Valve should be ashamed of themselves

[76561198002051860]

For a company that did as much for PC gaming yet leaves millions feeling like its almost there yet not enough.
Look at the state of CS GO.

Is it a wonder why most Professional players avoid Valve Official Matchmaking servers? Cheat infested Toxic troll cesspools filled by 2 types of players. 1) Complete noobs / children 2) Aimbotter/Wallhacker

Most pros don't bother going past Legendary Eagle, infact last I checked only s1mple and scream are Supreme/Global rank.

But the hell with the average man supporting this trash company with a hard earned dollar. And when Valve does release an update, its either to fix a major game breaking bug like the AMD/Intel bug we just had or an update that is focused towards the money. If its a bug that hinders the money making process in any way, they will patch it.

Laggy servers? Nope. Anti-Cheat? Nope. You play good, you get reported by the noobs and you get low Trust Factor. Same with the cheaters, they get reported and go into Low Trust Factor where honest players get to play against the cheaters. What a great system. So that leaves Noobs vs Noobs in High Trust Factor but rank > Silver. LMAO. What a joke.

No wonder Pros don't play in "Official" servers. Imagine World Class Olympic athletes refusing to play in the Olympics because of a large amount of dopers, or World Class Football teams refusing to play in FIFA World Cup.

Millions of average joes spend their hard earned money to prop up your trash of a company giving you money and this is how you treat your player base. To play your game, the skilled players need to join Third Party platforms in order to be recognized and then play in YOUR Major?

Valve, just almost, but never quite enough as long as your greed drives you. Doesn't matter right? GabeN is jolly and fat with 4.9 billion USD stuffed in his fat end, and the rest of you are making large bank amounts just sitting there collecting money with a whole troll army defending you on these forums.

The funniest thing about these forums is when a cheater gets a ban and comes back saying "Oh but I wasn't cheating" ---- INSANITY. Like these trash cheaters that are running around in you servers 1 deaging from across the map actually come here to say they dont cheat.

Hey I have an idea, why not ban their ENTIRE STEAM ACCOUNT? JUST DELETE THEIR ACCOUNT. Got Caught Cheating? Tough ♥♥♥♥, Try logging in, BAM 'This account has been removed, Stop cheating you cancker" -- How about that?

Know why? Because even a VAC banned account is still allowed to spend money. But Jig is Up Valve, most majority of people aren't going to spend their money in VAC account unless its a very old account with 1 single VAC due to a legit mistake, or a person was cheating and grew up, or whatever but those cases are Rare. So it makes no sense that you just simply allow Cheaters to return RIGHT BACK with the SAME ♥♥♥♥♥♥ cheat you just banned.

Overwatch is FILLED with Cheaters who are clearly using Public/Free cheats and the Real cheaters are getting away with it.

Its no wonder Pros don't participate in your "Official" Servers. What kind of a company is this?

So sad for your blind supporters, but as soon as your ship starts sinking Valve, these same people that are blindly loyal to you will be the first ones to jump to greener pastures.

Fix your Cheating Problem. Fix your Servers. Make Pros/Semi-Pros Want to play there. Fix or Get rid of your Trust Factor. Build your Community to be better representatives because Competition is coming, and the future won't hold much if you don't get it together now. You are already 10 years too late Valve.

[76561198838411031]

Death Star isa pa block user kayo hayop yan

[Death Star]

Speak English if you want me to understand what you are saying.

引用自 Yuna Shigemura：

Death Star isa pa block user kayo hayop yan

[B-o-B]

引用自 ╰☆ƬȤƲƳƲ☆╮『쯔』：

引用自 Damian：

I love how people rage about cheaters. Rage how valve is making money and not doing anything to csgo.

I also love private profiles. Raging about how this game has so many cheaters and so on. How there are toxic people in csgo.

Well I know this may be a shocker but toxic people are not valves problems. Unless you get life threats they won’t do anything. Why? Because it’s a game.

They can’t try to control everything people do while playing csgo.

Overwatch is suppose to fix griefers.

Overwatch is suppose to fix cheating I mm.

But the issue is overwatch isn’t rewarding enough and people don’t do it. I don’t do it myself since I have a limited time to actually play. Sometimes an hour. Which basically means turn on pc and queue right away so I can finish a match.

VAC is supposed to fix cheating. Overwatch is only an alternative anti cheat system that relies solely on the community's contribution

Show me were it says this? Nothing can fix cheating, in any game, ever.
You can contain it. Best any company can hope for.

OverWatch, as said by its creator May go Unsupervised, I'm sure it will, with enough data.

56:27 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObhK8lUfIlc

[Tedmouse]

Wow this blew up.

[76561198844902447]

引用自 4T5：

I agree with OP, especially about the Trust Factor. It is becoming a joke and totally predictable. Try to play a game or two with people 2 ranks or more below you (skills wise) and then the next 5 to 10 games are full of cheaters, just because those noobs reported you.

And btw I am sure I also report wrongly as well (add me to those noobs) because there are so many cheaters in my games I am suspicious of everybody.

Would the have allowed for us to review the game afterwards and then report players we are sure they are cheating, our reports would be more accurate. But do they do that...no...too lazy and too much money to care the fat bstrds.

Then you have the stupid 5 min delay between cases...1 spibot case < 1min...wtf am I suppose to do until the next case?

We can clean this game if they provide us with the right tools.

Trust Factor is a total joke. How can you rank players on various things but not tell them what you are ranking them on then have such mismatched comp games that silvers are playing against LE+ which only leads to bogus reports of cheating which lowers TF scores? It seems the only real purpose of TF is to get you to spend more money.

[RugOp'81]

引用自 Charles Manson：

引用自 4T5：

I agree with OP, especially about the Trust Factor. It is becoming a joke and totally predictable. Try to play a game or two with people 2 ranks or more below you (skills wise) and then the next 5 to 10 games are full of cheaters, just because those noobs reported you.

And btw I am sure I also report wrongly as well (add me to those noobs) because there are so many cheaters in my games I am suspicious of everybody.

Would the have allowed for us to review the game afterwards and then report players we are sure they are cheating, our reports would be more accurate. But do they do that...no...too lazy and too much money to care the fat bstrds.

Then you have the stupid 5 min delay between cases...1 spibot case < 1min...wtf am I suppose to do until the next case?

We can clean this game if they provide us with the right tools.

Trust Factor is a total joke. How can you rank players on various things but not tell them what you are ranking them on then have such mismatched comp games that silvers are playing against LE+ which only leads to bogus reports of cheating which lowers TF scores? It seems the only real purpose of TF is to get you to spend more money.

Its really really hard isn't it ? To be a good member of the community, to be a nice player, to just behave normal, and to NOT cheat or troll in this game. Its sooo incredibly difficult ! Gaining a good reputation and enjoying the game at high trust is just a mission impossible ...............

I really hope you ppl ever figure it out how tf works (it really is not hard, just be nice) and enjoy this game at high trust, but with this attitude and negativity and most of all nonstop spamming complete nonsense i doubt you'll ever get there. You ppl make it so difficult on yourself.

[tactically malicious]

引用自 RugOp'81：

引用自 Charles Manson：

Trust Factor is a total joke. How can you rank players on various things but not tell them what you are ranking them on then have such mismatched comp games that silvers are playing against LE+ which only leads to bogus reports of cheating which lowers TF scores? It seems the only real purpose of TF is to get you to spend more money.

Its really really hard isn't it ? To be a good member of the community, to be a nice player, to just behave normal, and to NOT cheat or troll in this game. Its sooo incredibly difficult ! Gaining a good reputation and enjoying the game at high trust is just a mission impossible ...............

I really hope you ppl ever figure it out how tf works (it really is not hard, just be nice) and enjoy this game at high trust, but with this attitude and negativity and most of all nonstop spamming complete nonsense i doubt you'll ever get there. You ppl make it so difficult on yourself.

Sadly Some people are only good at complaining and not much else

It’s much easier to rage and blame the game and the system for your low trust factor than it is to behave and get a good trust factor like everyone else

Obviously complaining isn’t helping them but they do it anyway

[Shair]

Thanks captin obvius for statinh facts

[Extreme Hiding]

Vac is doing a great job.

[76561198002051860]

************Unedited version from Phone****************

Hello everyone, please excuse me for the late responses as I got caught up with urgent matters at hand recently.

Some of you may have noticed I got side tracked and got into some show match verbal 1 v 1s with the noobs for mild entertainment for the core watchers so now I will address the main topic.

Note :
TL DR will not be available. You either read this or you come back after you have finished school. There is no shortcuts on important issues. This thread is directed towards a more mature audience who actually plays the game, I would say ~5k hours mark, and THEN you have the right to speak your facts, otherwise heresay and what you see on YouTube or heard from your 16 year old 10th grader who failed the same grade twice doesn't count.

So here we go! I will address the core element once again and since this information is stored in my Steam account as well as on a public steam forum, I believe it is a good venue to share with all of you fellow CS GO players.

For 6 years now and that's generously speaking concerning the time frame, what is greatly concerning is that many influential people in the game have quietly been murmuring on the side that Valve Corporate is giving out mere drops in the bucket compared to the massive flood of wealth they have generated from their combined user base which includes everyone here even those who show delusions about the state of decay. Now this isn't any bit of surprise and the only people who can't believe are usually puddled in delusions. The same people who can hear the same news twice, and are surprised by the same facts twice.

One million $ USD prize pools. That's less than 1/10th of 1% of what Valve nets (not gross) per year. Signs of investing back into the Professional scene are as weak as if not the same as yesteryear while Valve's wealth has continued to increase in the same amount of time.
Meanwhile competition is offering higher payouts and more lucrative deals across the board. It's only a matter of time before Professional players decide what they are worth and unanimously vote towards corporate structures geared towards providing them with what they should be earning. There won't be so many sad stories about a Pasha biceps and such. Gone will the old time version of Valve holding the shop and the whip driving honest players with talent towards third party services which they have to pay to play in while earning from smaller amounts from smaller third party prize pools just so they can have a shot at attending the $1 million Major.

Glass house breaks from within with a hugely divided player base and rampant issues plaguing Valves "Official" services so it's no denying the fact this ship is going down slowly. It's not a matter of IF but rather when. This isn't gonna be the same as a major sports organization failing because eSports is a smaller community compared to say Football (Soccer), but in order for eSport to grow it will have no choice but to leave Valve and it's propped up puppets behind. ESEA and FaceIt will adapt to what's coming or be forced to become irrelevant. More and more people slowly moving out of Valve's eco system because of their upper management failure to take the warning signs seriously from within their community and from the outside as well.

Quite a shame to say the least, so much wealth in just a few hands off of other peoples hard work and unwilling to share back to a community that helped put that obscene wealth in their pocket in the first place.
This thread isn't just about the outlying surface issues people are facing. It's funny to see some of these mods trying to upsell Prime MM, something that mattered yesterday, no longer relevant now.

Wow they fixed the smoke / radar bug. One single fix that was found out months ago, and they just nerfed Astralis hours before the major.
The entire community owes themselves and each other a huge thanks for making this game community driven even if it seems like it's been held hostage by Valve. And just so everyone knows, Valve isn't the only company complicit in this. It's probably the best one out of the lot of them, which is more the reason their loyal fans will be the most disappointed because we all accept Bethesda, Dice, Activision, EA etc etc etc to misbehave in more evil ways. Not that any of us care. Their fan base wouldn't hold a candle to Valve's die hard defenders and rightfully so, Valve has done more on its own than every other Schmuck scumbag heavy hitting corporation. Where else can a community have such in depth discussions and still manage to troll each other's pants off? Valve, what a great company, doing too little too slowly. Letting the cold sore cancerous repeat offenders just abuse a system created in good faith day in and day out. Valve upper management needs to start behaving like they can own up to a responsibility long owed their community, before the resulting fragmentation leaves little of desire good for anybody. Let go of the non chalant free to do as they please attitude and grind down into your games to see what is happening in your communities. There no place else where users can air their grievances hammering on the company that gives us both greatness and sadness all at once, without even a phone number in 2019 just for us to be able to call and say "Hey, great job today! Can we also get some info on so and so please?"
We the users are the internal review system. Valve management must not fail or we won't have these freedoms to post about how that VAC ban really feels. No other company allows the freedom Valve offers.

Much love to Valve but please get involved ffs. Your users don't want to go anywhere else, they'll be banned well before they even have a chance to warm up their freeze peach. Their privacy stolen and monetized to the nth degree. We love you Valve, start by firing Gabe for he has taken the loot and left us.

So while this entire post may initially have appeared to be the usual attack on Valve, it isn't. It's the opposite. It's a friend, a loyal Steam member who has been there since before Steam was a thing, with perhaps over 20k++ hours training and honing skills in Counter Strike, saying Wake Up, you are lagging and you can't let EA catch up to you. And I am not even a gamer. I literally can't play any other game with the same confidence and skillset that I employ in CS.

Despite the fun 1 v 1s I had here with some users, they should know they are all our brothers and in the same boat. God bless all of you.

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***Written on my phone so please excuse any grammatical / sp errors and such. What's important is we understand the content. I am sure there can be a great discussion but I may not have all the time to address everything and might have even missed a lot of good points which I am sure others will contribute towards.

[f1ed]

引用自 Brut：

************Unedited version from Phone****************

Hello everyone, please excuse me for the late responses as I got caught up with urgent matters at hand recently.

Some of you may have noticed I got side tracked and got into some show match verbal 1 v 1s with the noobs for mild entertainment for the core watchers so now I will address the main topic.

Note :
TL DR will not be available. You either read this or you come back after you have finished school. There is no shortcuts on important issues. This thread is directed towards a more mature audience who actually plays the game, I would say ~5k hours mark, and THEN you have the right to speak your facts, otherwise heresay and what you see on YouTube or heard from your 16 year old 10th grader who failed the same grade twice doesn't count.

So here we go! I will address the core element once again and since this information is stored in my Steam account as well as on a public steam forum, I believe it is a good venue to share with all of you fellow CS GO players.

For 6 years now and that's generously speaking concerning the time frame, what is greatly concerning is that many influential people in the game have quietly been murmuring on the side that Valve Corporate is giving out mere drops in the bucket compared to the massive flood of wealth they have generated from their combined user base which includes everyone here even those who show delusions about the state of decay. Now this isn't any bit of surprise and the only people who can't believe are usually puddled in delusions. The same people who can hear the same news twice, and are surprised by the same facts twice.

One million $ USD prize pools. That's less than 1/10th of 1% of what Valve nets (not gross) per year. Signs of investing back into the Professional scene are as weak as if not the same as yesteryear while Valve's wealth has continued to increase in the same amount of time.
Meanwhile competition is offering higher payouts and more lucrative deals across the board. It's only a matter of time before Professional players decide what they are worth and unanimously vote towards corporate structures geared towards providing them with what they should be earning. There won't be so many sad stories about a Pasha biceps and such. Gone will the old time version of Valve holding the shop and the whip driving honest players with talent towards third party services which they have to pay to play in while earning from smaller amounts from smaller third party prize pools just so they can have a shot at attending the $1 million Major.

Glass house breaks from within with a hugely divided player base and rampant issues plaguing Valves "Official" services so it's no denying the fact this ship is going down slowly. It's not a matter of IF but rather when. This isn't gonna be the same as a major sports organization failing because eSports is a smaller community compared to say Football (Soccer), but in order for eSport to grow it will have no choice but to leave Valve and it's propped up puppets behind. ESEA and FaceIt will adapt to what's coming or be forced to become irrelevant. More and more people slowly moving out of Valve's eco system because of their upper management failure to take the warning signs seriously from within their community and from the outside as well.

Quite a shame to say the least, so much wealth in just a few hands off of other peoples hard work and unwilling to share back to a community that helped put that obscene wealth in their pocket in the first place.
This thread isn't just about the outlying surface issues people are facing. It's funny to see some of these mods trying to upsell Prime MM, something that mattered yesterday, no longer relevant now.

Wow they fixed the smoke / radar bug. One single fix that was found out months ago, and they just nerfed Astralis hours before the major.
The entire community owes themselves and each other a huge thanks for making this game community driven even if it seems like it's been held hostage by Valve. And just so everyone knows, Valve isn't the only company complicit in this. It's probably the best one out of the lot of them, which is more the reason their loyal fans will be the most disappointed because we all accept Bethesda, Dice, Activision, EA etc etc etc to misbehave in more evil ways. Not that any of us care. Their fan base wouldn't hold a candle to Valve's die hard defenders and rightfully so, Valve has done more on its own than every other Schmuck scumbag heavy hitting corporation. Where else can a community have such in depth discussions and still manage to troll each other's pants off? Valve, what a great company, doing too little too slowly. Letting the cold sore cancerous repeat offenders just abuse a system created in good faith day in and day out. Valve upper management needs to start behaving like they can own up to a responsibility long owed their community, before the resulting fragmentation leaves little of desire good for anybody. Let go of the non chalant free to do as they please attitude and grind down into your games to see what is happening in your communities. There no place else where users can air their grievances hammering on the company that gives us both greatness and sadness all at once, without even a phone number in 2019 just for us to be able to call and say "Hey, great job today! Can we also get some info on so and so please?"
We the users are the internal review system. Valve management must not fail or we won't have these freedoms to post about how that VAC ban really feels. No other company allows the freedom Valve offers.

Much love to Valve but please get involved ffs. Your users don't want to go anywhere else, they'll be banned well before they even have a chance to warm up their freeze peach. Their privacy stolen and monetized to the nth degree. We love you Valve, start by firing Gabe for he has taken the loot and left us.

So while this entire post may initially have appeared to be the usual attack on Valve, it isn't. It's the opposite. It's a friend, a loyal Steam member who has been there since before Steam was a thing, with perhaps over 20k++ hours training and honing skills in Counter Strike, saying Wake Up, you are lagging and you can't let EA catch up to you. And I am not even a gamer. I literally can't play any other game with the same confidence and skillset that I employ in CS.

Despite the fun 1 v 1s I had here with some users, they should know they are all our brothers and in the same boat. God bless all of you.

**********************************************************************************************************
***Written on my phone so please excuse any grammatical / sp errors and such. What's important is we understand the content. I am sure there can be a great discussion but I may not have all the time to address everything and might have even missed a lot of good points which I am sure others will contribute towards.

There are MANY things that you've said here that straight up make no sense at all.

First, lets start with the prize pools. The $1,000,000 tournaments Valve run are actually higher up for this game. There's only 1 other tournament (WESG) that has that big a pool. If you're comparing it to other games, look at their popularity / distribution. The games with better payouts are either A. More popular (Dota 2, LoL, etc.) or B. Have a TON more players to distribute the money across (PUBG, Fortnite, etc.).

The next 2 paragraphs after that were just ranting nonsense. The "They have to leave Valve behind" bit makes no sense, as two of the biggest games in eSports are owned by Valve.

Yes, they fixed the bug before the major. They also fix other bugs when they're found and the fix is found (mainly once they can fix it).

The main thing I think you're getting towards, which I will agree with you about, is that they give FAR more attention to Dota 2 than to CS:GO.

[❌Singhal Sahb❌]

i agree but valve dosent give a . f u c k about the people playing or wasting their time on them :(

[76561198836720860]

引用自 kitty soft paws：

引用自 Hickok😋：

That's why I am following it. Not some idiotic thread like " rate my cute inventory" or " name my cute knife".

It’s just another rage complaint thread

While you waste your time complaining here the majority of the tens of millions players are enjoying the game

You are the most cringe guy in this thread. Stop commenting and stop embarrassing yourself.
How do you know millions of player enjoying? See the vac ban in last month. Over millions. 1 cheater ruin the fun for 9 people. Thats means over 9 millions people fun has been ruined last month. How many games that's has been deleted and how many hours has been wasted ? People are enjoying. Nice joke.

[Death Star]

Finally someone that sees reality... and unfortunately it’s worse than that... That number escalates if every cheater banned has played more than 1 game before getting banned.. Imagine if this hypothetical cheater was banned after 1,2 or 6 months... how many games has ruined?The number becomes times N. And we, legitimate players, are the victims... We are the ones that have to navigate through this ocean of ♥♥♥♥ just because we love playing this game... And then some kid ( yes kid or someone with the same brain capacity) gets to tell us that we are wrong and we are just complaining and crying over a videogame? We paid good money for all the pixels (skins) we buy.. I personally paid to play this videogame twice( 2 accounts) .. Valve’s employees and members of the board are making a living off our ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ money we have ALL THE RIGHT TO COMPLAIN!!! We are unsatisfied customers and we need this company to listen for once. We should make a stand and stop buying games and skins .. we should stop the flow of money going into their pockets.

引用自 Buck：

引用自 kitty soft paws：

It’s just another rage complaint thread

While you waste your time complaining here the majority of the tens of millions players are enjoying the game

You are the most cringe guy in this thread. Stop commenting and stop embarrassing yourself.
How do you know millions of player enjoying? See the vac ban in last month. Over millions. 1 cheater ruin the fun for 9 people. Thats means over 9 millions people fun has been ruined last month. How many games that's has been deleted and how many hours has been wasted ? People are enjoying. Nice joke.

[Death Star]

Even if they do what is stopping a closet cheater to play in the tournament? VAC? Lol 😂

引用自 SMUCKEY：

Did anybody see anny tournaments organised by valve ? to promote new talents and skills? when you see to tell me too . Unfortunately they only care about their personal interest and we have nothing to win. Until we get to grips with it, they have already satisfied all their interests. Take some crumbs to the servants