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Ramenful Dude 2020년 5월 2일 오후 8시 42분
A Proposal For A New Knife: The Commando Knife
Hey there peeps.

First, I am not associated with/against with M-Tech USA, Smith & Wesson, United Cutlery, William Rodgers, the Egginton Group, Sheffield Collectable Knives, eBay or Amazon whatsoever, and if I’m mentioning their names below, it’s solely for informative purposes.

Now, this’s been in my mind since early 2018, when I bought CS:GO on my old account.

I came up with a nice idea for a new knife, and decided to add some bullet points with interesting/helpful/cool facts, plus, some extras (videos and links) for you all to check if interested, and why I feel we need it. Also, this would serve as a means to, somehow, appeal peeps at Valve to take into account my proposal of this knife for a future Operation/Case (highly unlikely to happen, but always worth the shot).

Now, we all know most of the knives out there look generic (read as, cheap-looking tactical-esque), nothing a special forces/terrorist organization member would carry, even on real life, unless very short of money, which is not really an excuse.

Some out there are good-looking and look robust, but they feel cheap once you dig in a little into them, like the M9 Bayonet, which is inspired on the Smith & Wesson SW3B knife, with more-or-less average reviews, the Karambit, based on the United Cutlery Honshu Karambit, again, with meh reviews, and dirt cheap, or the Huntsman Knife which is based on the M-Tech USA Xtreme MX-8054, with, again, just okay-performance reviews.

What I mean with the above, is that we need realistic, even top-notch, working knives someone in special operations would carry to the field, and not just your cheap average tacticool-ish-looking knife you’d get on eBay or Amazon.

So, I felt there’s a need for us all (both C-Ts and Ts) for a silent, classic-yet-modern-looking, eye-pleasing, solid-looking, truly tactical, working knife, and the image that automatically popped into my mind was the Fairbairn-Sykes fighting knife, or, as I’d call it in-game, if it was to exist, the Commando Knife (it’s even one of its real-life names).

Some interesting information about it, below.

  • The Fairbairn-Sykes knife was designed by two Englishmen, legends in the combatives/self-defense world.

    First, William E. Fairbairn, who was the founder of the first SWAT-like group, trained the British Commandos and the OSS (precursor of the CIA) during WW2, and survived 600 to-death knife fights/gunfights.

    Second, Eric A. Sykes, who was a sniper during WW1 on the Western Front, head of the sniper unit at the Shanghai Municipal Police in the 1920s (Shanghai was the most dangerous city of the world at that time), capable of shooting a pistol accurately at a man’s head at 100 yards, and also well-versed in close combat.

  • The Fairbairn-Sykes knife is currently issued to the special forces groups/militaries below.

    • British Special Air Service (SAS).

    • British Royal Marines.

    • British Special Boat Service (SBS).

    • British Army.

    • French Commandos Marine.

    • Polish 1 Samodzielna Kompania Commando (6 Troop No. 10 Commando).

    • Belgian Special Operations Regiment (formerly known as the Paracommando Brigade).

    • Canadian Armed Forces.

    • Cambodian 911 Special Forces Regiment.

    • Indonesian Kopassus.

    • Malaysian Group Gerak Khas (GGK).

    • Malaysian Pasukan Khas TUDM.

    • Singapore Armed Forces Commando Formation.

    The knife was also used, in one form or another, during WW2, by the British Commandos, the Parachute Regiment, the Special Air Service (SAS), the OSS, the USMC Marine Raiders, the First Special Service Force (known as the Devil’s Brigade, a joint U.S./Canada force), the U.S. Army Rangers, and the Polish 1 Samodzielna Brygada Spadochronowa (1st Polish Independent Parachute Brigade Group).

  • The Fairbairn-Sykes knife, virtually unchanged from its introduction in 1941, is still produced by William Rodgers (a manufacturer which made them up to this day since 1943, and which now forms part of the Egginton Group, a conglomerate of knifemakers from all England), and is currently issued to the SAS, the SBS, the Royal Marines, and the British Army in general.

    This version (which anyone can buy on the Egginton Group’s website), has zero markings (only if supplied to the British Army, but I don't think there would be a reason against this if any other military force made an authorized purchase), making it a “sterilized” weapon. It’s made from heat-tempered high-carbon steel, with a non-reflective matte black oxide finish (blades look somewhat lighter in color than the handles due to their chemical treatment).

    This version of the Fairbairn-Sykes knife is the only one supplied under government contract in the world to the British Ministry of Defense (MoD), and has a NATO listing number. All of these knives come with a letter of authenticity (yes, even those you can buy from the Egginton Group’s website).

    I honestly believe, if we were to get the Commando Knife, it should loosely-based, if not exactly replicated, after this version, since having no markings on it, eliminates any chances of toying up with weird names for the markings/logos, as seen on certain knives, like the Karambit, and avoids legal/copyright issues.

    Also, we’d get a knife that is currently issued to real special operations members, like those from the SAS (which, obviously, are in-game).

  • The Fairbairn-Sykes knife was designed as a highly-effective, well-balanced fighting knife, which happened to be also perfect for silent elimination. Early variations of it had knurled slim-vase-shaped handles for perfect grip and balance, and a needle-tip-sharp blade with an etched ricasso (known as the first pattern).

    Second pattern knives had a different blade, but remained perfect for thrusting/slashing, and retained the first pattern handle.

    Third pattern knives, the ones we also see today, had an improved, more robust-yet-sleek slim-vase-shaped ribbed handle for even a better grip, and retained the blade shape.

    The only differences between those knives with those from the Egginton Group (and most we see today), are that the latter got a tiny flat triangle-shaped section at the base of the blade, for ease of manufacture, and a flat and wide cylindrical pommel nut.

    Overall, if the design remained almost the same for almost 80 years, it’s because it’s a working, effective-at-its-job, solid knife, which has been only improved with better materials to meet today’s standards.

Below, some links to some useful information.


So, what do you think? Would you like to see the Commando Knife in-game? Leave your comments below, and let’s all hope for Valve to make it real.

Have a great day, and God bless.

TL;DR: Would you like to see the Egginton Group's Commando Knife in-game? Please, check the fourth link for details and a picture of it.
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juhn 2020년 5월 3일 오후 5시 34분 
would be a cool thing to add
#31
Ramenful Dude 2020년 5월 3일 오후 7시 23분 
niko님이 먼저 게시:
Read like 2 sentences and jumped down to the video, the knife looks pretty much like the tooth picker stiletto, people want something new. I would rather want a samurai sword lol

Thanks for replying.

The post pretty much summarizes why we would need the Commando Knife, plus some interesting facts, and also a thought of current knives in the game.

While looking a little bit similar, talking about the blade shape here (which isn't even that much similar to the Commando Knife's), both knives are very different. The Stiletto is just a collectable knife, something you wouldn't want to carry to the battlefield, or even use as a self-defense weapon.

The Fairbairn-Sykes is better designed for fighting/silent killing, because of it's moderately large needle-sharp-edged blade, and because of it's solid well-balanced handle, offering a secure grip whatever the way you handle it. We aren't even talking about the materials, the F-S logically is made of way better ones than your average stiletto, due it's meant to be carried onto the battlefield.

Finally, the Commando Knife fills ins the niche of a classic-yet-truly-tactical and dead silent looking knife for use with either C-Ts or Ts.

Cheers.
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Ramenful Dude 2020년 5월 3일 오후 7시 49분 
Yeahman님이 먼저 게시:
would be a cool thing to add

Thanks for replying.

Yeah, I feel this knife has a lot of potential, and certainly would also like it to see it in-game.

Cheers.
#33
Raspada531 2020년 5월 3일 오후 8시 01분 
niko님이 먼저 게시:
I would rather want a samurai sword lol
Kunai would be nice. Or maybe a tanto, and then named it Chunchunmaru.

Dragunblader님이 먼저 게시:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqgc_KLVtOQ
It's cool I guess. But I think this one is even sicker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slOLU8r3VAc
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#34
Ramenful Dude 2020년 5월 3일 오후 9시 51분 
Raspada531님이 먼저 게시:
niko님이 먼저 게시:
I would rather want a samurai sword lol
Kunai would be nice. Or maybe a tanto, and then named it Chunchunmaru.

Dragunblader님이 먼저 게시:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqgc_KLVtOQ
It's cool I guess. But I think this one is even sicker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slOLU8r3VAc

Thanks for replying.

Japanese-styled daggers/knives/swords are always are yes for me. But I'd rather stick to something a little more realistic, hence why I only play with vanilla weapons and close-to-real character skins.

The M48 is a beast, sure, and maybe it should be added later on, not my type of thing though.

Cheers.

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wsendak ⭕⃤ 2020년 5월 4일 오전 12시 17분 
The knife doesnt look good IMHO but nice write you had there ;)
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Ramenful Dude 2020년 5월 4일 오후 7시 13분 
Wasendak ⭕⃤님이 먼저 게시:
The knife doesnt look good IMHO but nice write you had there ;)

Thanks for replying.

Well, each one has their opinion, and that's good, so, no problem. And thanks for the kind words dude, appreciate it.

Had to make a kinda long post to catch Valve's attention, and to appeal honest readers, but, being honest, it's my style to write like this, as much informative as I can, doesn't matter if it ain't little or much.

Wish the post was pinned by someone, but it's only a humble request, but who knows...

Cheers.
#37
Sabrina 2020년 5월 4일 오후 8시 54분 
Bro, the knife that you propose is already present in the game.

THAT'S A FREAKING STANDARD CT KNIFE
#38
Ramenful Dude 2020년 5월 5일 오후 6시 30분 
Сабрина님이 먼저 게시:
Bro, the knife that you propose is already present in the game.

THAT'S A FREAKING STANDARD CT KNIFE

Thanks for replying.

No, it isn't present, since, despite both knives have dagger-style blades, the Commando Knife has a slimmer, needle-like-tipped blade, designed for silent elimination, whereas the default C-T knife is more used for field tasks, while still retaning decent combat capabilities.

I'm telling this becuase the default C-T knife is designed after the Eickhorn Recondo IV, which is a knife designed for field use, but also can be used as a combat weapon, whereas the Commando Knife is exclusively designed for combat use, plus silent elimination.

The blade is sharp enough to pierce a ribcage and to make nastu artery cuts, which would leave an enemy dead in amatter or minutes. Plus, the Commando Knife is exclusively made of steel, while the Recondo IV is made, aside from steel, from fiberglass, for its handle.

Cheers.
#39
Ramenful Dude 2020년 5월 28일 오전 11시 06분 
Any more thoughts about the Commando Knife? Would really love to see it in-game. Cheers all.
#40
Ramenful Dude 2020년 5월 29일 오후 1시 06분 
Batman님이 먼저 게시:
The crowbar would be nice ^_^

Thanks for replying.

I like Half-Life a lot, but a crowbar would be a bit out of place, at least for me. Loved the Half-Life-themed stickers though (I'm not into stickers, but those surely look pretty good).

Cheers.
#41
Ramenful Dude 2020년 9월 9일 오후 8시 53분 
It's been almost 3 months since I wrote this post so far, and I still would love to see the Commando Knife in-game. What about you peeps? Any thoughts?

Greetings.
#42
Dying Lactic Acid Bacteria 2020년 9월 9일 오후 8시 55분 
your item cannot make into game until its finished model is presented in workshop not in discussions
#43
wsendak ⭕⃤ 2020년 9월 9일 오후 10시 21분 
Dark Alliance | PvPRO.com님이 먼저 게시:
your item cannot make into game until its finished model is presented in workshop not in discussions

Knife models not coming from workshop they are all made by Valve. Only weapon skins could make into the game. Models and skins are different. Our hero here is just loves the look of an IRL knife and hopes it gets some attention and Valve would think about making and adding into the game.
#44
frackingfan6969 2020년 9월 9일 오후 10시 23분 
Smith & Wesson rocks.
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