Counter-Strike 2

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WingDings Feb 12, 2020 @ 3:25pm
Give me an option to not get teamed up with 4 premades.
To this date i have been matched as the lone random player with 4 premades in my team. I hate it.
1. You're lucky if you're included in the voicechat or given any information.
2. Do they decide to start ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ around at kill you, you are stuck in a game getting team killed at least 8 times before they stop or anything happens to them.
3. If they do decide to use voicechat it's often to complain or annoy you so they look cool in front of their friends.

I can easily say that my worst experiences with CSGO has been ending up in these games as the 1 random in a team of premades. I'm am stuck there for at least 30 min unless i decide to take a ban which again means i am stuck not being able to play for 30 or more, or i can try to make them kick me, which would mean i would have to act like an ass an give info to the enemy or teamkill, i don't want to do that. It feels like i'm held hostage in these games.
It can't be hard to give me a button that says "don't get matched with premade groups of 4"

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M.Y. Feb 12, 2020 @ 3:33pm 
play with premades yourself:)
WingDings Feb 12, 2020 @ 3:37pm 
don't see why i shoulden't be allowed to play solo without having my experienced ruined by 4 premades
Scrub Feb 12, 2020 @ 3:38pm 
Originally posted by Emil:
don't see why i shoulden't be allowed to play solo without having my experienced ruined by 4 premades
I don't see why solo people can ruin this team-based game :/
WingDings Feb 12, 2020 @ 3:40pm 
Originally posted by doc:
Originally posted by Emil:
don't see why i shoulden't be allowed to play solo without having my experienced ruined by 4 premades
I don't see why solo people can ruin this team-based game :/
I'm sorry man but you're gonna have to actually say something that makes sense.
WingDings Feb 12, 2020 @ 3:43pm 
Unless you're saying that you shoulden't be able to que as solo at all, which is a pretty dumb thing to say.
Scrub Feb 12, 2020 @ 3:44pm 
Originally posted by Emil:
Originally posted by doc:
I don't see why solo people can ruin this team-based game :/
I'm sorry man but you're gonna have to actually say something that makes sense.
Bring teammates to a team-based game.

It's impossible to design a system that's going to be able to detect between "these 4 people kicked you because you're miserable to play with" and "these 4 people kicked you because they're awful jerks".

And so you want a button that will basically cut out any soloQ from matching up with any 4-stack and that's just a... weird line to draw there. It sucks to get kicked by a group who just wants to troll but they already will get put on a competitive cooldown if they kick too many people.
WingDings Feb 12, 2020 @ 3:49pm 
It really isn't, pretty much every battle royale game does this, including the battle royale cs has. There you have the option to que alone or get teamed with a random. This is the same concept. Decide if you want to be able to get teamed with 4 premades or exclude those games from your search.

If they don't already know that it's only 4 premades queing and not 5 how are they able to only add 1 more and not accidentally 2 or 3.

And again, saying that you have to be more than one to even que is just an ignorant thing to say.
Jaqlgems Feb 12, 2020 @ 4:05pm 
Originally posted by Emil:
don't see why i shoulden't be allowed to play solo without having my experienced ruined by 4 premades


the reality is "solo" Q is the middle child in a pyramid scheme that is the rank structure.

You cheat, get carried or smurf boost out of silver/nova etc.

Thats how a pyramid operation works. Like the first few people to get LMG do a fraction of the work that everyone after has to do. Much like Avon, the first few sell a few things and before you know it the people after are stuck having to ship tens of thousands of the same products for the same "Result."

Keeping a certain demographic "frozen" at silver/nova levels ensures the artificial scarcity of "rank" when in reality most people hover at the same spot in a bell curve with a few outliers/offshoots.

Solo Q is one of those groups that's tossed in there with it, it's quite simple to match team's to teams. Or insulate the lone solo from being vote kicked after second half/requesting to not be a part of it.

It being a team game is fine, but when someone offer's you "Solo" experience then fails to deliver the promised form of game that is just simply incompetence or someone reinforcing the pyramid of "rank" so many player's "covet" despite never noticing how similar everyone does regardless of rank. It just boils down to a predatory business practice.

Like Valve's "Lootbox gambling" there "skin tradeup gambling" removing spray paint/model options for t's/c'ts. No flashlights NV etc..Then asking you to pay for them to get them back.

Predatory business practice is what most companies confuse for "Good business" simply because they are not yet accountable to the people they are cheating. There isn't a reason that you or anyone deserves to be ousted from a lobby you worked in because 3-4 angry pre-teens/teens have low T and mum didn't de-crust their sandwhiches that day.
Last edited by Jaqlgems; Feb 12, 2020 @ 4:06pm
Jaqlgems Feb 12, 2020 @ 4:20pm 
Originally posted by Champ:
I got queued with a 4 premade team, ranked up as top frag
I got queued with 4 randoms, deranked

It isn't a universal bad or good thing. I just share similar concerns to the OP. If I have the option to get people together and have a team advantage over randoms. Then people ought be able to opt out if they choose from playing with people with such a massive advantage.

If anyone cared about legit gaming anyways. Naturally with cs_go being "HvH" in many instances that clearly isn't the case. More so the Op seems to want the option to wait a little longer and not be at the mercy of pre-pubescent dweebs who seem to let their ego's do the talking online instead of their brains.
Hamsterpeek Feb 12, 2020 @ 4:21pm 
Your acc is 16 years old. You have more than 3000 hours in csgo. And yet you only have 42 friends and play solo? You should be old and experienced enough and have the social skills to make friends and play with them.
Jaqlgems Feb 12, 2020 @ 4:25pm 
Originally posted by RaimaNd:
Your acc is 16 years old. You have more than 3000 hours in csgo. And yet you only have 42 friends and play solo? You should be old and experienced enough and have the social skills to make friends and play with them.

I think your point is valid, it's simply only one point. Teams are comprised of various members. Even in military service there is outliers, people not in the "norm" of the group..and despite being loners/oddballs they are valued because money positions and jobs in a military organization requires people who can operate alone and off their own initiative.

That isn't granted here, where people are herded into a few types of modes and told they have to "behave" a certain way according to whatever "this" random group of 4 people as far as "they" go believes it to be.

If I end up with a group of people who abuse comms and mute them, then abuse me because I stood up for myself. What then? You seem to not grasp that he isn't saying anything more then he'd like to "opt" out.

If your system is true and good, letting people opt out of it isn't a threat to it. Forcing people into roles unfit for them is a poor thing, which this system currently, sadly employs.
Last edited by Jaqlgems; Feb 12, 2020 @ 4:26pm
Willpower Feb 12, 2020 @ 4:28pm 
Make some friends and Q with them
WingDings Feb 12, 2020 @ 4:33pm 
Originally posted by willpower1271:
Make some friends and Q with them


Originally posted by RaimaNd:
Your acc is 16 years old. You have more than 3000 hours in csgo. And yet you only have 42 friends and play solo? You should be old and experienced enough and have the social skills to make friends and play with them.
The 2 of you are saying the same thing as Doc was, that i'm not allowed to have an enjoyable experience if i choose to play solo. I will tell you the same thing, that is an ignorant thing to say. I'm ranked higher than most of my friends that play cs. When i play with friends i play for fun and i play to rank up when i play solo. Why am i not allowed to do that and enjoy it?
SanderThePanda Feb 12, 2020 @ 4:36pm 
You're playing a team-based video game where having a communication is in the matter of fact a requirement, if you want a perfect game, you need to be playing with premades, YOU are SOLOing, and there is a chance where you team with people who are playing together.
WingDings Feb 12, 2020 @ 4:38pm 
Originally posted by Miondorë:
You're playing a team-based video game where having a communication is in the matter of fact a requirement, if you want a perfect game, you need to be playing with premades, YOU are SOLOing, and there is a chance where you team with people who are playing together.
And i am asking for an option to remove that chance, to at least get 1 other random i can commmunicate with. I don't think that's an unreasonable thing to ask for. It's in so many other games already.
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Date Posted: Feb 12, 2020 @ 3:25pm
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