discuss AWP insta-"win" factor

[Disco Battle]

yes

[Kitai]

the awp is only good if you dont have skill to fully aim at people with a real gun 99% of my games have been lost due to kids thinking using the awp in a cqc will be better than an smg or ar, so it all depends, but yeah awp is insta win when you cant aim

[DIO]

it is not insta-win, it´s skill

[Lixire]

It isn't, Give the AWP for a terrible player with this weapon or either a one with very slow reaction time and he would be considered as a "feeder" or "troller".

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ZA WARUDO!!! eredeti hozzászólása:

it is not insta-win, it´s skill

Theres a reason most silver just gravitate to the AWP, its easy to use.

With the AWP you get to negate the need for recoil control, learning the timing for tapping, you dont have to go for the head, its basically a brutch for noobs in 90% of the game, they should reduce its one hit kill area and make its movement faster, this would make skilled players better and noobs worse.

[Fallen]

if you want to start a discussion, you should come up with something more than just

Abstract eredeti hozzászólása:

yes

the awp is not insta win. infact, most people, that i have encountered playing awp, suck with it. its a risky buy and sadly most wannabes go for it and ♥♥♥♥ up

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Fallen eredeti hozzászólása:

if you want to start a discussion, you should come up with something more than just

Abstract eredeti hozzászólása:

yes

the awp is not insta win. infact, most people, that i have encountered playing awp, suck with it. its a risky buy and sadly most wannabes go for it and ♥♥♥♥ up

What most noobs do is hold and angle get one kill then die, its a way for them to feel like they are as good as everyone else when infact they are just using it as a crutch a good player can do multiple things, i can AWP to a basic degree but im not great at it but it is really easy, you just hold angles, its the most basic ♥♥♥♥♥ weapon in terms of use.

They should nerf its one hit kill area and make its movement faster so we can get more aggresive awping but this time it requires accuracy unlike now since a shot to the hand is a kill.

[Asterious]

Sir Det Mist eredeti hozzászólása:

ZA WARUDO!!! eredeti hozzászólása:

it is not insta-win, it´s skill

Theres a reason most silver just gravitate to the AWP, its easy to use.

With the AWP you get to negate the need for recoil control, learning the timing for tapping, you dont have to go for the head, its basically a brutch for noobs in 90% of the game, they should reduce its one hit kill area and make its movement faster, this would make skilled players better and noobs worse.

Why change the awp when the "one shot" kill factor hasn't changed since cs came out in 99'? that would ruin the game in so many ways.

[Lixire]

Asterious eredeti hozzászólása:

Sir Det Mist eredeti hozzászólása:

Theres a reason most silver just gravitate to the AWP, its easy to use.

With the AWP you get to negate the need for recoil control, learning the timing for tapping, you dont have to go for the head, its basically a brutch for noobs in 90% of the game, they should reduce its one hit kill area and make its movement faster, this would make skilled players better and noobs worse.

Why change the awp when the "one shot" kill factor hasn't changed since cs came out in 99'? that would ruin the game in so many ways.

People fail to understand that CS GO isn't a MOBA like LoL/Dota that change all the time, Nerfing the AWP damage output would be probably the day that CS GO dies entirely as it ruins a big part of the core gameplay.

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Asterious eredeti hozzászólása:

Sir Det Mist eredeti hozzászólása:

Theres a reason most silver just gravitate to the AWP, its easy to use.

With the AWP you get to negate the need for recoil control, learning the timing for tapping, you dont have to go for the head, its basically a brutch for noobs in 90% of the game, they should reduce its one hit kill area and make its movement faster, this would make skilled players better and noobs worse.

Why change the awp when the "one shot" kill factor hasn't changed since cs came out in 99'? that would ruin the game in so many ways.

Its one shot kill isnt the issue its one shot kill area is, its a one shot to the hands ands arms, thats not right, body and head yes, arms no, you can clip my finger and i die.

The fact is been a way since X date doesnt mean anything, they nerfed its movement before and that wasnt the issue its the lack of accuracy the AWP takes to use that is the issue.

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★Sinon★ <3 eredeti hozzászólása:

Asterious eredeti hozzászólása:

Why change the awp when the "one shot" kill factor hasn't changed since cs came out in 99'? that would ruin the game in so many ways.

People fail to understand that CS GO isn't a MOBA like LoL/Dota that change all the time, Nerfing the AWP damage output would be probably the day that CS GO dies entirely as it ruins a big part of the core gameplay.

No it wouldnt it would still one hit just too a smaller area, it would kill ♥♥♥♥ awpers but a movemenr buff ontop of it would make world class awpers and skilled awpers much more powerful.

[Lixire]

Sir Det Mist eredeti hozzászólása:

★Sinon★ <3 eredeti hozzászólása:

People fail to understand that CS GO isn't a MOBA like LoL/Dota that change all the time, Nerfing the AWP damage output would be probably the day that CS GO dies entirely as it ruins a big part of the core gameplay.

No it wouldnt it would still one hit just too a smaller area, it would kill ♥♥♥♥ awpers but a movemenr buff ontop of it would make world class awpers and skilled awpers much more powerful.

AWP is now a weapon with High Risk, High Skill and yet a low reward.
Each kill gives you way less money compared to Pistols and other weapons.
Your movement speed with the AWP is already very low and remember, You got caught and you missed the chance to kill the person? You lost your AWP and $4900 and not including the rest such as Full Armor, Nades.

And besides that, Hitting the legs with the AWP doesn't kill you if you had 100HP, You would lose 85HP but still be alive.

Just learn about how to deal with the AWP, It's not that difficult.

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★Sinon★ <3 eredeti hozzászólása:

Sir Det Mist eredeti hozzászólása:

No it wouldnt it would still one hit just too a smaller area, it would kill ♥♥♥♥ awpers but a movemenr buff ontop of it would make world class awpers and skilled awpers much more powerful.

AWP is now a weapon with High Risk, High Skill and yet a low reward.
Each kill gives you way less money compared to Pistols and other weapons.
Your movement speed with the AWP is already very low and remember, You got caught and you missed the chance to kill the person? You lost your AWP and $4900 and not including the rest such as Full Armor, Nades.

And besides that, Hitting the legs with the AWP doesn't kill you if you had 100HP, You would lose 85HP but still be alive.

Just learn about how to deal with the AWP, It's not that difficult.

Its not high skill, how can you call easy one hit kills skill, that isnt skill, the legs arent a one hit but he hands are, the forearms are, the bicep area is aswell, thats stupid, i know how to deal with it the fact is its used by noobs as a crutch 10 times more then its used by skilled players, thats the issue, its not how effective it is, its how its used, its far too easy to use.

It takes 10 times more skill to use a rifle then an AWP.

High risk, low skill, thats the AWP, lets make it high skill by makeing movement with it faster and the one shot kill area smaller, ♥♥♥♥ players cant get easy one hits and great players can use the movement to pull off crazy things, much better.

AWPers right now are all the same, hold an angle, get a kill, deploy a smoke or molly fall back to another angle and so on, you cant smoke and pop flash all of these there isnt only so much you can do.

[Lixire]

Sir Det Mist eredeti hozzászólása:

★Sinon★ <3 eredeti hozzászólása:

AWP is now a weapon with High Risk, High Skill and yet a low reward.
Each kill gives you way less money compared to Pistols and other weapons.
Your movement speed with the AWP is already very low and remember, You got caught and you missed the chance to kill the person? You lost your AWP and $4900 and not including the rest such as Full Armor, Nades.

And besides that, Hitting the legs with the AWP doesn't kill you if you had 100HP, You would lose 85HP but still be alive.

Just learn about how to deal with the AWP, It's not that difficult.

Its not high skill, how can you call easy one hit kills skill, that isnt skill, the legs arent a one hit but he hands are, the forearms are, the bicep area is aswell, thats stupid, i know how to deal with it the fact is its used by noobs as a crutch 10 times more then its used by skilled players, thats the issue, its not how effective it is, its how its used, its far too easy to use.

It takes 10 times more skill to use a rifle then an AWP.

The AK47 is able to one-shot people as you well if you can aim to the head, Should we nerf it as well? Not really.
When you using the AWP, You indeed aren't taking things like Spray patterns and full control of your weapon as Snipers aren't meant to do that but you have to rely way more on your reaction time and awareness compared for a player that is playing with the AK or the M4 for example.

And I'm sorry, It's a very high skill to be a great AWP player as I said. You miss, You die and you lose a lot of value

[love]

You sir, have never played high level CS.

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★Sinon★ <3 eredeti hozzászólása:

Sir Det Mist eredeti hozzászólása:

Its not high skill, how can you call easy one hit kills skill, that isnt skill, the legs arent a one hit but he hands are, the forearms are, the bicep area is aswell, thats stupid, i know how to deal with it the fact is its used by noobs as a crutch 10 times more then its used by skilled players, thats the issue, its not how effective it is, its how its used, its far too easy to use.

It takes 10 times more skill to use a rifle then an AWP.

The AK47 is able to one-shot people as you well if you can aim to the head, Should we nerf it as well? Not really.
When you using the AWP, You indeed aren't taking things like Spray patterns and full control of your weapon as Snipers aren't meant to do that but you have to rely way more on your reaction time and awareness compared for a player that is playing with the AK or the M4 for example.

And I'm sorry, It's a very high skill to be a great AWP player as I said. You miss, You die and you lose a lot of value

Heres the difference, the AK has comparably awful accruracy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0rlCJ047Ds), it doesnt have a scope so hitting the target is much harder and you have to hit the head, its not even similar, its about a 10th the area.

Reaction times are just as important for people with rifles, if anything its more important since you not only need to reacy fast but you reactions must be accurate, at a high level you need to land those headshots in most cases, with the awp you can just get a simple body shot.

Often with the AWP you dont die when you miss, you may die if you go over aggresive but if you jsut play long angles as you can on 90% of the CSGO's maps, or you play with some back up you will normally miss and escape, that idea of you miss you die it BS.

Make its one hit kill zone smaller, make a its movement faster and it will be a weapon with far higher skill value as mastering movement will be key.