Trust factor is a joke.

[Glock17]

Trust factor has been poorly implemented and does not work as intended. Especially since report-bots exist and since Trust factor is based on reports over a course of time based on how many games you play. And other factors we do not know. Some of which is pure BS if it is one of the main factors that contributes to the trust factor.

How does the system know if Iam a one account holder or not? How does the game know if I play all my games or not? It seems alot of factors that have nothing to do with CSGO affect how I play. "Being a positive member of steam community" is not helpful and at the same time. Is BS because for whatever reason. Reasons I wont know. If someone reports my steam account or not or goes looking for my friends and my recent transactions on steam have nothing to do with how I play.

I have been getting cheater games constantly no matter what. Even though I dont cheat and dont go out of my way to que with cheaters. I 100% soloque or que with a friend who is legit.

Yet I still get bad players or cheaters who rage in my games. Its one with getting toxic or bad players. Its another when you place me with cheaters when I dont cheat.

There really needs to be a fix that does put actual cheaters or highly suspected cheaters in their own TF-pools. 6 months ago. The game was fine. I was able to reach DMG no problem in nonprime soloque. Now I cant even win a game due to cheaters.

I dont know what happened or what was the change. But I have put alot of hours and played alot of games so I know my play activity isnt affecting TF. Yet my experience has gone down and is terrible.

And I just made a ticket with the CSGO department seeing what can be done. And what they say is they cant change my Trust factor. According to some of you "CS experts" If my trust factor is bad. That I should submit a ticket and they're telling me they cant do anything.

So it seems Trust factor is actually ruining csgo. And Iam not the only one who agrees. ALot of players have left the game because of the TF-changes in CSGO MM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EItvQQg-kI

According to him. If you stop playing. Your trust factor goes down. You do bad. Your trust factor goes down. But if I do really good. My trust factor can still go down.....

It doesnt make sense. Either remove the report bots or fix the system to get cheaters banned or expadited to low trust factor so I dont have to deal with cheaters.

[.Newbiedienloan.]

引用自 red_dwarf：

引用自 .Newbiedienloan.：

I already knew that VACnet send suspicious cases to OW, but before you need 10 reports from players and if the case show up then most likely a cheater. Now with VACnet only just few lucky shots or wallbang and you end up on OW. And with majority of nova and mg who doesnt know what is wallbang and wallhack, some innocent ppl got banned. Probably Vavle learned their mistake and so my friend's ban changed from permanent to 1 year (TF definitely got reset by that time, but at least he can retrieve his stuff)
The problem with skill level that I have rn is that ppl get higher rank than their autual skill. Even with toxicity, as long as they communicate and sharpen their skill to fit with rank, the game will be fun. Now its no longer fun. Teammates just expect you to carry them, and become toxic when you fail, or no communicate yet always die early and no reports on position. I heard that when your team lose, dont blame your team, so you should blame yourself that you cannot be a hero and play 1vs5? I watched videos and learn advices about having a good competitive game, but somewhat seem to contradict each other (mostly when apply to nova + mg game).
This is why I quitted competitve, just a month before they introduce VACnet. Now i just chill out in community servers, where i can quit anytime I want, no skill level and ppl play solely at their best.

If someone is suspected of cheating by OW, VAC team will overwatch it and look if cheating software was attached to CS:GO process. If so, they will add signature to VAC system. They also gameban suspected cheater and gameban will turn to VAC in near future. Of course if it is skin changer, it will stay gameban forever. OW is to help detect new cheats that VAC don't know. Also gameban will not turn to VAC when somebody using some bug in game to get advantage over others which is Majorly Disruptive (known as glitching or glitch abusing).

Yeah VAC get update with new cheat but the rate is too slow compare to how cheats got developed. Just see faceit and esea anti cheat is already good example.
Skin changer not really consider hacking, but it hurts Vavle wallet so make sense if they treat it like a cheat engine.
If people abuse glitch in maps, they are not cheating, so Vavle cannot treat them like cheater and apply ban. They can just make temporary update and disable map then allow it back when glitch fixed. About OW, if the system really works like it supposed to, we dont even need TF or VACnet like now.

[Fractal ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥]

"some of which is bs" XD

[Glock17]

引用自 .Newbiedienloan.：

引用自 ★Sinon★ <3：

Of course and I may agree with some things that you said.
You are indeed correct, Just because you have a high TF score doesn't mean you are not going to cheat, But having a high TF score mostly means that you are less likely to cheat (That's the whole point of the system). There are people who can get around it with cheating if they are "legit-cheating" which means they try to mask many clues for cheating as much as possible and even using with their own made cheats to lower the risk for getting banned.

Mostly I see "false bans" as a lie unless there is a good proof that it was a screw up from Valve and it's have been reverted and there are.

Getting VAC banned for dumb things is insanely easy. For example, having Cheat Engine or some sort of a script running in the background while playing CS GO is not allowed and would get your account banned even if you didn't cheat in the game itself.

When it comes to the skill level, I would prefer to have higher quality matches rather playing with/against a cheater and cheating was always a rampant issue when it comes to high MMR players (LEM-Global) I did notice way more cheaters back in 2015-2016 while I still played the game seriously and was LEM-Supreme.
But in that case when it comes to skill level, I would blame more CS:GO's MM system for not having Seasonal MMR as Valve did way too many changes in real time I.e Early 2015 with the VAC waves and Late 2015 that they changed the values for each rank.

I already knew that VACnet send suspicious cases to OW, but before you need 10 reports from players and if the case show up then most likely a cheater. Now with VACnet only just few lucky shots or wallbang and you end up on OW. And with majority of nova and mg who doesnt know what is wallbang and wallhack, some innocent ppl got banned. Probably Vavle learned their mistake and so my friend's ban changed from permanent to 1 year (TF definitely got reset by that time, but at least he can retrieve his stuff)
The problem with skill level that I have rn is that ppl get higher rank than their autual skill. Even with toxicity, as long as they communicate and sharpen their skill to fit with rank, the game will be fun. Now its no longer fun. Teammates just expect you to carry them, and become toxic when you fail, or no communicate yet always die early and no reports on position. I heard that when your team lose, dont blame your team, so you should blame yourself that you cannot be a hero and play 1vs5? I watched videos and learn advices about having a good competitive game, but somewhat seem to contradict each other (mostly when apply to nova + mg game).
This is why I quitted competitve, just a month before they introduce VACnet. Now i just chill out in community servers, where i can quit anytime I want, no skill level and ppl play solely at their best.

reports reset every 24 hours. I dont know why. They should leave them for a week. That way cheaters cant "rage 2 a day and keep VAC away" trick that they employ anymore.

[tatters]

Vac couldnt find a cheater if they emailed the code to them

[Glock17]

引用自 Middle Polar：

Trust factor = useless
Vac = useless
Prime = useless
64 tick = useless

faceit = nice
128 tick = nice
esea = nice

l would not recommend you to use cheat but on mm games use it if you gonna play it becouse there is many cheaters out there

Faceit, it can happend any have it but its so low chance but if they have cheat they will be banned in time :)

why do I have to use a service or pay for it when it already exists in the game? I dont know why valve can just simply ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ pay faceit and let faceit handle the cheating problem. Or ESEA.

I dont see the NFL paying some outside party to drugtest or asking football players to pay for drugtests so that the teams can play cleaner in the superbowl championships. They do that ♥♥♥♥ in-house. And that should be the same way with CSGO; pay FACEIT and ESEA to merge their service with CSGO and make it free.

They're making a killing with key sales and skins anyways. What do they ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lose throwing FACEIT and ESEA a bone to work under them?

[Tronkkeli]

引用自 steroids4chikens：

引用自 CallmeFrank：

Know what I don't get. I am sure many people would pay like 5 bucks a month to play on 128 tick valve mm servers......

Valve being as greedy as they are.... Why are they not milking this ez cow???

edit: Come to think of it, ia m sure certian player base would pay 10 bucks amonth for 128 tick and a more intrusive anti cheat

they already do. Its called ESEA. And we saw what they did in 2014 xd. Hint: they burnt alot of GPU's in the process.

Well incase someone dont know:, https://youtu.be/NCWi2e9yu74

[Glock17]

引用自 StoicSirius：

引用自 steroids4chikens：

seems like I won. Lul

Wait, this was a competition? I thought you were discussing whether Trust Factor was gay or nay

Nope. I just wanted to be a douche to meow. How clearly doesnt have a clue about csgo or was ever high-ranked enough to understand how ♥♥♥♥♥♥ trust factor is in high ranks.

And he only plays 3.5 hours a week. And says they love CSGO.

Yet I dont like csgo and I play 40 hours a week. Makes sense. Lol

WHy is that dumb players who blindly defend CSGO is perfect when they play a different game?

Its like a liberal trying to sell you a gun yet says they need restrictions and think gun control is fine.

Its like you either support 2A or dont support 2A, you cant support part of it.

So if you only put half the effort (or 10% in meow's case) into this game. And defend it. You really dont know what you're talking about.

I dont get this kid thinking report bots dont work when alot of people say it works and the paid ones exist. Its like with free cheats. Yea the free cheats are trash, but most idiots dont use free cheats. They used the paid ones.

And they're damn good at it too. I cannot begin to tell you how many games I get where a cheater on my team brags about the client they use and talks down on the other team using an inferior cheat to theirs. And they always say its a paid cheat.

I bet the paid clients for report bots work the best too if its anything like the cheats.

[red_dwarf]

引用自 .Newbiedienloan.：

引用自 red_dwarf：

If someone is suspected of cheating by OW, VAC team will overwatch it and look if cheating software was attached to CS:GO process. If so, they will add signature to VAC system. They also gameban suspected cheater and gameban will turn to VAC in near future. Of course if it is skin changer, it will stay gameban forever. OW is to help detect new cheats that VAC don't know. Also gameban will not turn to VAC when somebody using some bug in game to get advantage over others which is Majorly Disruptive (known as glitching or glitch abusing).

Yeah VAC get update with new cheat but the rate is too slow compare to how cheats got developed. Just see faceit and esea anti cheat is already good example.
Skin changer not really consider hacking, but it hurts Vavle wallet so make sense if they treat it like a cheat engine.
If people abuse glitch in maps, they are not cheating, so Vavle cannot treat them like cheater and apply ban. They can just make temporary update and disable map then allow it back when glitch fixed. About OW, if the system really works like it supposed to, we dont even need TF or VACnet like now.

no matter if you are cheating by using external software or abusing some glitch, both is cheating, both is punished by gameban for glitching or VAC for external software use

[Glock17]

引用自 Twix：

引用自 steroids4chikens：

they already do. Its called ESEA. And we saw what they did in 2014 xd. Hint: they burnt alot of GPU's in the process.

Well incase someone dont know:, https://youtu.be/NCWi2e9yu74

yep. All the more reason not to pay for any service when it should be free. Its not like valve is going bankrupt right now right? I dont get why they cant just pay ESEA to merge with them and have them work with valve devs. I dont get the deal.

Its just only several million dollars to throw at and valve dont have to get involved in anything other than just overwatching the ESEA employees and making sure they're actually "working on it"

[red_dwarf]

引用自 steroids4chikens：

引用自 CallmeFrank：

Know what I don't get. I am sure many people would pay like 5 bucks a month to play on 128 tick valve mm servers......

Valve being as greedy as they are.... Why are they not milking this ez cow???

edit: Come to think of it, ia m sure certian player base would pay 10 bucks amonth for 128 tick and a more intrusive anti cheat

they already do. Its called ESEA. And we saw what they did in 2014 xd. Hint: they burnt alot of GPU's in the process.

if GPU is destroyed by software, it is its fault and should be replaced by manufacturer. People used this false argument to attack ESEA. It is not true at all, no GPU was burned.

[Trapacid]

引用自 red_dwarf：

引用自 steroids4chikens：

they already do. Its called ESEA. And we saw what they did in 2014 xd. Hint: they burnt alot of GPU's in the process.

if GPU is destroyed by software, it is its fault and should be replaced by manufacturer. People used this false argument to attack ESEA. It is not true at all, no GPU was burned.

This.

The "my gpu fried" and "my gpu burned my computer" and such are just to make ESEA look bad.

[Glock17]

引用自 red_dwarf：

引用自 steroids4chikens：

they already do. Its called ESEA. And we saw what they did in 2014 xd. Hint: they burnt alot of GPU's in the process.

if GPU is destroyed by software, it is its fault and should be replaced by manufacturer. People used this false argument to attack ESEA. It is not true at all, no GPU was burned.

I dont think you understand how bitcoin mining works, kid.

Real miners undervolt their cards so they dont overheat because mining puts a heavy constant load on the GPU. People always talk about cards burning out all the time until they found a successful way to stop killing their cards. "keeping them cool" is the answer.

Bitcoin mining or any type of mining hammers the card harder than any game or program can do based on the load.

So what about people who dont know mining and just play games? In this case. Gamers using ESEA to play csgo. And if you know anything about CSGO, we always like getting more frames.

So how do we get more frames? We overclock. Now going back to the bitcoining thing.

If a card is undervolted. It wont burn and die. So when you have no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ clue that a program is running mining software on your card. And if you have overclocked it. Its going to silently kill your GPU.

ANd yes. Lots of people have RMA'd their cards when this happened. But the problem is that ESEA didnt tell any of their users that the anticheat was hiding a bitcoin mining program.

DO YOU SEE WHERE THIS IS GOING??????

[Glock17]

引用自 Meowowowo：

引用自 red_dwarf：

if GPU is destroyed by software, it is its fault and should be replaced by manufacturer. People used this false argument to attack ESEA. It is not true at all, no GPU was burned.

This.

The "my gpu fried" and "my gpu burned my computer" and such are just to make ESEA look bad.

if it was to make it look bad. Why was there people complaining of bitcoin mining software hidden in the anti-cheat? You can go ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ back the announcement and even ESEA's own staff acknowledged it.

You're literally just a braindamaged feminist who will just argue over any evidence being shown no matter what cause you cant admit you're wrong.

Fake news was so 2017. This happened in 2013-2014 And it wasnt fake news.

[|ツ-ColeTrunks]

引用自 Meowowowo：

引用自 red_dwarf：

if GPU is destroyed by software, it is its fault and should be replaced by manufacturer. People used this false argument to attack ESEA. It is not true at all, no GPU was burned.

This.

The "my gpu fried" and "my gpu burned my computer" and such are just to make ESEA look bad.

this happend to you or something?

[B-o-B]

引用自 |ツ-ColeTrunks：

引用自 Meowowowo：

This.

The "my gpu fried" and "my gpu burned my computer" and such are just to make ESEA look bad.

this happend to you or something?

Naw cole hes just giving example.