r の投稿を引用：

Smurfs are annoying but at least they're not big enough losers to use software assist to play the game.
You have to be a REAL loser to use hacks and cheats.
If you're smurfing, you're just a bit of an a-hole. Still should be banned temporarily, though.

Yea, i guess perma banning is too much. +1 on tempban

[Shaaf]

Hogarth の投稿を引用：

Shaaf の投稿を引用：

re read what i originally said, i explained you clearly arent reading. ill tldr it again, smurfs are not playing to teach, they arent playing proper angles nor are using proper nades. all they are doing is playing stupid and falling back on aim. you can NOT learn aim from watching people play. there is nothing being taught by smurfs. examples: any pro playing low tier mm including tenz who recently made a new account and literally backs up every point ive made.

You aren’t reading those reasons are exactly why they have room to learn.

because you're either not giving them or theyre garbage

[Shaaf]

stun. の投稿を引用：

Shaaf の投稿を引用：

re read what i originally said, i explained you clearly arent reading. ill tldr it again, smurfs are not playing to teach, they arent playing proper angles nor are using proper nades. all they are doing is playing stupid and falling back on aim. you can NOT learn aim from watching people play. there is nothing being taught by smurfs. examples: any pro playing low tier mm including tenz who recently made a new account and literally backs up every point ive made.

I mean, you still would learn how not to play. Which is still learning.

no lol, and if you would learn you'd learn the wrong way, which isnt learning, its harming