Spray Paint Sound? (Can Enemy hear that?)

[Kurz]

Quick question. Was wondering if the noise made from the spray paint can would give away position if you were to use it. Also as well inspecting weapons and changing weapons??? Can enemy hear that? Any feedback would be great. Thankyou. -Bossi-

[risible]

Originally posted by Kbob:

Originally posted by Fyndir:

You can in third person or free camera spectator, so I see no evidence that the enemy team would somehow be unable to hear the same thing.

The video posted above repeats your claim without showing any evidence to support it, in fact the one time he presented an enemy view was for falling damage, why he didn't do the same with the other claims I have no clue.

Really the only way to settle this apparent disagreement would be for someone to go into a private match with a friend (no bots, no planted bomb, no talking, just standing nearby while the other person swaps weapons etc to get nice clean unobscured audio) and record.

I believe, based on experience and the way you hear the sounds in spectator mode, that swapping weapons makes sound that your enemy can hear.

You can't hear weapon switch at all

Unless you're the one who switched weapons.

[Fyndir]

I like the way you guys just keep repeating the claim as though I'll go "Well gee now that you said it for a fifth time I agree with you!"

There is a disagreement, I laid out some supporting evidence for myself and put forth a suggestion of how to resolve the disagreement and find out who is correct, repeating yourselves is kind of pointless.

[Electric]

You can't hear weapon switching, it's a fact ffs.

[risible]

Originally posted by Fyndir:

I like the way you guys just keep repeating the claim as though I'll go "Well gee now that you said it for a fifth time I agree with you!"

There is a disagreement, I laid out some supporting evidence for myself and put forth a suggestion of how to resolve the disagreement and find out who is correct, repeating yourselves is kind of pointless.

Your evidence is invalid, go test it and you will see.

[Fyndir]

Originally posted by Kuяwa!:

Originally posted by Fyndir:

I like the way you guys just keep repeating the claim as though I'll go "Well gee now that you said it for a fifth time I agree with you!"

There is a disagreement, I laid out some supporting evidence for myself and put forth a suggestion of how to resolve the disagreement and find out who is correct, repeating yourselves is kind of pointless.

Your evidence is invalid, go test it and you will see.

Test what? Spectating live games? I did that to confirm before I said anything about it, you can hear it really easily (especially if you wait for round start and do it in spawn when bored people flip weapons around a bunch).

If you can't be bothered to do that for yourself, or are saying that you tried it and couldn't hear it, then I'll upload a quick video, just let me know if that's the case.

Testing with multiple people in a private server (to remove any issue caused by being a spectator) would require a second willing tester, which I don't have available at this time.

[risible]

Originally posted by Fyndir:

Originally posted by Kuяwa!:

Your evidence is invalid, go test it and you will see.

Test what? Spectating live games? I did that to confirm before I said anything about it, you can hear it really easily (especially if you wait for round start and do it in spawn when bored people flip weapons around a bunch).

If you can't be bothered to do that for yourself, or are saying that you tried it and couldn't hear it, then I'll upload a quick video, just let me know if that's the case.

Testing with multiple people in a private server (to remove any issue caused by being a spectator) would require a second willing tester, which I don't have available at this time.

Spectating is not playing the game. Get a friend on the enemy team and make them switch weapons, you will not hear weapon switching.

[ヤスクニ Heroes]

Originally posted by Panzashrank:

Yep they can hear switches, ,inspects and i believe spraying

+1

[ヤスクニ Heroes]

Originally posted by Vault Hunter 101 | cases2x.com:

Spraying = Yes
Inspecting = No
Switching = Maybe?

pretty sure u can hear butterfly inspecting.... my proof is death cam.

switching is definite yes.

[Fyndir]

Originally posted by Kuяwa!:

Originally posted by Fyndir:

Test what? Spectating live games? I did that to confirm before I said anything about it, you can hear it really easily (especially if you wait for round start and do it in spawn when bored people flip weapons around a bunch).

If you can't be bothered to do that for yourself, or are saying that you tried it and couldn't hear it, then I'll upload a quick video, just let me know if that's the case.

Testing with multiple people in a private server (to remove any issue caused by being a spectator) would require a second willing tester, which I don't have available at this time.

Spectating is not playing the game. Get a friend on the enemy team and make them switch weapons, you will not hear weapon switching.

That is literally what I already suggested as a test to resolve the disagreement and also already told you I can't do right now.

So it seems we're in agreement about exactly how to resolve the issue, and the next question is who is going to get a chance to make a short video showing it in the meantime, so that's good.

Why you didn't just state that agreement with my proposed test in the fisrt place I have no idea.

[risible]

Originally posted by Fyndir:

Originally posted by Kuяwa!:

Spectating is not playing the game. Get a friend on the enemy team and make them switch weapons, you will not hear weapon switching.

That is literally what I already suggested as a test to resolve the disagreement and also already told you I can't do right now.

So it seems we're in agreement about exactly how to resolve the issue, and the next question is who is going to get a chance to make a short video showing it in the meantime, so that's good.

Why you didn't just state that agreement with my proposed test in the fisrt place I have no idea.

There's already a short video posted here.

[Fyndir]

Originally posted by Kuяwa!:

Originally posted by Fyndir:

That is literally what I already suggested as a test to resolve the disagreement and also already told you I can't do right now.

So it seems we're in agreement about exactly how to resolve the issue, and the next question is who is going to get a chance to make a short video showing it in the meantime, so that's good.

Why you didn't just state that agreement with my proposed test in the fisrt place I have no idea.

There's already a short video posted here.

The one that just repeats the claim without actually showing it from an enemy perspective? The only enemy perspective I saw in that video was for falling damage, and I already addressed that.

You can't possibly think that proves anything, can you? Especially not with the guy talking over it so you can't hear the other sounds clearly anyway? It's basically the worst possible attempt at evidence that could be presented.

[risible]

Originally posted by Fyndir:

Originally posted by Kuяwa!:

There's already a short video posted here.

The one that just repeats the claim without actually showing it from an enemy perspective? The only enemy perspective I saw in that video was for falling damage, and I already addressed that.

You can't possibly think that proves anything, can you?

The enemy is behind him, as seen in the video. All audio is from the enemy.

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They cant hear you switch weapons... Feel so bad for everyone with over 500 hours that were worried about making sound while switching

[Azeflord]

You actually can hear enemy switching weapons, maybe not primary weapons or secondary, but I always hear they switch to nades, knifes. Also spraying can be heard from a close range.

[Sithis]

Originally posted by AzeFlord:

You actually can hear enemy switching weapons, maybe not primary weapons or secondary, but I always hear they switch to nades, knifes. Also spraying can be heard from a close range.

Okay, from my small experience - and by that, I mean "the only reason I even knew there was an enemy behind that corner" - it works this way:

• Yes, switching any weapon to any other weapon makes sound at player's position; depending on the weapon, it might be different volume though;
  
• Yes, picking up a weapon is equal to switching and makes sound;
  
• Yes, reloading makes a very distinct sound on any weapon;
  
• Yes, scoping in and out makes sound; AWP's and Autosniper's are either completely same or very similar and fairly audible on a good headset; AUG's and SG553's is a very quiet "tlp" sound;
  
• Throwing weapon does not make a sound on its own, but the item landing on the ground does; also, when the player is pulling his other weapon after it, it makes sound as well;
  
• Inspecting item makes no sound.
  
• Using a spray makes sound for teammates, however, cannot verify that it does the same for enemies.

Each of these saved my in-game life dozens of times, in fact, I use sound to locate enemies all the time. However, I simply haven't seen anyone use Sprays outside their spawns, hence not being able to verify that.