Closet Cheaters

[SingedNasus]

I don't think the community actually realizes just how many people in prime MM are closeting. This happens in all ranks and predominately in good TF (bad TF has more semi-rage/rage than closet).

Closet cheaters are much harder to detect and are even harder the higher ranking you go typically. These are people who play with low-fov aim correction, sometimes triggerbot, and typically don't use or rarely toggle walls/ESP, and already have a good understanding of the game without cheats.

Reasons they don't get caught:

• They are using paid cheats which typically are designed solely for legit cheating and not HvH thus having smaller userbases which makes VAC detection less likely.
  
• Most of these paid cheats are rarely detected (once every few years) and most of the cheaters are not playing on high risk accounts anyway. So cheat dev will update cheat, they get a new account, and good for another few years. IF they get caught in a VAC wave
  
• Overwatch is useless against them for several reasons. The low-tickrate demos in OW make it harder to spot aim assistance especially with low-fov aimbots designed for "legit" play. They have normal crosshair placement and don't follow people blatantly through walls like idiots, if they use walls/ESP at all. If for some reason they need to go semi-blatant (i.e. clutch round/close game) they only do it for a single round making the likelihood of OW low.

This is only covering strictly Valve MM, there are people cheating in leagues also using very private cheats paying upwards of hundreds of dollars a month for said cheats because they are able to bypass league AC.

In conclusion I'd say arguably that closet cheaters are worse than ragehackers because they usually stick to non-prime and are banned quickly (latest server crash stuff aside). If I had to guess I'd estimate that 2-4 people in any given MM game regardless of high trust/rank are closet cheating to some extent.

We need to make MM great again.

[Hamless Hog]

ive been told most closet cheaters arent actually cheating.

[SingedNasus]

Originally posted by Hogarth:

ive been told most closet cheaters arent actually cheating.

I find that unlikely given the market size for closet cheats.

[Hamless Hog]

Originally posted by MIKE ⚡ PENCE:

Originally posted by Hogarth:

ive been told most closet cheaters arent actually cheating.

I find that unlikely given the market size for closet cheats.

closet cheats? arent they just normal cheats though?

[SingedNasus]

Originally posted by xoxo:

Originally posted by Hogarth:

ive been told most closet cheaters arent actually cheating.

This. There are almost no cheaters in good trust but people like OP think everyone who is better than them is a cheater u_u very sad

You seriously believe that nobody in high trust are closeting? I'd argue that there are MORE of them in high trust because they rarely get called out.

[Hamless Hog]

Originally posted by MIKE ⚡ PENCE:

Originally posted by xoxo:

This. There are almost no cheaters in good trust but people like OP think everyone who is better than them is a cheater u_u very sad

You seriously believe that nobody in high trust are closeting? I'd argue that there are MORE of them in high trust because they rarely get called out.

probably because they arent cheating.

[cat]

“Most of these paid cheats are rarely detected (once every few years)“
okay what cheats dude

[SingedNasus]

Originally posted by Cody:

“Most of these paid cheats are rarely detected (once every few years)“
okay what cheats dude

I'm fairly certain I'm not allowed to name them but if you were to lookup the information yourself you'll find that most of them haven't been detected in a few years.

[SingedNasus]

Originally posted by TheDude:

Originally posted by MIKE ⚡ PENCE:

You seriously believe that nobody in high trust are closeting? I'd argue that there are MORE of them in high trust because they rarely get called out.

I seriously believe you don't have enough experience. And you're obviously trying to get attention with your account name.

The question I have is why? Why do you need attention?

Ironic coming from someone who is trying to flex PC specs on their profile like anyone cares.

[ash]

Originally posted by Cody:

“Most of these paid cheats are rarely detected (once every few years)“
okay what cheats dude

Skeet never got detected. Aim ware didn't get detected since 2017. Only vac waves were from features detections/exploit detections.

[-☠- UniiQuee -☠-]

Originally posted by MIKE ⚡ PENCE:

I don't think the community actually realizes just how many people in prime MM are closeting. This happens in all ranks and predominately in good TF (bad TF has more semi-rage/rage than closet).

Closet cheaters are much harder to detect and are even harder the higher ranking you go typically. These are people who play with low-fov aim correction, sometimes triggerbot, and typically don't use or rarely toggle walls/ESP, and already have a good understanding of the game without cheats.

Reasons they don't get caught:

• They are using paid cheats which typically are designed solely for legit cheating and not HvH thus having smaller userbases which makes VAC detection less likely.
  
• Most of these paid cheats are rarely detected (once every few years) and most of the cheaters are not playing on high risk accounts anyway. So cheat dev will update cheat, they get a new account, and good for another few years. IF they get caught in a VAC wave
  
• Overwatch is useless against them for several reasons. The low-tickrate demos in OW make it harder to spot aim assistance especially with low-fov aimbots designed for "legit" play. They have normal crosshair placement and don't follow people blatantly through walls like idiots, if they use walls/ESP at all. If for some reason they need to go semi-blatant (i.e. clutch round/close game) they only do it for a single round making the likelihood of OW low.

This is only covering strictly Valve MM, there are people cheating in leagues also using very private cheats paying upwards of hundreds of dollars a month for said cheats because they are able to bypass league AC.

In conclusion I'd say arguably that closet cheaters are worse than ragehackers because they usually stick to non-prime and are banned quickly (latest server crash stuff aside). If I had to guess I'd estimate that 2-4 people in any given MM game regardless of high trust/rank are closet cheating to some extent.

We need to make MM great again. :MAGAHat:

Throwaway account - Cant take this seriously sry...

[Varsik]

Originally posted by superyu:

Originally posted by Cody:

“Most of these paid cheats are rarely detected (once every few years)“
okay what cheats dude

Skeet never got detected. Aim ware didn't get detected since 2017. Only vac waves were from features detections/exploit detections.

Yes they did as far as i know....

[N.3.H.A.L]

True

[Wehrmacht Logistics]

Originally posted by MIKE ⚡ PENCE:

I don't think the community actually realizes just how many people in prime MM are closeting. This happens in all ranks and predominately in good TF (bad TF has more semi-rage/rage than closet).

Closet cheaters are much harder to detect and are even harder the higher ranking you go typically. These are people who play with low-fov aim correction, sometimes triggerbot, and typically don't use or rarely toggle walls/ESP, and already have a good understanding of the game without cheats.

Reasons they don't get caught:

• They are using paid cheats which typically are designed solely for legit cheating and not HvH thus having smaller userbases which makes VAC detection less likely.
  
• Most of these paid cheats are rarely detected (once every few years) and most of the cheaters are not playing on high risk accounts anyway. So cheat dev will update cheat, they get a new account, and good for another few years. IF they get caught in a VAC wave
  
• Overwatch is useless against them for several reasons. The low-tickrate demos in OW make it harder to spot aim assistance especially with low-fov aimbots designed for "legit" play. They have normal crosshair placement and don't follow people blatantly through walls like idiots, if they use walls/ESP at all. If for some reason they need to go semi-blatant (i.e. clutch round/close game) they only do it for a single round making the likelihood of OW low.

This is only covering strictly Valve MM, there are people cheating in leagues also using very private cheats paying upwards of hundreds of dollars a month for said cheats because they are able to bypass league AC.

In conclusion I'd say arguably that closet cheaters are worse than ragehackers because they usually stick to non-prime and are banned quickly (latest server crash stuff aside). If I had to guess I'd estimate that 2-4 people in any given MM game regardless of high trust/rank are closet cheating to some extent.

We need to make MM great again. :MAGAHat:

you can also add that there is a free cheat VAC can't detect,just because it don't even write on csgo process

its free on a popular cheat site


and have something like 100k downloads

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k

[Vikingz_Odin]

Originally posted by Hogarth:

Originally posted by MIKE ⚡ PENCE:

You seriously believe that nobody in high trust are closeting? I'd argue that there are MORE of them in high trust because they rarely get called out.

probably because they arent cheating.

Maybe a more reason for your conclusion? So you're saying 10k or so banned a month is just another conspiracy theory?