Why are maps being deleted from the game?

[biti nista i budeti :)]

Valve recently removed Austria, a very good map for Competitive, and now it is completely gone. Why? Can't they put it in Casual at least if removing from Competitive? The game needs more maps and more rotation for Competitive and ALL of the maps should be always playable in other game modes. Your thoughts?

[PapaBearMaeX]

No, that sounds logic.

[ⒽⒺⓁⓅ]

I had the same thoughts.

It was my best map.

[Nutshell]

They removed because it isnt good lol. Its not my opinion, its Valve's so dont come at me with somethin like "Austria was the best map stfu you cxnt" :P

[Sun]

Too small player population for the maps and therefor its not in their interest to keep running it on any of the modes.

And many maps are not really suitable for competitive anyway, they're played during the operations just for the sake of it.

[biti nista i budeti :)]

Originally posted by A Nutshell:

They removed because it isnt good lol. Its not my opinion, its Valve's so dont come at me with somethin like "Austria was the best map stfu you cxnt" :P

I wasn't like "Austria was the best map stfu you cxnt", it wasn't my favorite but it was good in my opinion, but I'm also asking myself why does Valve completely remove the maps that are considered good by the community.

[HaŦŦrick ✓ 🛠 🗽]

because every map ever in the game is a bandwidth cost to Gaben, and if they were to host every one all the time, that cost would not be economically viable. also the more maps active the more spread out the users online will be eg the more time you have to wait to fill a server and/or ending up on all bot maps in some modes of the game.

[SuperHans]

go find a community server

[Sun]

Originally posted by HaŦŦrick:

because every map ever in the game is a bandwidth cost to Gaben, and if they were to host every one all the time, that cost would not be economically viable. also the more maps active the more spread out the users online will be eg the more time you have to wait to fill a server and/or ending up on all bot maps in some modes of the game.

This doesn't make any sense. You can put thousands of maps on a server, and when it's not used, they're are simply not used. There's is 0 bandwith usage for having maps on a sever. The matchmaking server just matches people on the parameters, map>rank etc. It just picks a server and changes the map the reqeusted map.


In the end it has to do with their plans and the community intrest...

[HaŦŦrick ✓ 🛠 🗽]

Originally posted by Sun:

Originally posted by HaŦŦrick:

because every map ever in the game is a bandwidth cost to Gaben, and if they were to host every one all the time, that cost would not be economically viable. also the more maps active the more spread out the users online will be eg the more time you have to wait to fill a server and/or ending up on all bot maps in some modes of the game.

This doesn't make any sense. You can put thousands of maps on a server, and when it's not used, they're are simply not used. There's is 0 bandwith usage for having maps on a sever. The matchmaking server just matches people on the parameters, map>rank etc. It just picks a server and changes the map the reqeusted map.


In the end it has to do with their plans and the community intrest...

where do you see anyone saying "man! they better put three year old Zoo on or i'm quitting" lol

there is ZERO community input on what maps Valve makes re-active. they use their bandwidth metrixs to make their choices. Zoo when it was out last was a very popular map as was the opertation it was in. they probably used those metrixs and said "lets put Zoo back in this time."

just like there was ZERO input from traders on that 7 day trade hold.

if what you say made sense every map would be available on a pulldown menu. right?

[poop]

Has fk-all to do with bandwidth. Valve has unlimited you know? Hosting is dirt cheap, always has been. Much cheaper than home internet cuz it's sold in bulk.

Remember when servers would automatically send you the map if you didn't have it and there were literally 100,000's of maps? Yeah, those were servers owned by regular people and they never complained about bandwidth...because they had their server in a datacenter with unlimited bandwidth.

[HaŦŦrick ✓ 🛠 🗽]

Originally posted by poop:

Has fk-all to do with bandwidth. Valve has unlimited you know? Hosting is dirt cheap, always has been. Much cheaper than home internet cuz it's sold in bulk.

Remember when servers would automatically send you the map if you didn't have it and there were literally 100,000's of maps? Yeah, those were servers owned by regular people and they never complained about bandwidth...because they had their server in a datacenter with unlimited bandwidth.

you are adding Community Servers into this topic which totally makes it a ...different topic.

by the way if you were to accidently be mailed a random data center invoice from Valve on any given month you'd probably have different views of what "dirt cheap" means. lol

[poop]

No I wouldn't. I know they have tens of thousands of servers and that bill would be a million times higher if they were hosting it all off of consumer broadband. But they aren't. They use a datacenter...multiple actually. It is dirt cheap.

And I brought up community servers to prove it isn't about bandwidth, because regular people can afford it so Valve can too. Community servers vastly outnumber official servers and I don't hear them complaining about bandwidth or removing maps.

[HaŦŦrick ✓ 🛠 🗽]

MmmmK. it appears we have the Masters of the Business World now on this thread lol i'll now await the All Maps dropdown menu because it's just a "dirt cheap" world in big internet business operation lol

hey i wonder which company gets the "dirt cheapest" bill a month Valve or Neflix?

[poop]

Oh yeah, the bill is so big that they have to charge their customers a whole $15 a month...such massive bill for bandwidth. I wonder how YouTube did it for over 10 years no ads, no fees just free streaming video. ( cuz it's dirt cheap )

[poop]

...that was about netflix...

anyways, you guys can google this stuff.
250 GB per month at a datacenter is freakin $0.40. Eat it.