Compensation; losing against cheaters?

[Spetz]

So I've been playing a lot of cs and a lot of the times I play I queue against cheaters, and that's pretty obvious since it's cs, I mean almost 50% of the community cheat.

The thing is - in my opinion - that when I've lost to a cheater that has got banned, I want some compensation for the loss. Like remove the loss. That's what would be fair.

This makes more sense when it comes to playing WITH cheater and winning. When you've won with cheaters that's got banned, the win gets removed and you lose your rank.

If adding this feature where you get compensated for losses against cheaters, it would be so much better and it would make more sense.

[Figurokill]

The matches get nullified once the cheater has been banned, for both teams.

So, even tho you are not getting a compensation directly, it might and probably will result in you ranking up faster after the ban.

[Hamless Hog]

doesnt the game played with a banned cheater already get rolled back..? also really, 50%?

[Hamless Hog]

Originally posted by ♥Michelle♥:

Originally posted by steezi:

So I've been playing a lot of cs and a lot of the times I play I queue against cheaters, and that's pretty obvious since it's cs, I mean almost 50% of the community cheat.

The thing is - in my opinion - that when I've lost to a cheater that has got banned, I want some compensation for the loss. Like remove the loss. That's what would be fair.

This makes more sense when it comes to playing WITH cheater and winning. When you've won with cheaters that's got banned, the win gets removed and you lose your rank.

If adding this feature where you get compensated for losses against cheaters, it would be so much better and it would make more sense.

Sorry that's a bad idea. It's the same idea that spawns inflation in currency through bailouts. You can't repair a loss without taking the win from the other party or everything will lose its value. Now the other team that got a loss because they had a toxic non-team player who doesn't callout and runs out without any tactics. Why do you think they are hacking in the first place right? They suck. Those players shouldn't lose their elo and you can't have any if they don't lose theirs.

so why would taking the wins away without taking the losses away help...?

[Hamless Hog]

Originally posted by ♥Michelle♥:

Originally posted by Hogarth:

so why would taking the wins away without taking the losses away help...?

You're talking to him right? If not you misunderstood.

im talking to you.

[i like em young]

how about this: if you abandon a match, and later a guy from the opposing team gets banned for cheats.. the cooldown sholuld be nullified..

dont expect people to play 40 minutes matches against hackers

[Spetz]

Originally posted by ♥Michelle♥:

Originally posted by steezi:

So I've been playing a lot of cs and a lot of the times I play I queue against cheaters, and that's pretty obvious since it's cs, I mean almost 50% of the community cheat.

The thing is - in my opinion - that when I've lost to a cheater that has got banned, I want some compensation for the loss. Like remove the loss. That's what would be fair.

This makes more sense when it comes to playing WITH cheater and winning. When you've won with cheaters that's got banned, the win gets removed and you lose your rank.

If adding this feature where you get compensated for losses against cheaters, it would be so much better and it would make more sense.

Sorry that's a bad idea. It's the same idea that spawns inflation in currency through bailouts. You can't repair a loss without taking the win from the other party or everything will lose its value. Now the other team that got a loss because they had a toxic non-team player who doesn't callout and runs out without any tactics. Why do you think they are hacking in the first place right? They suck. Those players shouldn't lose their elo and you can't have any if they don't lose theirs.

Exacty you can't repair a loss without taking the win from the other party, that's why it makes no sense when only the winning team get a penalty when the cheater gets banned. The team that lost should get compensated, then there's a balance. The losing team get compensated while the winning get a penalty.

[Spetz]

Originally posted by Hogarth:

doesnt the game played with a banned cheater already get rolled back..? also really, 50%?

Read the topic answer.

Maybe 50% is to exaggerate, but there are a lot of cheaters. Banned accounts constitute a bigger proportion than clean accounts, because cheaters constantly create new accounts and buy cs to keep cheating.

[Spetz]

Originally posted by i wish a ♥♥♥♥♥ would:

how about this: if you abandon a match, and later a guy from the opposing team gets banned for cheats.. the cooldown sholuld be nullified..

dont expect people to play 40 minutes matches against hackers

Just because there are cheaters that doesn't mean that the game is already lost, therefore the cooldown shouldn't be removed if one abandoned the match. Finish the game and you'll be compensated, abandon and you won't.

[Hamless Hog]

Originally posted by steezi:

Originally posted by Hogarth:

doesnt the game played with a banned cheater already get rolled back..? also really, 50%?

Read the topic answer.

Maybe 50% is to exaggerate, but there are a lot of cheaters. Banned accounts constitute a bigger proportion than clean accounts, because cheaters constantly create new accounts and buy cs to keep cheating.

yea thats what i was saying.

they do? statistics kinda show otherwise, where are you getting your sources?

[Hamless Hog]

Originally posted by ♥Michelle♥:

Originally posted by steezi:

Exacty you can't repair a loss without taking the win from the other party, that's why it makes no sense when only the winning team get a penalty when the cheater gets banned. The team that lost should get compensated, then there's a balance. The losing team get compensated while the winning get a penalty.

You've been playing with cheaters if you think it works like that. The winning team gives back the elo they took from the losing team.

you mean mmr*

[Spetz]

Originally posted by Hogarth:

Originally posted by steezi:

Read the topic answer.

Maybe 50% is to exaggerate, but there are a lot of cheaters. Banned accounts constitute a bigger proportion than clean accounts, because cheaters constantly create new accounts and buy cs to keep cheating.

yea thats what i was saying.

they do? statistics kinda show otherwise, where are you getting your sources?

Actually around 10% of the community cheat, and Valve make around $18 million on cheaters per year. But it's more when taking into account that everytime they get banned they buy new accounts. The source I have is only my memory, a video that I saw a while ago about this.

[Spetz]

Originally posted by ♥Michelle♥:

Originally posted by steezi:

Exacty you can't repair a loss without taking the win from the other party, that's why it makes no sense when only the winning team get a penalty when the cheater gets banned. The team that lost should get compensated, then there's a balance. The losing team get compensated while the winning get a penalty.

You've been playing with cheaters if you think it works like that. The winning team gives back the elo they took from the losing team.

Read the topic answer.