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Valorants anti cheat ?
Valorant anti-cheat starts upon computer boot and runs all the time, even when you don't play the game
The kernel anticheat driver (vgk.sys) starts when you turn your computer on. To turn it off, you either need to change the name of the driver file so it wouldn't load on a restart, or you can uninstall the driver (it will be installed back again when you open the game).

so ya, the big issue here is it running even when players don't have the game open, from startup no less. EDIT - It runs at Ring 0 of the Windows Kernel which means it always has the same rights as administrator from the moment you boot.



For comparison, BattlEye and EasyAntiCheat both load when you're opening the game, and unload when you've closed it. If you'd like to see for yourself, open cmd and type "sc query vgk"
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✪Check ツ™ Apr 13, 2020 @ 6:15pm 
hmmmmmm
✪Check ツ™ Apr 13, 2020 @ 6:16pm 
TL;DR Yes we run a driver at system startup, it doesn't scan anything (unless the game is running), it's designed to take up as few system resources as possible and it doesn't communicate to our servers. You can remove it at anytime.

Vanguard contains a driver component called vgk.sys (similar to other anti-cheat systems), it's the reason why a reboot is required after installing. Vanguard doesn't consider the computer trusted unless the Vanguard driver is loaded at system startup (this part is less common for anti-cheat systems).

This is good for stopping cheaters because a common way to bypass anti-cheat systems is to load cheats before the anti-cheat system starts and either modify system components to contain the cheat or to have the cheat tamper with the anti-cheat system as it loads. Running the driver at system startup time makes this significantly more difficult.

We've tried to be very careful with the security of the driver. We've had multiple external security research teams review it for flaws (we don't want to accidentally decrease the security of the computer like other anti-cheat drivers have done in the past). We're also following a least-privilege approach to the driver where the driver component does as little as possible preferring to let the non-driver component do the majority of work (also the non-driver component doesn't run unless the game is running).

The Vanguard driver does not collect or send any information about your computer back to us. Any cheat detection scans will be run by the non-driver component only when the game is running.

The Vanguard driver can be uninstalled at any time (it'll be "Riot Vanguard" in Add/Remove programs) and the driver component does not collect any information from your computer or communicate over the network at all.

We think this is an important tool in our fight against cheaters but the important part is that we're here so that players can have a good experience with Valorant and if our security tools do more harm than good we will remove them (and try something else). For now we think a run-at-boot time driver is the right choice.
✪Check ツ™ Apr 13, 2020 @ 6:16pm 
Interesting
Please stop making off topic posts about this crappy wannabe cs for little kids in the csgo forum! Thx very much.
Scrub Apr 13, 2020 @ 6:20pm 
wah VAC needs to be more invasive
wah this is too invasive

The goalposts are on a flatbed truck that have not stopped moving since CS:GO launched.

Also: please keep this stuff to the Valorant forums.
✪Check ツ™ Apr 13, 2020 @ 6:22pm 
Originally posted by doc:
wah VAC needs to be more invasive
wah this is too invasive

The goalposts are on a flatbed truck that have not stopped moving since CS:GO launched.

Also: please keep this stuff to the Valorant forums.

Exactly!. Thats why their anti cheat system kills 2 birds with one stone. Invasive for the cheat exploits but not invasive for personal information! And does not communicate with anything except valorant and its integrity! Smart idea if u ask me
Reported for spamming and off topic!
jpegmafia Apr 13, 2020 @ 6:28pm 
игра просто найс мне нравится
rage Apr 13, 2020 @ 6:51pm 
Originally posted by ✪Check ツ™:
Originally posted by doc:
wah VAC needs to be more invasive
wah this is too invasive

The goalposts are on a flatbed truck that have not stopped moving since CS:GO launched.

Also: please keep this stuff to the Valorant forums.

Exactly!. Thats why their anti cheat system kills 2 birds with one stone. Invasive for the cheat exploits but not invasive for personal information! And does not communicate with anything except valorant and its integrity! Smart idea if u ask me

Keep licking Riot boot
Scrub Apr 13, 2020 @ 6:52pm 
Originally posted by rage:
Originally posted by ✪Check ツ™:

Exactly!. Thats why their anti cheat system kills 2 birds with one stone. Invasive for the cheat exploits but not invasive for personal information! And does not communicate with anything except valorant and its integrity! Smart idea if u ask me

Keep licking Riot boot
Just bumping a thread to be a jerk to someone, nice.

Can we please leave Valorant threads on the Valorant forums?
rage Apr 13, 2020 @ 6:55pm 
Originally posted by doc:
Originally posted by rage:

Keep licking Riot boot
Just bumping a thread to be a jerk to someone, nice.

Can we please leave Valorant threads on the Valorant forums?

Don't bump post

But I can bump post

Okey
✪Check ツ™ Apr 14, 2020 @ 4:23pm 
Originally posted by rage:
Originally posted by doc:
Just bumping a thread to be a jerk to someone, nice.

Can we please leave Valorant threads on the Valorant forums?

Don't bump post

But I can bump post

Okey
What ???
osaka peek Apr 14, 2020 @ 4:27pm 
ESEA Anti-Cheat also starts on boot

still not really cheater proof
Midg3t Apr 14, 2020 @ 4:28pm 
Originally posted by ✪Check ツ™:
Originally posted by doc:
wah VAC needs to be more invasive
wah this is too invasive

The goalposts are on a flatbed truck that have not stopped moving since CS:GO launched.

Also: please keep this stuff to the Valorant forums.

Exactly!. Thats why their anti cheat system kills 2 birds with one stone. Invasive for the cheat exploits but not invasive for personal information! And does not communicate with anything except valorant and its integrity! Smart idea if u ask me

Watch SomeOrdinaryGamers's vid where he explains why that kind of an anti-cheat is a bad idea.
Recon Apr 14, 2020 @ 4:57pm 
Originally posted by ✪Check ツ™:
The kernel anticheat driver (vgk.sys) starts when you turn your computer on. To turn it off, you either need to change the name of the driver file so it wouldn't load on a restart, or you can uninstall the driver (it will be installed back again when you open the game).

so ya, the big issue here is it running even when players don't have the game open, from startup no less. EDIT - It runs at Ring 0 of the Windows Kernel which means it always has the same rights as administrator from the moment you boot.
why does this sound like a rootkit, but it isnt at the same time
Last edited by Recon; Apr 14, 2020 @ 4:58pm
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