How do I stop a P90 B rush?

[Xayah]

I am the solo B defender for Mirage and Dust 2 and I am suffering tremendously from P90 rushes.

Essentially I eat like 6-7 flashes, either completely or half blind, and got sprayed down. I sometimes get 1-2 kills with my m4a1-s and utility, but usually I get 0 kills.

They strafe hard left and right and just hold down W and MOUSE1. And there's 5 of them. I land body shots on 3-4 of them for 27-52 if I am lucky but I can't get headshot fast enough before I get sprayed down.

I have 200 hours in aimbotz and 1000 hours of gameplay (300 hours of demo watching and utility practices since I am IGL), and I am struggling to play against these silver rush plays.

NOTE: My team usually comes in with M4 and AWP and mop up everyone on the retake, but I usually excel against AK B site executes, yet I can't fend off P90s?

[cucub1rd]

Use utility

[cucub1rd]

And how can u not get headshots?Dont you practice sprays?

[Xayah]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von 💥E1S1💥|cs.money|loot.farm:

Always molo the entry first, if you can hear steps make a call for your team, otherwise take the time they cant rush through the molo to get a good position.

they can smoke the molly and triple flash through. I can do damage but I can't stop the rush unless i literally gets the ace

[Xayah]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von cucub1rd:

Use utility

a lot of times, by the time I switch to my nade, I am already dead. They smoke my molly and run through my nades

[💥E1S1💥]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Haibara:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von 💥E1S1💥|cs.money|loot.farm:

Always molo the entry first, if you can hear steps make a call for your team, otherwise take the time they cant rush through the molo to get a good position.

they can smoke the molly and triple flash through. I can do damage but I can't stop the rush unless i literally gets the ace

When they rush through a smoke its ez just hold down left mouse and spray all down....

[Дэвид Блейн]

nice

[Shiro♌]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von love:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Shiro♌梓怜奈:

If you're alone, you shall use M4A4, both, due to its higher fire rate, as well as bigger magazines.
Forget about throwing grenades - By the time you switch, you're already dead.
Do focus on taking most of them out, and if you see, you can't deal with them at once, do re-position yourself.
If even that is impossible, do your bests to, either hold them off for as long as you can, or deal as much damage as you can.

Do not do this. Pre molly or pre smoke and play different positions every time. Preferably far away like window on dust 2 B or Arch on mirage B. Also, if you're getting constantly rush you should force 2 B instead of solo holding.

OP has described, that fire doesn't work, as they just smoke it off, or rush through it.
OP has also mentioned, he has no time to throw grenades.

Positions are irrelevant, as OP would have to be way more precise and mention even other stuff. At the current moment, positions are only speculative, as OP didn't even provide, through where the Terrorists have started to rush to the site, which, by me, defines, where you shall be positioned.

So, why do you think, I'm mistaken? I'd like to know, where do you believe, I've made a mistake, as I strongly believe, I've covered all of the possible case scenarios; If escaping is impossible, to hold them off is probably the best thing to do. Or, to spread damage.
Naturally, dependable on the weapons the Terrorists do have - For example, for AWP, reducing hit points won't do as much as it'd do to enemy with an automatic or semi-automatic rifle, due to the possibilities of missing heads, allowing your team mates an opportunity to take some damage, while taking out an enemy.

[X]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Shiro♌梓怜奈:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von love:

Do not do this. Pre molly or pre smoke and play different positions every time. Preferably far away like window on dust 2 B or Arch on mirage B. Also, if you're getting constantly rush you should force 2 B instead of solo holding.

OP has described, that fire doesn't work, as they just smoke it off, or rush through it.
OP has also mentioned, he has no time to throw grenades.

Positions are irrelevant, as OP would have to be way more precise and mention even other stuff. At the current moment, positions are only speculative, as OP didn't even provide, through where the Terrorists have started to rush to the site, which, by me, defines, where you shall be positioned.

So, why do you think, I'm mistaken? I'd like to know, where do you believe, I've made a mistake, as I strongly believe, I've covered all of the possible case scenarios; If escaping is impossible, to hold them off is probably the best thing to do. Or, to spread damage.
Naturally, dependable on the weapons the Terrorists do have - For example, for AWP, reducing hit points won't do as much as it'd do to enemy with an automatic or semi-automatic rifle, due to the possibilities of missing heads, allowing your team mates an opportunity to take some damage, while taking out an enemy.

So you'd rather have 5 people running out with full visual instead of them running blindly through a smoke?

He doesn't have time to throw nades hence why I said "pre" meaning he should be mollying if he feels the slightest bit of threat or early in the round on arrival to the bombsite.

Positions on Dust 2 B site and mirage B site have the most narrow hallways for the T side players to exit, and a million angles they have to clear as they are executing. If he plays different positions everytime obviously it'd make it harder for them as they have to clear every angle. It doesn't matter what position he precisely states. He plays B sites on both maps so its safe to assume if hes getting full rushed on B and not being able to get even one kill hes playing it wrong.

As a B site player you should mostly (if not always) be an anchor and the job of an anchor is to hold the bombsite and delay as much as possible for their teammates to rotate.

So where are you mistaken? Nades in counter strike are one of the biggest threats when executing or holding so it'd be stupid to tell someone to not use nades especially for a site thats held soley through the use of nades.

[♿Mr. Alien♿]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Mr. Alien:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Haibara:

I usually my smoke or a molly, and maybe a flash sometimes against AK executes and usually will get 1 or 2 (with utility advantages) before I go down. But this is so ineffective against SMG full rush (they smoke my molly and run through nades). Against, they are very vulnerable against retakes since their hp is slow but its just embarrassing to me that I always get run over.

Also, a lot of times, by the time you switch, I am already dead. They literally just kamikaze themselves.

That is literally the point of a rush lol. To get control of a site quickly and spread damage across teammates so that the rush doesn't fail and players get picked off one by one.

The best thing you could do is to counter flash, with all their movements try to drop a sneaky one in their path just don't throw it making a big clack sound for them to hear and avoid.

To effectively weaken a rush, you must focus on killing targets first then switching to other enemies instead of keeping the "I must kill everyone" mindset. That won't work and you will give them a better chance to keep that site. Focus on reducing their numbers.

If you know when a rush is about to occur, get some guts and peek them before they gain too much momentum. Surprising them can at least give you a kill before you die. That way it also gives your team good info much earlier as well.

Also get cover, standing out in the open is a death sentence atleast have your body covered. In Dust 2, there are plenty of boxes to cover you. In Mirage, not much but you'll have to keep changing positions if you want to live.

Have you tried out this strategy yet?

[Hamsterpeek]

Playing B ankor on some maps like mirage/d2 never is easy since you've nothing to do in at least 14 out of 15 rounds but then there is the one round where you have to be fully away and react perfectly when the rush comes and most of the time you get caught off guard and die while getting timed.

That is why you need constant routines you use. Usually you throw a molly early in b apps on mirage / tunnel on d2. On mirage you jumppeek or when they're rushing fast you fall back somewhere between market and bombspot. On d2 you peek from plateau or from bombspot.

On both maps it's quite common to smoke yourself so you can play with the new gained angle. Surviving is the most important part. So call the rush, smoke yourself off, flash the enemies and play as much time as possible. The first rotation of the short (mirage) and mid (d2) player should be very fast, within 5 seconds. That is enough most of the time to have a good fighting chance and get 2-3 kills which is enough most of the time for your other 3 teammates to retake.

Also keep in mind that b ankor player most of the time are the most patient, yet weakest player of the team. A b ankor player will never carry. And when you do have a carry in your team (or even a star player) then it's quite common that this carry/starplayer will tell you in 2-3 rounds out of 15 that he will go B and makes a play while you can play his position but less aggressive. With that you also get more aware for the further rounds since "you saw something else". So when an awper or other good player tells you that he wanna make a play on your position let him do it.

In my team for example I'm the one playing the positions I need to get as much out of our team as possible. Beeing aggressive on the same spots over and over again doesn't work so you need other spaces. I usually play mid on mirage, but also jump towards short or underpass quite often. But I also go into palace or apps when the spawn is right and I've the feeling that it's the best timing for it. It gives us an entry in most cases.

[dava]

Say no more, meet, NEGEV! After 30 bullers it bcomes the best weapon and you can kill everyone rushing B. The problem is when you run our of bullers, so I suggest you to have a friend there with a second negev to shoot while you reload or wait for the very last second to start shooting

[SrTakaMassa]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Haibara:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von m𝔸𝐝ℋ𝓪𝓉𝓢i𝘯neR:

It is rather impossible to solo defend a site against a full team rush especially when they go with SMG tactic of "run and gun". You can hold only 1 angle and when their utilities get you, you either get blind for few secs or you have to reposition yourself while they do their entry to the site. I'd change the whole strategy of the site holding.

I agree, I feel like I save my smoke or a molly, and maybe a flash sometimes against executes and usually will get 1 or 2 (with utility advantages) before I go down. But this is so ineffective against SMG full rush (they smoke my molly and run through nades). Against, they are very vulnerable against retakes since their hp is slow but its just embarrassing to me that I always get run over.

KK

[Neptunium]

Solo defending is a high-risked strat anyway. It`s normal when you got killed without frags or 1-2 frags in lucky day. Only one advice is call a second guy from mid or play 2-2-1.

[oJo]

first of, use m4a4, its just better lol, secondly, negev. if that team constantly rushes with p90, hide somewhere with negev, make them feel safe, when they plant just start ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ spraying, other then that train on "retake" servers, theyre great for it, negev basically only works in low ranks (gn4 and under),

if you're using negev as soon as you get flashed throw a smoke, then go on the right side of b entrence, its a very uncommon spot and will usually work atleast once per game, then start spraying them in the back, if not hide from the begining, also you can stay in middle and come behind them in tunnel,

if you arent using negev immidiatally molly it and go to tunnel, usually 1 or 2 will go into tunnels, if not then go behind them and shoot them, this usually works with a teammate since he can slow them down and distract them if he is on b site,

the most skillful method is behind in mid/ct spawn with an awp/scout or anything you can 1 shot them from a far distance (awp, sg553 and aug work best), then spray them from there, if you're using a sg/aug be in ct spawn and be ontop of the boxes, if not then be next to doors, since if you have a automatic gun you can just spray them, but if you have a awp you have to peak and hide each shot, if you wanna i can show you, also another great counter is the pp-bizon, since it has a very small recoil pattern its very easy to get headshots, but it has many more bullets, so you can spray them all, usually getting little kills, but a lot of damage

[inG]

just stop them from entering B