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KillahInstinct 27 set. 2019 às 23:59 
This shouldn't be a surprise. The sites are not supported and meant to be, and fraud is sadly rampant. We shouldn't be supporting sites that accommodate the scams cashing out.

Use market and trade for what it was meant for, skins to be enjoyed in game.
Última alteração por KillahInstinct; 28 set. 2019 às 0:00
.Newbiedienloan. 28 set. 2019 às 0:01 
Originalmente postado por 𝑪𝒜𝕜ə ֆ𝓗⍥𝓅🍰:
@John "JJ" Jones, for what it's worth, i'm in full agreement with every point you've made. Anyone who prioritises security over saving a few bucks will side with you.
Let’s be honest: without those 3rd party sites exist, csgo skin market wouldn’t be like today. Look at pubg market after they decided to disable trading.
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Crystal 28 set. 2019 às 0:08 
Its always wild to see someone actively talking in a forum and then hit with a (banned) tag.

Dude was alive eighteen minutes ago. Now he's laying dead on the floor and they were even against illegal skin trading
KillahInstinct 28 set. 2019 às 0:10 
Originalmente postado por SKIFREE:
Its always wild to see someone actively talking in a forum and then hit with a (banned) tag.

Dude was alive eighteen minutes ago. Now he's laying dead on the floor and they were even against illegal skin trading
Stance is irrelevant. Rule breaking is free of opinion.
.Newbiedienloan. 28 set. 2019 às 0:10 
Originalmente postado por SKIFREE:
Its always wild to see someone actively talking in a forum and then hit with a (banned) tag.

Dude was alive eighteen minutes ago. Now he's laying dead on the floor and they were even against illegal skin trading
He must be banned for something else. Opinion still an opinion, the way you debate is different.
Crystal 28 set. 2019 às 0:11 
/me holds hands up - I dont know what they did, just saying its wild

Originalmente postado por KillahInstinct:
Originalmente postado por SKIFREE:
Its always wild to see someone actively talking in a forum and then hit with a (banned) tag.

Dude was alive eighteen minutes ago. Now he's laying dead on the floor and they were even against illegal skin trading
Stance is irrelevant. Rule breaking is free of opinion.
Good. Finally all those "businessman's" will be gone. And skins will get back to normal prices...
I'm pretty sure that this will have impact on the steam market. And prices will collapse.
No more stupid pixel business, less scams as they can't monetise.
Valerie 28 set. 2019 às 1:19 
Originalmente postado por John "JJ" Jones:
Originalmente postado por 𝑪𝒜𝕜ə ֆ𝓗⍥𝓅🍰:
@John "JJ" Jones, for what it's worth, i'm in full agreement with every point you've made. Anyone who prioritises security over saving a few bucks will side with you.
Thank you.
It's not really about saving a few bucks for some. For me, it's bout getting REAL money outside of Steam. I could sell stuff on Bitskins and buy myself a brand new computer or anything else that off of this platform. Or I could just sell it on Market and get $1500 worth of Steam games/items.... Which is essentially a huge gift card method.

Why would I want a money in one specific thing when I can get money I could spend anywhere I want?

Originalmente postado por KillahInstinct:
This shouldn't be a surprise. The sites are not supported and meant to be, and fraud is sadly rampant. We shouldn't be supporting sites that accommodate the scams cashing out.

Use market and trade for what it was meant for, skins to be enjoyed in game.
While I agree these sites really give a platform to scammers, it is sad to see. It is sad to see another site, that is known for being relatively trust worthy (provided you know what you're doing), is shutting down.

I was honestly about to sell my own inventory there and get a new PC/PC parts. Now I guess I gotta play the wait game and see which site pops up in its absence. 'Cuz I'd rather not get $1500 in Steam wallet. :doubt:
Profile 28 set. 2019 às 1:36 
Originalmente postado por Serenity ♡:
Originalmente postado por John "JJ" Jones:
Thank you.
It's not really about saving a few bucks for some. For me, it's bout getting REAL money outside of Steam. I could sell stuff on Bitskins and buy myself a brand new computer or anything else that off of this platform. Or I could just sell it on Market and get $1500 worth of Steam games/items.... Which is essentially a huge gift card method.

Why would I want a money in one specific thing when I can get money I could spend anywhere I want?

Originalmente postado por KillahInstinct:
This shouldn't be a surprise. The sites are not supported and meant to be, and fraud is sadly rampant. We shouldn't be supporting sites that accommodate the scams cashing out.

Use market and trade for what it was meant for, skins to be enjoyed in game.
While I agree these sites really give a platform to scammers, it is sad to see. It is sad to see another site, that is known for being relatively trust worthy (provided you know what you're doing), is shutting down.

I was honestly about to sell my own inventory there and get a new PC/PC parts. Now I guess I gotta play the wait game and see which site pops up in its absence. 'Cuz I'd rather not get $1500 in Steam wallet. :doubt:

Oh, it's you again... always disagreeing with me (i was previously called Solitude, but changed my name and profile to something cake themed (because i felt an overwhelming desire for cake recently). But anyway... skins were intended to be enjoyed. i've never cashed out. And i never will, every cent i've added into my steam wallet was purely for the love of collecting skins.

If you can't cash out. Good. Spend it on the Steam Market or buy Steam games. Don't you love skins too? Don't you love games? You're going to spend the money here anyway, so what's the problem?
Valerie 28 set. 2019 às 1:39 
Originalmente postado por 𝑪𝒜𝕜ə ֆ𝓗⍥𝓅🍰:
Originalmente postado por Serenity ♡:
It's not really about saving a few bucks for some. For me, it's bout getting REAL money outside of Steam. I could sell stuff on Bitskins and buy myself a brand new computer or anything else that off of this platform. Or I could just sell it on Market and get $1500 worth of Steam games/items.... Which is essentially a huge gift card method.

Why would I want a money in one specific thing when I can get money I could spend anywhere I want?


While I agree these sites really give a platform to scammers, it is sad to see. It is sad to see another site, that is known for being relatively trust worthy (provided you know what you're doing), is shutting down.

I was honestly about to sell my own inventory there and get a new PC/PC parts. Now I guess I gotta play the wait game and see which site pops up in its absence. 'Cuz I'd rather not get $1500 in Steam wallet. :doubt:

Oh, it's you again... always disagreeing with me (i was previously called Solitude, but changed my name and profile to something cake themed (because i felt an overwhelming desire for cake recently). But anyway... skins were intended to be enjoyed. i've never cashed out. And i never will, every cent i've added into my steam wallet was purely for the love of collecting skins.

If you can't cash out. Good. Spend it on the Steam Market or buy Steam games. Don't you love skins too? Don't you love games? You're going to spend the money here anyway, so what's the problem?
I have no idea who you are - sorry I don't keep tabs on everyone. I just disagreed 'cuz our opinions don't sync up though. Taking it personally is on you.

I get that they were intended to be enjoyed, but the reality is people have spent insane amounts of money on these skins because Valve is the one who sets their rates. That along with a community market creates insane prices and some people would like to know they can get some money back that isn't locked to just Steam.

I'd personally like to get a better PC over Steam games 'cuz there's not a lot of things on Steam that I can get that equals out to $1500 worth of skins. Not to mention some games I do want aren't even on Steam's platform.
Última alteração por Valerie; 28 set. 2019 às 1:40
Der Pirat 28 set. 2019 às 1:51 
Skins were never meant to hold any value.
Thats why steam was though to be in trouble infront of the court, yet there were able to deny the charges and explaining that you don't hold any reallife currency / value with skins in your steam inventory.
To proof that steam was asked to actively shut down something which was already "illegal" considering steam ToS. So steam went down on the biggest providers of the market and several others.

Some years passed steam couldn't care less for some niche guys offering the same while following steam rules (trade restriction etc.) -> skinbaron best example

Now there was a case of fraudent action.
Steam couldn't bother less they have everything protected (INSIDE STEAM!) so if something fraudents happen they do a roleback (remove game, revoke trade and delete fraudent item afterwards, remove currency (steamwallet) received by frauds etc.)

Now steam still knows that they could prevent a certain amount of dmg from frauds to them however if you go to a 3rd website and buy a skin for a 3 digit or 4 digit number and then it gets deleted afterwards you would probally be mad at steam and not at the 3rd party seller, since steam was the one deleting it.

Steam requested proper actions to prepare against frauds which is near to impossible unless you have long waiting times for the customers regardless of buying or selling.
That's why some websites are still up but rather unfamiliar.

The mentioned site made the decission to rather cashout now instead of building a system preventing fraud, since that system wouldn't be 100% accurate and if steam shuts down completly they are still hold responsible law wise for the skins / values THEY give them as reallife money.
My guess is that they worked out the 14 day arrangement with the legal department of steam.
They have 14 days time to change their system to detect fraud or shut the service down of selling items.

TLDR:

Don't see stuff with a reallife money value just because some people say so.
Same is with some trading stuff most is a scam where only a handfull people claim its value and the sheeps follow paying the prices - easy to see by bot accs buying out skins which are considered "trash" just to resell them after 1 year while artificatily thining out the market making sure it looks rare.
Just my 2 cent.
HYTE 28 set. 2019 às 2:05 
I can understand this opinion to close this service. Steamguard and the security of cs items is so easy to outwit. There are tons of stolen items. I appreciate that they dont want support this bandits anymore. But a crazy and drastic step.
Profile 28 set. 2019 às 2:24 
Originalmente postado por Serenity ♡:
Originalmente postado por 𝑪𝒜𝕜ə ֆ𝓗⍥𝓅🍰:

Oh, it's you again... always disagreeing with me (i was previously called Solitude, but changed my name and profile to something cake themed (because i felt an overwhelming desire for cake recently). But anyway... skins were intended to be enjoyed. i've never cashed out. And i never will, every cent i've added into my steam wallet was purely for the love of collecting skins.

If you can't cash out. Good. Spend it on the Steam Market or buy Steam games. Don't you love skins too? Don't you love games? You're going to spend the money here anyway, so what's the problem?
I have no idea who you are - sorry I don't keep tabs on everyone. I just disagreed 'cuz our opinions don't sync up though. Taking it personally is on you.

I get that they were intended to be enjoyed, but the reality is people have spent insane amounts of money on these skins because Valve is the one who sets their rates. That along with a community market creates insane prices and some people would like to know they can get some money back that isn't locked to just Steam.

I'd personally like to get a better PC over Steam games 'cuz there's not a lot of things on Steam that I can get that equals out to $1500 worth of skins. Not to mention some games I do want aren't even on Steam's platform.

You don't remember me, that's fine, basically, you've disagreed with me on several threads about various topics. I remember you because your posts were a lot longer and more thorough than everyone else's.

Anyway, i understand that people would like the option to cash out. Of course they would. But is that in Valve's best interests? Look at it from their point of view, and think of the legal ramifications if they were to allow it... it's a dangerous line... at the end of the day, i'd rather that Valve be safe, secure and legal, than have the option to cash out.
mr bl0nd3 28 set. 2019 às 2:44 
finally they're taking steps, that method is known for a long time now. people use stolen credit card information, buy skins and sell them on third party sites. i don't get how the government doesn't do more against this its obvious what 90% of those third party sites are made for (easy sells and trades are just a nice side effect for the community).
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