just tried playing 1.6 again and can't even walk properly

[insparkennnCS.ARMY]

even the weapons are weird, used to one tap guys with ak, now can't even kill bot with it, plus you can't even control spread or whatever since it feels like random

[PatchAdams]

It is somewhat random. It was also semi-random in Source. Having to learn set recoil spray patterns is specific to CSGO, within the series.

Few shooters use such elaborate weapon-specific set recoil patterns, TBH, which is part of why CSGO has a big learning curve.

[Hamsterpeek]

Originally posted by PatchAdams:

It is somewhat random. It was also semi-random in Source. Having to learn set recoil spray patterns is specific to CSGO, within the series.

Few shooters use such elaborate weapon-specific set recoil patterns, TBH, which is part of why CSGO has a big learning curve.

CS1.6 also had fixed Spraypattern. The difference was that it wasn't just one, but multiple and yes, it was random which one you got when spraying.

Still, many people including me could spray better in CS1.6. A a long m4 spraydown was common, in CSGO this would be the highlight of the year.

Sometimes I start CS1.6 aswell and while I don't have problems with movement etc. I do have them with the weapon mechanics. It does feel completely different and.. I mean it is.

That's why I also only play one shooter/cs becauae I like to be good at the game and playing different shooter makes you worse. In CS1.6 I bhop, kreetz and surf sometimes, so not really shooter related.

[Freekill]

Originally posted by PatchAdams:

It is somewhat random. It was also semi-random in Source. Having to learn set recoil spray patterns is specific to CSGO, within the series.

Few shooters use such elaborate weapon-specific set recoil patterns, TBH, which is part of why CSGO has a big learning curve.

Agree, CSGO is quite hard to master.

One thing that I personally dislike is how often I see people copying stuff they see on youtube like recoil patterns and smoke tricks, while it's really cool to see some in-depth tactics, I really dislike that many inexperienced players can SSG headshot on dust2 double doors only looking at the clock.

Although, skill comes into play into countering those tactics, that much I believe.

Just my 2 cents, I feel mostly that the problem is me tbh, I really dislike the static recoil patterns on shotguns.

[Hamsterpeek]

Originally posted by Freekill:

Originally posted by PatchAdams:

It is somewhat random. It was also semi-random in Source. Having to learn set recoil spray patterns is specific to CSGO, within the series.

Few shooters use such elaborate weapon-specific set recoil patterns, TBH, which is part of why CSGO has a big learning curve.

I really dislike that many inexperienced players can SSG headshot on dust2 double doors only looking at the clock.

But that's skill aswell? One of billion things to look after.

And you as a player who get headshotted need skill to understand what they're doing and delay your jumpthrough.

[Chiyoko]

I like CS 1.6 more than CSGO, but recoil in 1.6 now is uncontrollable for me, i can't hit anyone with spraying. Only one-taps and bursts; deagle, scout and AWP.
Also i love CS 1.6 because there is no such thing like a lagcompensation or whatever is that which annoying me in CSGO.
But still CS 1.6 is a very nice game to relax with friends.

[Freekill]

Originally posted by Hamsterpeek:

Originally posted by Freekill:

I really dislike that many inexperienced players can SSG headshot on dust2 double doors only looking at the clock.

But that's skill aswell? One of billion things to look after.

And you as a player who get headshotted need skill to understand what they're doing and delay your jumpthrough.

Agree with you, that is also a very basic skill, also countering these tactics is considered skill as well, as I said.

Is just that I don't feel the learning process with the game doesn't come with the game, but as I also said, the problem is with me, I really liked the semi-random spreads and the adapt on the fly approach, is just that it isn't feeling good for me.

[aK]

yep, it's not as easy and pathetic as csgo.

[goodBye]

csgo logic:

aim for the chest, get headshots.
aim for the head, get chest shots.

This game rewards random bullsh... rather than skill.

Over 14k kills and 63% are headshots.
I can tell you... f csgo, lol.
Only play this game for the weekly drops

[goodBye]

Originally posted by Hamsterpeek:

Originally posted by RockaBye:

csgo logic:

aim for the chest, get headshots.
aim for the head, get chest shots.

This game rewards random bullsh... rather than skill.

Over 14k kills and 63% are headshots.
I can tell you... f csgo, lol.
Only play this game for the weekly drops

You don't play on third party websites and have no match uploaded on csgostats gg so about what stats are you talking?

Also beside spread there isn't rng in terms of spray.

you must be on crack...

https://csgo-stats.com/player/lostcawz

Kills: 16,875
Headshot %: 63.8%
K/D Ratio: 1.25

[Wehzy]

I just tried some MM after playing 2 years on 128 tick... my god my eyes.

[goodBye]

Originally posted by Hamsterpeek:

Originally posted by RockaBye:

you must be on crack...

https://csgo-stats.com/player/lostcawz

Kills: 16,875
Headshot %: 63.8%
K/D Ratio: 1.25

This trash site records frags from every game mode, even when you play offline against bots and it gets false numbers everywhere. The only thing it doesn't record are some most played competitive maps (in any gamemode) because it's so trash.

So you were just bragging about stats you didn't get, didn't invest time into researching it, didn't notice the obvious or ignored it just to have a point and call people out for beeing on "crack" who know more than you.

Maybe start your competitive career and upload your games on a official site (csgostats.gg) before talking about those stats.

I think someone envies me

It doesn't matter how many new accounts you make,
you'll never reach 16k kills with an average of 60% headshots.
"Bots" or not..

[goodBye]

Originally posted by Hamsterpeek:

This again shows your lack of basic knowledge of steam. You don't know when csgo has weekly reset and you don't know that private/friends only profiles are only shown as level 0. You proved three times in a row your lack of basic knowledge and keep beeing a provoking person with dunning kruger effect. It's mind blowing how some people in this forum behave and that they always try to win an argument and dig deeper into their hole showing that they've no idea what they're talking about.

Fair enough.
I would hate to leak my personal information of which video games i play too.
if anybody found that out.. things would be disastrous.


you never really told me which pro team you are with tho?

[goodBye]

Originally posted by Hamsterpeek:

Originally posted by RockaBye:

you never really told me which pro team you are with tho?

History
Counter-Strike: 1.6
2001 - 2003esports.zexX
2003 - 2004my.e0n
2005team.bionic
2005 - 2006QPool
2006LanFan
2006 - 2007p3-Gaming e.V.
2007planet-videos
2007 - 2008EnRo-GRIFFINS
2008 - 2009novella
2012 - 2015hardplay

Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
2017 - Presenthardplay

That is a lot of 1.6.
Unfortunately, i don't know anything about those teams.. Cal-i? Pro?

BUT.. i'll tell ya, i miss the good ol KZ and bhop maps without these air acceleration and bhop scripts enabled.

[Hamsterpeek]

Originally posted by RockaBye:

That is a lot of 1.6.
Unfortunately, i don't know anything about those teams.. Cal-i? Pro?

BUT.. i'll tell ya, i miss the good ol KZ and bhop maps without these air acceleration and bhop scripts enabled.

Yeah back then it was quite common to change teams after each season. Those teams are mainly known in EU, especially germany. esports.zexX was my own LAN clan we won price money of few hundred euro, my.e0n was a no WON 1.5 team when steam/cs1.6 was released and we were rank 1, team.bionic was a EAS 1. division team, QPool EPS team, p3-Gaming e.V. 1. division EAS, planet-videos a community team from said website consisting pros from multiple teams, EnRo-Griffins was EPS relegation and afaik currently still plays semi professional ( https://www.99damage.de/teams/1379-enro-griffins ), novella was also a collection of multiple pros and we played non professional leagues and were rank 1 everywhere and hardplay is my esports.zexX team under another name, that team basically always existed and I was more a coach in that team and build up talents, they also played EPS Relegation and since 2012 it's a big community of friends (including some ex pros and other nice people well fitting into it).

So yeah. A lot of stuff happened that time. Played CS1.6 and previous versions til 2015 ~22.000 hours (hard to measure because steam counts hours only since 2008 and I just calculated it further based on hours since then) and to come up to the topic again: Whenever I start CS1.6 again I also feel weird, mainly because of the shooting mechanics. I don't even bother trying to get used to it again because that would mean I'd get worse in CSGO. Some of my friends still play 1.6 and ask me from time to time to play with them but I have to decline lol.

Originally posted by RockaBye:

BUT.. i'll tell ya, i miss the good ol KZ and bhop maps without these air acceleration and bhop scripts enabled.

I agree. I don't like all these mods etc. and I also don't like complicated kz/bhop/surf maps. That's why I play them in CS1.6 more often than CSGO because in CSGO everything has to look cool etc. - to be fair the map creator do a great job it's just not what I'm looking for.

[goodBye]

Originally posted by Hamsterpeek:

Yeah back then it was quite common to change teams after each season. Those teams are mainly known in EU, especially germany. esports.zexX was my own LAN clan we won price money of few hundred euro, my.e0n was a no WON 1.5 team when steam/cs1.6 was released and we were rank 1, team.bionic was a EAS 1. division team, QPool EPS team, p3-Gaming e.V. 1. division EAS, planet-videos a community team from said website consisting pros from multiple teams, EnRo-Griffins was EPS relegation and afaik currently still plays semi professional ( https://www.99damage.de/teams/1379-enro-griffins ), novella was also a collection of multiple pros and we played non professional leagues and were rank 1 everywhere and hardplay is my esports.zexX team under another name, that team basically always existed and I was more a coach in that team and build up talents, they also played EPS Relegation and since 2012 it's a big community of friends (including some ex pros and other nice people well fitting into it).

So yeah. A lot of stuff happened that time. Played CS1.6 and previous versions til 2015 ~22.000 hours (hard to measure because steam counts hours only since 2008 and I just calculated it further based on hours since then) and to come up to the topic again: Whenever I start CS1.6 again I also feel weird, mainly because of the shooting mechanics. I don't even bother trying to get used to it again because that would mean I'd get worse in CSGO. Some of my friends still play 1.6 and ask me from time to time to play with them but I have to decline lol.

sounds like quite the achievements.
i'm kinda jealous i never found a serious team for 1.6.
mainly just within friends / scrimmage

i knew more of clubs (mt,st,dt,db) than i did pro teams. and those mIRC days... (rip)

Originally posted by Hamsterpeek:

I agree. I don't like all these mods etc. and I also don't like complicated kz/bhop/surf maps. That's why I play them in CS1.6 more often than CSGO because in CSGO everything has to look cool etc. - to be fair the map creator do a great job it's just not what I'm looking for.

exactly!!
sad times