Stutters/Lag/Freezing on Linux

[adriel]

My game stutters and lags, occasionally freezing.

I searched how to fix it; in properties, verify integrity of game files.
I did that, one file was corrupt and would be fixed.

Fixed stutters for a short period of time, but the next day when i go to play, just as bad as before.

Help!

[hvhtt]

Do you have everything updated on drives?

[adriel]

Originally posted by þiċãηtємeisteR™ ♿ ♿:

Do you have everything updated on drives?

Are my drivers updated? Yessir.
Is csgo up to date? Yessir.

[Hal-ium]

This appears to be a widespread problem on linux with csgo currently. I'm experiencing the same issues across multiple distros (should note they're all debian based). I have a Radeon VII on watercooling, it matches or outperforms the 2080 non-ti in every game I have tested. At 720p minimum settings I see around 160 FPS and the game turns into a slideshow any time someone starts shooting.

Every other Source Engine game I have has never given me any issues. TF2, L4D2, Portal 2, HL2 + Episode 2, and Dota 2 (Source 2 Engine) all run perfectly at 4k high or maximum settings, never stuttering or dropping below 100 FPS. Every non-Source game I have runs just as well as it would with windows on this hardware. That includes windows-only games running on the Wine compatibility layer or Valve's version of it, Proton. For instance: DOOM 2016 (windows only) runs at 4k ultra well over 100 FPS, buttery smooth. CSGO is currently the only game I've experienced issues with.

I don't have these issues on my Nvidia-based laptop (Quadro K1100m, equivalent to a GTX 470), or my older Radeon RX 580. I don't think this is a driver issue because both the RX 580 and RadVII use the same AMDGPU driver stack, and when I go from 720p low settings to 4k max I barely lose 10% FPS on the RadVII. No idea what's going on since I only get these issues on one GPU out of 3 I've tried.

It's not a CPU issue; swapping GPUs fixed it for me, but FWIW I'm on a Ryzen 2700x at 3.95Ghz all-core with 32GB DDR4 3600CL16 ram, tightened timings. I believe this is an issue on CSGO's side, not with the linux driver stack.

[Hal-ium]

Originally posted by Leg:

My game stutters and lags, occasionally freezing.

I searched how to fix it; in properties, verify integrity of game files.
I did that, one file was corrupt and would be fixed.

Fixed stutters for a short period of time, but the next day when i go to play, just as bad as before.

Help!

Can you post all of your hardware specs, and what distro you're using including what DE it uses? The easiest method is probably 'sudo inxi -Fx' and if that doesn't work then install the package 'inxi' first. I deleted the drive and partition tables from my readout because my desktop doubles as a NAS so it was a very long list.

System: Host: debian-hal Kernel: 5.4.0-4-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 9.2.1 Console: tty 0
Distro: Debian GNU/Linux bullseye/sid
Machine: Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: X470 AORUS GAMING 7 WIFI v: N/A serial: N/A
Mobo: Gigabyte model: X470 AORUS GAMING 7 WIFI-CF v: x.x serial: N/A UEFI [Legacy]: American Megatrends v: F3
date: 03/14/2018
CPU: Topology: 8-Core model: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen+ rev: 2 L2 cache: 4096 KiB
flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm bogomips: 118400
Speed: 2068 MHz min/max: 2200/3950 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2006 2: 2107 3: 1888 4: 1897 5: 2014 6: 2024 7: 2201
8: 2198 9: 1899 10: 1894 11: 1969 12: 2102 13: 2200 14: 2199 15: 2050 16: 2009
Graphics: Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Vega 20 [Radeon VII] driver: amdgpu v: kernel bus ID: 0c:00.0
Display: server: X.Org 1.20.7 driver: amdgpu FAILED: ati unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,radeon,vesa
resolution: 3840x2160~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: AMD Radeon VII (VEGA20 DRM 3.35.0 5.4.0-4-amd64 LLVM 9.0.1) v: 4.5 Mesa 19.3.3 direct render: Yes
Audio: Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Vega 20 HDMI Audio [Radeon VII] driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
bus ID: 0c:00.1
Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 17h HD Audio vendor: Gigabyte driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
bus ID: 0e:00.3
Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.4.0-4-amd64
Network: Device-1: Intel I211 Gigabit Network vendor: Gigabyte driver: igb v: 5.6.0-k port: f000 bus ID: 06:00.0
IF: enp6s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: e0:d5:5e:a6:0f:88
Device-2: Intel Wireless-AC 9260 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel port: f000 bus ID: 07:00.0
IF: wlp7s0 state: up mac: 94:b8:6d:3a:0f:70
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 40.2 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 40 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: amdgpu fan: 822
Info: Processes: 348 Uptime: 4h 33m Memory: 31.65 GiB used: 3.35 GiB (10.5%) Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Compilers:
gcc: 9.2.1 Shell: bash v: 5.0.11 inxi: 3.0.37

[adriel]

Originally posted by Hal-ium:

Originally posted by Leg:

My game stutters and lags, occasionally freezing.

I searched how to fix it; in properties, verify integrity of game files.
I did that, one file was corrupt and would be fixed.

Fixed stutters for a short period of time, but the next day when i go to play, just as bad as before.

Help!

Can you post all of your hardware specs, and what distro you're using including what DE it uses? The easiest method is probably 'sudo inxi -Fx' and if that doesn't work then install the package 'inxi' first. I deleted the drive and partition tables from my readout because my desktop doubles as a NAS so it was a very long list.

System: Host: debian-hal Kernel: 5.4.0-4-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 9.2.1 Console: tty 0
Distro: Debian GNU/Linux bullseye/sid
Machine: Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: X470 AORUS GAMING 7 WIFI v: N/A serial: N/A
Mobo: Gigabyte model: X470 AORUS GAMING 7 WIFI-CF v: x.x serial: N/A UEFI [Legacy]: American Megatrends v: F3
date: 03/14/2018
CPU: Topology: 8-Core model: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen+ rev: 2 L2 cache: 4096 KiB
flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm bogomips: 118400
Speed: 2068 MHz min/max: 2200/3950 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2006 2: 2107 3: 1888 4: 1897 5: 2014 6: 2024 7: 2201
8: 2198 9: 1899 10: 1894 11: 1969 12: 2102 13: 2200 14: 2199 15: 2050 16: 2009
Graphics: Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Vega 20 [Radeon VII] driver: amdgpu v: kernel bus ID: 0c:00.0
Display: server: X.Org 1.20.7 driver: amdgpu FAILED: ati unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,radeon,vesa
resolution: 3840x2160~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: AMD Radeon VII (VEGA20 DRM 3.35.0 5.4.0-4-amd64 LLVM 9.0.1) v: 4.5 Mesa 19.3.3 direct render: Yes
Audio: Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Vega 20 HDMI Audio [Radeon VII] driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
bus ID: 0c:00.1
Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 17h HD Audio vendor: Gigabyte driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
bus ID: 0e:00.3
Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.4.0-4-amd64
Network: Device-1: Intel I211 Gigabit Network vendor: Gigabyte driver: igb v: 5.6.0-k port: f000 bus ID: 06:00.0
IF: enp6s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: e0:d5:5e:a6:0f:88
Device-2: Intel Wireless-AC 9260 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel port: f000 bus ID: 07:00.0
IF: wlp7s0 state: up mac: 94:b8:6d:3a:0f:70
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 40.2 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 40 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: amdgpu fan: 822
Info: Processes: 348 Uptime: 4h 33m Memory: 31.65 GiB used: 3.35 GiB (10.5%) Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Compilers:
gcc: 9.2.1 Shell: bash v: 5.0.11 inxi: 3.0.37

i use plain ubuntu.
AMD Ryzen 3 2200G
MSI b450 motherboard
8gb 2666MHz
SATA III ssd 128gb
$300 dollar pc, 1080p medium 100+fps

[SpongeBooz]

its valve servers fault, im having high VAR for no reason too

[the_jACK_Ripper]

the lag stutter is across platforms. i experienced it for a while and installed on windows and it was still there. it is more than likely the servers that are causing the stuttering.

[Hal-ium]

Originally posted by ΞXCLUSIVE:

its valve servers fault, im having high VAR for no reason too

Originally posted by the_jACK_Ripper:

the lag stutter is across platforms. i experienced it for a while and installed on windows and it was still there. it is more than likely the servers that are causing the stuttering.

I don't think you understand what we mean when we say stutter. We aren't talking about network lag or latency (i.e. ping), what we mean is that the entire game freezes completely. In my case I experience these frame drops even in menus. I also experience the exact same issues when playing OFFLINE. It absolutely is not a server issue.

Edit: And if you took the time to read my first post, you would see I only get this issue on specific hardware, even only on one specific GPU. My laptop is severely underpowered but it doesn't have these problems. Somewhat paradoxically, replacing my high end GPU with an older and much less powerful version which uses the same drivers I don't have any freezes and get significantly more FPS.

[the_jACK_Ripper]

do you know how many servers valve has? a lot. 56 centers for sdr, probably more, 484 single ip addresses for relays and 56 class c subnets. thats 56 * 256, and that doesnt include the range of ports they are operating off of. There is always a limit to things. Is it really valve? I dont know man

ITS ALWAYS SOMETHING.

It honestly irritates me too, and i have other theories, but i wont discuss those.

but for real its the servers, if you are on linux and such a wizard mr potter, then install the server, play on your own server and you will see you dont lag anymore or glitch out.

[Hal-ium]

Originally posted by the_jACK_Ripper:

do you know how many servers valve has? a lot. 56 centers for sdr, probably more, 484 single ip addresses for relays and 56 class c subnets. thats 56 * 256, and that doesnt include the range of ports they are operating off of. There is always a limit to things. Is it really valve? I dont know man

ITS ALWAYS SOMETHING.

It honestly irritates me too, and i have other theories, but i wont discuss those.

but for real its the servers, if you are on linux and such a wizard mr potter, then install the server, play on your own server and you will see you dont lag anymore or glitch out.

I literally told you, I already tried that and still have issues. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT NETWORK LAG. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FRAMERATES. A SERVER BEING SLOW DOES NOT REDUCE CLIENT SIDE FRAMERATES. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SERVERS. THIS IS A PROBLEM SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THE GAME ENGINE AND THE GRAPHICS DRIVERS. THIS IS NOT A SERVER-SIDE ISSUE. THIS IS A CLIENT-SIDE ISSUE. I HAVE TO USE CAPS LOCK SO THAT YOU WILL UNDERSTAND. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SERVER LATENCY. LOCAL SERVERS DO NOT FIX THE PROBLEM. PLAYING OFFLINE DOES NOT FIX THE PROBLEM. THIS IS NOT A SERVER-SIDE PROBLEM. THIS IS A CLIENT-SIDE ISSUE.

[HaŦŦrick ✓ 🛠 🗽]

Windows Gaming: like driving a car off a lot. just buy and drive.

Mac Gaming: [this area left intentionally blank]

Linux Gaming: like building your own car, in a cold garage, by yourself.

[Hal-ium]

Originally posted by HaŦŦrick ✓ ☣☢☠:

Windows Gaming: like driving a car off a lot. just buy and drive.

Mac Gaming: [this area left intentionally blank]

Linux Gaming: like building your own car, in a cold garage, by yourself.

Ha ha, funny joke. The only problem is it stopped being true almost 2 years ago. I like lists, so I'll make one for you:
Deus Ex Human Revolution? Windows only, works fine on Linux
The entire S.T.A.L.K.E.R. series? Windows only, works fine on Linux
Subnautica? Windows only, works fine on Linux
Bioshock 1 and 2? Windows only, work fine on Linux (3 is native)
Metro Exodus? Windows only, works fine on Linux
Risk of Rain? Windows only, works fine on Linux
Risk of Rain 2? Windows only, works fine on Linux
Sniper Elite? Windows only, works fine on Linux
Sniper Elite 2? Windows only, works fine on Linux
Sniper Elite 3? Windows only, works fine on Linux
System Shock 2? Windows only, doesn't even work properly on any Windows newer than XP, and yet works fine on Linux (This is extremely common for XP era and older games, the OG DOOM and Deus Ex 1 are 2 more examples of games that run very poorly on windows but fine on Linux.)
The Witcher 3? Windows only, works fine on Linux
CS:GO? Has a linux port, doesn't work properly on Linux, likely the fault of the developers. So far CS:GO is the ONLY game I have had any trouble with at all.

If you don't have any meaningful input to fix the problem, can you please just not post anything? You aren't funny, you just waste others' time. That goes for everyone who wants to ignorantly rag on an operating system they've never intentionally used, despite relying entirely upon it for most of their lives without ever realizing.

Plainly put, if you don't use linux then don't post.

[HaŦŦrick ✓ 🛠 🗽]

Originally posted by Hal-ium:

Originally posted by HaŦŦrick ✓ ☣☢☠:

Windows Gaming: like driving a car off a lot. just buy and drive.

Mac Gaming: [this area left intentionally blank]

Linux Gaming: like building your own car, in a cold garage, by yourself.

Ha ha, funny joke. The only problem is it stopped being true almost 2 years ago. I like lists, so I'll make one for you:
Deus Ex Human Revolution? Windows only, works fine on Linux
The entire S.T.A.L.K.E.R. series? Windows only, works fine on Linux
Subnautica? Windows only, works fine on Linux
Bioshock 1 and 2? Windows only, work fine on Linux (3 is native)
Metro Exodus? Windows only, works fine on Linux
Risk of Rain? Windows only, works fine on Linux
Risk of Rain 2? Windows only, works fine on Linux
Sniper Elite? Windows only, works fine on Linux
Sniper Elite 2? Windows only, works fine on Linux
Sniper Elite 3? Windows only, works fine on Linux
System Shock 2? Windows only, doesn't even work properly on any Windows newer than XP, and yet works fine on Linux (This is extremely common for XP era and older games, the OG DOOM and Deus Ex 1 are 2 more examples of games that run very poorly on windows but fine on Linux.)
The Witcher 3? Windows only, works fine on Linux
CS:GO? Has a linux port, doesn't work properly on Linux, likely the fault of the developers. So far CS:GO is the ONLY game I have had any trouble with at all.

If you don't have any meaningful input to fix the problem, can you please just not post anything? You aren't funny, you just waste others' time. That goes for everyone who wants to ignorantly rag on an operating system they've never intentionally used, despite relying entirely upon it for most of their lives without ever realizing.

Plainly put, if you don't use linux then don't post.

chill. it's a fps gaming forum. we shoot at each other. you dont have to be so sensitive. GL HF!!!

[Hal-ium]

I guess I get a little touchy because literally every linux support thread for any game ends up with at least some person taking jabs at linux without ever having worked with it to understand it. I don't go into every support thread I find and make fun of windows users despite the fact that there is a litany of issues people only experience on Microsoft's OS, none the least of which being problems caused by forced updates. If people were to go around constantly telling you to install linux to fix a problem with a game, would you not tell them to ♥♥♥♥ off? It doesn't matter if the person bothering you is doing it as a joke, it's still unpleasant and obnoxious.

[HaŦŦrick ✓ 🛠 🗽]

Originally posted by Hal-ium:

I guess I get a little touchy because literally every linux support thread for any game ends up with at least some person taking jabs at linux without ever having worked with it to understand it. I don't go into every support thread I find and make fun of windows users despite the fact that there is a litany of issues people only experience on Microsoft's OS, none the least of which being problems caused by forced updates. If people were to go around constantly telling you to install linux to fix a problem with a game, would you not tell them to ♥♥♥♥ off? It doesn't matter if the person bothering you is doing it as a joke, it's still unpleasant and obnoxious.

since your issue ISNT csgo. its running csgo on Linux. post there.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/