Valve is dividing the CSGO community

[🐶Agent BarkBark🐶]

Valve is dividing the CSGO community. There are too many options causing unfair games and long queues.

Players are divided too much.

Non prime
Prime
Broken Fang
Wingman non prime
Wingman prime
Retakes
Scrimmage
Casual
DM
Community Servers
ESEA
Faceit Free
Faceit Premium
Faceit Mythic

[Howly 👑]

True

[Last night I dreamt of SanPedro]

Lol no

[Valerie]

Oh boy. I wonder how this player base of 1 MILLION players online (currently) will ever survive... Also, Valve has nothing to do with ESEA/Faceit at all.

[Valerie]

Originally posted by Prodical:

Originally posted by Valerie:

Oh boy. I wonder how this player base of 1 MILLION players online (currently) will ever survive... Also, Valve has nothing to do with ESEA/Faceit at all.

yes they do, if their anticheat was up to scratch people wouldnt needed to jump to esea and faceit to begin with

No, they don't. They're called third party services for a reason. They're not associated with Valve.

[Valerie]

Originally posted by Prodical:

Originally posted by Valerie:

No, they don't. They're called third party services for a reason. They're not associated with Valve.

and if valve hadnt let the cheater problem become what it was, people wouldnt have jumped ship to 3rd party services with a real anticheat to begin with

Originally posted by Valerie:

Oh boy. I wonder how this player base of 1 MILLION players online (currently) will ever survive...

Also, again. That's not what I said. OP said Valve is giving people too many options. Implying that Faceit/ESEA are all their platforms. Which, again, they are not.

[Valerie]

Originally posted by Prodical:

Originally posted by Valerie:

you said valve have nothing to do with esea and faceit, they do, if valve werent slack, faceit and esea wouldnt have started or even exist, thats what 3rd party exist for a cheaper or sometimes better alternative because the original is poor either for the money or at doing its job

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but third party platforms exist on practically every game. Ever since the era of gamebattles for PS3 CoD 4 era. Again, OP is implying they're under Valve's corporation. I said they're not.

[Nelly]

So... adding more gamemodes is something bad now?

[Valerie]

Originally posted by Prodical:

Originally posted by Valerie:

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but third party platforms exist on practically every games. Ever since the era of gamebattles for PS3. Again, OP is implying they're under Valve's corporation. I said they're not.

no hes implying valve is creating issues amongst the community

a lack of a decent anticheat is causing users to jump ship to esea/faceit

so he is in fact correct

If you want to believe that, I guess. Like I said though, third party competitive platforms didn't just magically show up 'cuz of Valve, but that's besides the overall point I was making.

However I have no problem finding games unless it's late at night. I can wait 40 minutes for games in Valorant, but get instant ques for CS. Like I said, this game currently has over 1 million players online right now. It's not like all these choices are killing the game.

[zax]

This is what is happening when cs go gets updates and new game modes is normal man what do you expected ?

[🐶Agent BarkBark🐶]

Match making seems like a money making scam for selling new prime accounts to cheaters and valve is making royalties off ESEA and Faceit subscriptions from serious players.

It is obviously a problem every 10 reddit posts are people complaining about silvers ranked against MGs and others complaining about long queue times.

The player base is broke up.

[🐶Agent BarkBark🐶]

Originally posted by Valerie:

Oh boy. I wonder how this player base of 1 MILLION players online (currently) will ever survive... Also, Valve has nothing to do with ESEA/Faceit at all.

Valve forced Faceit into doing something so they are obviously connected

https://dotesports.com/counter-strike/news/valve-reportedly-forcing-faceit-to-allow-new-csgo-player-models

[🐶Agent BarkBark🐶]

Also at one of the international Dota event Gaben addressed the crowd. At the CSGO event he ran a Faceit ad...

[KokkoJustus]

Originally posted by Prodical:

Originally posted by Valerie:

you said valve have nothing to do with esea and faceit, they do, if valve werent slack, faceit and esea wouldnt have started or even exist,

Esea was founded in 2003 and faceit in 2011.

So they were around even before csgo was released

[Valerie]

Originally posted by Meurkinat0r:

Originally posted by Valerie:

Oh boy. I wonder how this player base of 1 MILLION players online (currently) will ever survive... Also, Valve has nothing to do with ESEA/Faceit at all.

Valve forced Faceit into doing something so they are obviously connected

https://dotesports.com/counter-strike/news/valve-reportedly-forcing-faceit-to-allow-new-csgo-player-models

Interesting, but they also FORCED some sites to shut down when they don't comply. So I wouldn't say they're 100% with them. Also as for the faceit ads, they pay for those. I see ads for 3rd party skin sites as well on twitch streams. Doesn't really mean Valve is with them.

[Tinerci Papaan]

Originally posted by Prodical:

Originally posted by Valerie:

Oh boy. I wonder how this player base of 1 MILLION players online (currently) will ever survive... Also, Valve has nothing to do with ESEA/Faceit at all.

yes they do, if their anticheat was up to scratch people wouldnt needed to jump to esea and faceit to begin with

anticheat isnt the main reason people play on faceit or esea, its the competitivity
pro players arent expected to play with normal random people, no matter how much ranks they add or how hard they make the promoting
they pretty much need a league on their own so get your facts together
and im pretty sure most of the people who play faceit play because of competitivity rather than anticheat