How to get to global elite in 2 weeks tutorial

[76561198129892137]

Buy bloody mouse = win


Now seriously...

When is it going to be banned in CSGO? The abuse of recoil reduction and controll macros in CSGO is not even funny anymore on match maker.

The highier you go in ranks, the worse situation gets.

Don't brag about overwatch because we all know they never gonna ban anyone for it. Any skillful player can cover up its use pretty good, and VAC is not detecting anything. The thing have to be not allowed to use in this game, like they did it in RUST... Where you get kicked from the game if you're using such mouse.

They are ruining this game with those cheating mice.

[ileryon]

Publicado originalmente por Fallen:

Publicado originalmente por KokkoJustus:

Reaching global requires a lot more than knowing how to counter recoil.
An average DMG can counter a recoil well enough.

True but you have to admit not having to worry about recoil makes the game much easier.

not if hit THEM SICK TAPS WOOOW

[menace]

Publicado originalmente por el disablo:

Publicado originalmente por nezzar:

I didn't even buy it myself, it was a gift.

You said you paid $50, now you say it Is a gift, just admit you bought it cuz you want to cheat.

Use your brain a little more, the person who bought it for me said what the price was, and also, it's not dollar, its euro.

[Palestinian Warlord]

Publicado originalmente por nezzar:

Publicado originalmente por el disablo:

You said you paid $50, now you say it Is a gift, just admit you bought it cuz you want to cheat.

Use your brain a little more, the person who bought it for me said what the price was, and also, it's not dollar, its euro.

You said you paid 50 euro and want a refund, then later we find out you want a refund for mouse you didn't pay for. I like the plot twist. Especially how you have 25 hours and give your opinion on such a complex subject for your time in this game.

No one said mouse has to be banned, just the scripts it supports.

[_zorro☩™]

Publicado originalmente por Catholic/Mormon Joint Task Force:

Let's be realistic for a minute. Valve is not going to issue hardware bans for mice. There are many legitimate Bloody users, who have their own reasons. Some just like the mice. You also can't ban the software, because anyone can do reasonably well aim scripts with other gaming software. Ban the software, and nobody can change DPI, refresh, surface tracking, etc.

On the other hand, recoil scripts are an issue. I think everyone agrees that positioning, movement, map knowledge, and reaction time truly put everyone into their skill groups when they play at their hardest. But in strict 1v1's, a recoil script can be unfair. You can't, as an inherently imperfect being, be expected to combat perfection.

Overwatch doesn't necessarily solve the problem. Scripters can make multiple scripts, with varying levels of accuracy/inaccuracy, and change every other round or even mid-round. At higher levels of play, so much suspicious action takes place in the average Overwatch match that can be chalked up to coincidence or good communication. Taking that into consideration, watching for recoil scripts at those levels can be even more difficult.

If we want to start implementing FairFight-esque cooldowns for "scripts" and "suspicious input" like Rainbow Six: Siege, innocent people will receive cooldowns. I know this because it's happened to me and many other innocent people, FairFight Level 1 Monitoring only, but that being said it's happened. For those that don't know, FairFight has cooldowns that are given out if the player's stats, movement, or inputs either change wildly, unrealisticly, or go up or down too quickly. It works well about half of the time. Other times, it just cooldowns innocent people. They get a Level 1 Monitor, which is basically nothing, and to get to Level 2 Monitoring you have to blatantly cheat. Then people go months without problem, until they have 6 or 7 great games after changing sensitivity and get another Level 1 Monitoring cooldown. It's a flawed system that will work even less effectively in CS:GO.

There's really no solution to this problem that I can see working flawlessly, or even well. I'm also a filthy casual who just plays the game with friends and screws around, so what do I know?

There is a solution, black list the mouse it self. They did it in Easy Anti cheat.

Why the hell should anyone care? We all know that a4tech whole selling point are macros, we all know that people are willing to pay 50 euros for a badly built, cheap plastic, horrible laser "gaming mouse" just for macros. Any razer for 50e is 20 times better mouse and will outlast any a4tech, just to give na example... So don't start about bloody mouse owners pity.

Im personaly sick and tired of this thing ruining every game that has a gun in it, and im happy to see it getting forbidden in games, such as rust.

A4tech knows what they're selling, people know what they're buying. They know what kind of tool is it, they know it goes against terms of use of nearly every single game there is, they don't care what kind of games they're ruining. I don't see any point why any of this should be tolerated. If a4tech doesent care, why would anyone else, including game developers care about their mouse. If a4tech cared we would not have anything to discuss at this point.

[1gnis]

Just practice headshots. Much better than recoil control

[ileryon]

Publicado originalmente por 1gnis:

Just practice headshots. Much better than recoil control

And more reliable

[_zorro☩™]

Publicado originalmente por Catholic/Mormon Joint Task Force:

Publicado originalmente por _zorro☩™:

There is a solution, black list the mouse it self. They did it in Easy Anti cheat.

Why the hell should anyone care? We all know that a4tech whole selling point are macros, we all know that people are willing to pay 50 euros for a badly built, cheap plastic, horrible laser "gaming mouse" just for macros. Any razer for 50e is 20 times better mouse and will outlast any a4tech, just to give na example... So don't start about bloody mouse owners pity.

Im personaly sick and tired of this thing ruining every game that has a gun in it, and im happy to see it getting forbidden in games, such as rust.

A4tech knows what they're selling, people know what they're buying. They know what kind of tool is it, they know it goes against terms of use of nearly every single game there is, they don't care what kind of games they're ruining. I don't see any point why any of this should be tolerated. If a4tech doesent care, why would anyone else, including game developers care about their mouse. If a4tech cared we would not have anything to discuss at this point.

Blacklisting hardware, like I said before, is a slippery slope. If you want to argue that most BM users would quit using macros if the mouse was banned and wouldn't find ways to cheat otherwise, I want to see some qualified metrics on that.

The fact of the matter is that other options are available for making great macro scripts. Are we going to ban iCUE next? Synapse? They can do the exact same thing. People who use recoil scripts, if they're not using other cheats simultaneously of course, are trying to hide what they're doing.

I see nothing inherently wrong with what the BM team is doing, because implementing amazing macro abilities should be celebrated by the majority of the gaming community. And many games encourage macro use, including many MOBAs and MMOs. Most FPS games also aren't as simple as CS with its only complicated gunplay mechanic being spread and recoil. We aren't throwing C4 bundles at each other or flying around. As far as developer tools and programming tools go, macros are also really useful. If BM is advertising their mouse as an FPS mouse, and as a mouse with macros, but aren't specifically saying "cheat the competition," it becomes very dangerous to start banning hardware. It's got good sensors and macro capabilities. So do the majority of the mice on the market at the moment.

About pitying owners here, many legitimate owners of the mouse would be affected. When you look at the "specifications and peripherals" on many Steam profiles, a lot list BM as their mouse of choice. And they aren't even playing games where it can be abusive. Valve bans the mouse, others will start an uproar. It will be banned in other games. What if people like the mouse and don't use macros with it? Why should they be punished? This is the same logic that people have with respect to handling tragedies today. They want to ban something that was abused to harm others without considering the countless other legitimate and normal people who happen to own and utilize the item. This is bad logic, and drives truly bad individuals to even more harmful alternatives.

Banning BM will not stop the cheating epidemic or even put a dent into it, because most of the cheats in this game are script kiddies who are using aim-assistance, walls, or a combination to get up the ranked ladders. And before you think I'm blaming VAC, VAC's design is fundamentally sound with Trust Factor and PM being a thing now. If I have to play a game with a spinbotter and lose a game so 40 others get banned, I'm personally fine with that. Me and my team will just screw around. I mean, for Christ's sake, the last professional player to be caught cheating had a file named "word.exe" loaded with aim-lock on their PC at LAN. That's the extent most people have done to hide what they're doing. Ban BM, those inherently sneaky users will get even more sneaky. It's not worth it. We have to train Overwatch reviewers to be better at seeing it, and it will take time. Let's get the really blatant people banned first, because they won't want to make the effort of buying a mouse to cheat, they just wanna constantly use the same file on new free accounts and buy Prime for a few bucks. They don't care about being caught, and don't care about the game.

BM users are comparatively harmless in the grand scheme of things. If they're using the mouse like a normal human being, cool. They're exactly like you and me. If anyone is using any software or hardware for recoil assistance, then let's combat it by having better map knowledge and decision making than them. We report them, hope Overwatch catches them, and move on.

Any cheater deserves same punishment.. thee is no such thing as macro being soft core and aimbot hardcore cheats... They're all cheaters of same value.

They already know the maps like everyone else, the thing is that people play the game with macros and being convinced they're legit while having advantage because mouse it self is moving it self to counter recoil on single button push by player.. Now dont tell me that this should be ignored and that players here need to wait another 20 years untill overwatch and everyone else realise it.. It's not gonna happen.

Nobody on overwatch is even looking at the video twice, nobody is focusing on details.. everyone is looking for obvious things for a verdict, so nobody is ever gonna get banned for macros unless game developers change the circumstances in their game and ban the damn mouse.

I am yet to see even a script for those mouses being discussed and made on any decent website, people are downloading scripts from cheat coders community directly, yes same people that make aimbots and wallhacks are making scripts for CSGO and every other game that has gun in it, for a4tech mouses.