fast ways to derank on Faceit

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hey, so I currently have about 460 hours , and I'm silver 3.I don't play like silver 3 , my actual skill level is around GN1, but because of many factors such as bad teammates, or teammates who only speak in their native language, cheaters, bad days in which I feel like I'm meant to miss and I can't play in any way ,and very little friends who still play CSGO , i'm stuck here.A lot of persons recommended Faceit, but here's the problem :between december 2017 - september 2018 I took a pause from CSGO.And before that, I only played Faceit in around September 2017,and skil levels were different.I got skill level 4, and I haven't really played Faceit since.Now I tried it again , but the thing is players in skill level 4 are much more experienced than I remember,and every single one of them plays better than me.How can I derank faster : by leaving matches or by playing them and doing a bad score?I don't wanna stay long here, cuz I honestly feel bad for the players that wanna actually play with a good team and rankup on faceit, then run into a silver guy stuck in sk lvl 4.

[RugOp'81]

"fastest way to derank" ?? ...hmm, just play as you normally do ?!

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Originally posted by RugOp'81:

"fastest way to derank" ?? ...hmm, just play as you normally do ?!

that'd be a way, but I thought that maybe leaving matches would derank me faster.Afterall , in that skill level it's not much of a difference between me and a bot xD

[Orpheus]

Originally posted by RugOp'81:

"fastest way to derank" ?? ...hmm, just play as you normally do ?!

Yea, that's how most people do it lol.

[wi wi wi]

so if i literally just play bad i can derank of faceit? even if we win the games? because even tho i play bad my team still seems to win the games so can i still derank if i play bad if my team wins the games or not?

[Bergman]

Originally posted by MattPPhoenix:

so if i literally just play bad i can derank of faceit? even if we win the games? because even tho i play bad my team still seems to win the games so can i still derank if i play bad if my team wins the games or not?

Avoid MVP´s

[Muerte]

Originally posted by AnD0:

Maybe get the hell out of FaceIt. For years FaceIt was a place where people went if they didn't want to meet cheaters / griefers / derankers / toxic kids.
Seems like since F2P update FaceIt become a second MM if you don't pay for Premium.
If you are even able to THINK about purposeful throwing on FaceIt, then stop playing it. Players don't need you there.

Well said....

[76561198228869152]

Originally posted by AnD0:

Maybe get the hell out of FaceIt. For years FaceIt was a place where people went if they didn't want to meet cheaters / griefers / derankers / toxic kids.
Seems like since F2P update FaceIt become a second MM if you don't pay for Premium.
If you are even able to THINK about purposeful throwing on FaceIt, then stop playing it. Players don't need you there.

[Hamsterpeek]

Originally posted by SoF Bergman:

Originally posted by MattPPhoenix:

so if i literally just play bad i can derank of faceit? even if we win the games? because even tho i play bad my team still seems to win the games so can i still derank if i play bad if my team wins the games or not?

Avoid MVP´s

Faceit has nothing to do with mvps.


The ranking system in faceit is way easier:

-> The Basic elo you earn or lose for a win/lose is 25.
-> The basic elo you earn or lose will increase or decrease depending on how many elo points your - and the enemy team has - each combined(so individual elo isn't important).

So when you play with 5 people each 1000 points, you've 5k points. When the enemy team has 4 with 1000 and 1 with 1.5k points, they've 5,5k points.
That means when you win you'll get 25+bonus points and when you lose you'll lose 25+bonuspoints. In that case you'll probably win 25+2 points, and when you lose you'd lose 23 points (25-2).

Individual statistics, round wins, mvps, .... - everything doesn't matter. All what matters is that you win or lose (draws don't exist, there is overtime).

So. When you wanna derank the ONLY way to do so is losing more than winning. You can increase the speed of losing elo when your team loses against lower ranked teams because you'll then lose 25 points + bonus points. It's possible to lose 40 points at max each game - but keep in mind that your and the enemies team is most likely equal in terms of team-elo and when you for example queue as a level 10 player with a level 1 player, your teammates and enemies will most likely be in the middle, which means: Level 5. So even then you most likely only lose 25~ points.

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Originally posted by AnD0:

Maybe get the hell out of FaceIt. For years FaceIt was a place where people went if they didn't want to meet cheaters / griefers / derankers / toxic kids.
Seems like since F2P update FaceIt become a second MM if you don't pay for Premium.
If you are even able to THINK about purposeful throwing on FaceIt, then stop playing it. Players don't need you there.

True. And you'll get banned for griefing in Faceit way faster. One single report with timetable and demo is enough in order to get you banned for bad language or bad playing. Toxicity and throwing will get you banned very fast. So - yes. Don't lose elo on purpose.

And another thing for OP:
No, people on level 4 aren't more experienced. The ranking system in faceit is even worse than the matchmaking ranking system is since it's based on farming. You can farm to level 10. So ignore the ranks, as you should do in matchmaking.

[Bergman]

Originally posted by Ray:

Originally posted by SoF Bergman:

Avoid MVP´s

Faceit has nothing to do with mvps.


The ranking system in faceit is way easier:

-> The Basic elo you earn or lose for a win/lose is 25.
-> The basic elo you earn or lose will increase or decrease depending on many elo points your - and the enemy team has - each combined.

So when you play with 5 people each 1000 points, you've 5k points. When the enemy team has 4 with 1000 and 1 with 1.5k points, they've 5,5k points.
That means when you win you'll get 25+bonus points and when you lose you'll lose 25+bonuspoints. In that case you'll probably win 25+2 points, and when you lose you'd lose 23 points (25-2).

Individual statistics, round wins, mvps, .... - everything doesn't matter. All what matters is that you win or lose (draws don't exist, there is overtime).

So. When you wanna derank the ONLY way to do so is losing more than winning. You can increase the speed of losing elo when your team loses against lower ranked teams because you'll then lose 25 points + bonus points. It's possible to lose 40 points at max each game - but keep in mind that your and the enemies team is most likely equal in terms of team-elo and when you for example queue as a level 10 player with a level 1 player, your teammates and enemies will most likely be in the middle, which means: Level 5. So even then you most likely only lose 25~ points.

Ok,thank you.
(BTH: Faceit ranking doesn´t sound so much better than normal MM anymore)

[Hamsterpeek]

Originally posted by SoF Bergman:

Originally posted by Ray:

Faceit has nothing to do with mvps.


The ranking system in faceit is way easier:

-> The Basic elo you earn or lose for a win/lose is 25.
-> The basic elo you earn or lose will increase or decrease depending on many elo points your - and the enemy team has - each combined.

So when you play with 5 people each 1000 points, you've 5k points. When the enemy team has 4 with 1000 and 1 with 1.5k points, they've 5,5k points.
That means when you win you'll get 25+bonus points and when you lose you'll lose 25+bonuspoints. In that case you'll probably win 25+2 points, and when you lose you'd lose 23 points (25-2).

Individual statistics, round wins, mvps, .... - everything doesn't matter. All what matters is that you win or lose (draws don't exist, there is overtime).

So. When you wanna derank the ONLY way to do so is losing more than winning. You can increase the speed of losing elo when your team loses against lower ranked teams because you'll then lose 25 points + bonus points. It's possible to lose 40 points at max each game - but keep in mind that your and the enemies team is most likely equal in terms of team-elo and when you for example queue as a level 10 player with a level 1 player, your teammates and enemies will most likely be in the middle, which means: Level 5. So even then you most likely only lose 25~ points.

Ok,thank you.
(BTH: Faceit ranking doesn´t sound so much better than normal MM anymore)

You're welcome and you're right. While we know less about the mm ranking system it's still a bit better. Faceit's way was the easiest one for them to calculate, but the worst one for pugging because it doesn't reward individual skill and doesn't reward games where one team lost, but still managed to get a good amount of rounds.

But to be fair: Every pugging ranking system has flaws and even the teamrankings in many leagues aren't good. For example I had games in the electronic sports league where my team would gain 0 (!) points for winning 16:0 and when we only lost one round we'd even get minus-points. That happens when you've many points and your enemy team has way less points.

So it's hard to find a good system to be honest.

[dead man]

no. you are silver and you are not better than that. I might just told you why but im in cs comp rn and dont wanna make a big ass discussion.