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HellbirdIV Sep 10, 2019 @ 7:07pm
Cooldowns for "kicking too many players" are dumb.
I have, in the past couple days, played 2 games of CSGO. In both games, the team kicked one player for going AFK unannounced mid-game. In both cases, I recieved a 24hr competitive cooldown.

To state again; One game, one votekick, one ban. Sequentially.

If that is all it takes to count as having "kicked too many players", then maybe we should just prohibit votekicking in Competitive games at all, since replacing a player who goes AFK unannounced for several rounds in a row is with a bot is now considered toxic behaviour.

Hell, a second player in my second game was actively griefing and there was a vote to kick him as well. I declined it, because I figured he'd eat a bigger ban for teamkilling (which he did) but does that factor into things? What if I had agreed to kick him, would that have increased MY cooldown as well? Does him getting kicked by the console for teamkilling count anyway?

After a few months of this, I imagine people will stop votekicking entirely to avoid incurring the wrath of a brainless system that can't tell that the person who has stood completely still for 3 rounds in a row isn't going to come back.

Madness, madness and stupidity...
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Scrub Sep 10, 2019 @ 7:10pm 
It's a bit weird. I believe the system is trying to get you to only use the kick feature when someone is ACTIVELY griefing or being an act of nuisance.

Every other time I think you should just report and move on with the day/match.

It.. sucks.
HellbirdIV Sep 10, 2019 @ 7:13pm 
Originally posted by doc:
It's a bit weird. I believe the system is trying to get you to only use the kick feature when someone is ACTIVELY griefing or being an act of nuisance.

Every other time I think you should just report and move on with the day/match.

It.. sucks.

It sucks indeed. I mean, if my next game has someone who IS griefing really badly, or spouting racial slurs in chat, or both, I still can't kick them, because that would no doubt get me *another* cooldown. That's not really a great solution to toxic behavior, forcing people to endure it. And the other 3 players on my team might be perfectly nice people having their match ruined, but I have to be complicit in keeping the one abusive player in the game because just agreeing to *their* votes would get me suspended...

Is there a way to mute a particular players' text chat? I've been looking for the option but can't seem to find it in-game. I imagine that would help a lot...
Last edited by HellbirdIV; Sep 10, 2019 @ 7:15pm
SourApple Sep 10, 2019 @ 7:16pm 
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I dont know how to mute specific players.
Last edited by SourApple; Sep 10, 2019 @ 7:16pm
Irene ❤ Sep 10, 2019 @ 7:29pm 
You have previously kicked many players and also getting 2 other punishments (30 minutes / 2 hours) before the 24 hours cooldown.

Nobody has the right to kick a player when he / she is only playing badly. For griefing, simply report them so that they can be given 30 days ban and a perm ban on repeated offense.

The kick feature is to be used only for afk, for example the player is afk but running a script to prevent an auto afk kick. If the person is screaming or wrote offensive text, we should mute instead of kick.

The kick abuse happened because monkeys do it and monkeys learn. What are we, an online king to decide who gets to play and who does not? It is wrong to kick players. We should stop the bad habit as soon as possible.
Last edited by Irene ❤; Sep 10, 2019 @ 8:00pm
Scrub Sep 10, 2019 @ 7:57pm 
Originally posted by HellbirdIV:
Is there a way to mute a particular players' text chat? I've been looking for the option but can't seem to find it in-game. I imagine that would help a lot...
Strongly Agree :approved:
Sen no Rikyū Sep 10, 2019 @ 8:44pm 
Originally posted by doc:
It's a bit weird. I believe the system is trying to get you to only use the kick feature when someone is ACTIVELY griefing or being an act of nuisance.

Every other time I think you should just report and move on with the day/match.

It.. sucks.
So you support being an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. The system gives you a cooldown if you abuse the vote kick function, so the only way you are getting cooldown for using it its because you are being a salty ♥♥♥♥ who kicks for no logical reason.

Kicking someone because he isn't doing exactly as you say is not a valid reason to kick.
Kicking someone because he wasnt able to avenge you for dying is not a reason to kick.
Kicking someone because you had a bad day is not a valid reason.

Also dont press F1 to kick someone if you dont know why they want to kick him, maybe someone in your team is kicking for a stupid reason such as the one mentioned.

Honestly I dont trust the vote kick system to anybody especially americans who are extremely salty at video games.
Last edited by Sen no Rikyū; Sep 10, 2019 @ 8:53pm
BlueLightning Sep 10, 2019 @ 9:05pm 
Originally posted by Kaabii.-:
Originally posted by doc:
It's a bit weird. I believe the system is trying to get you to only use the kick feature when someone is ACTIVELY griefing or being an act of nuisance.

Every other time I think you should just report and move on with the day/match.

It.. sucks.
So you support being an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. The system gives you a cooldown if you abuse the vote kick function, so the only way you are getting cooldown for using it its because you are being a salty ♥♥♥♥ who kicks for no logical reason.

Kicking someone because he isn't doing exactly as you say is not a valid reason to kick.
Kicking someone because he wasnt able to avenge you for dying is not a reason to kick.
Kicking someone because you had a bad day is not a valid reason.

Also dont press F1 to kick someone if you dont know why they want to kick him, maybe someone in your team is kicking for a stupid reason such as the one mentioned.

Honestly I dont trust the vote kick system to anybody especially americans who are extremely salty at video games.
or stacking cooldowns
Sen no Rikyū Sep 10, 2019 @ 9:07pm 
Originally posted by Sour Apple:
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I dont know how to mute specific players.
To mute specific players I think you can open the scoreboard and click on the speakers Icon to block it, It blocks voice and chat I think.
Klauß 🍔🍻 Sep 10, 2019 @ 9:49pm 
Cooldowns for kicking too many teammates arent stupid. You are the one side of the medal, talking about kicking sparingly and getting a Cooldown for legitimate kickvotes.
But there is also another side, namely players that get kicked for no reason. And there are lots of players that do these kickvotes for no reason. So these players deserve a Cooldown for kicking too many teammates. Because they abuse the kick system (or try to abuse it). If you look through this forum you see alot of people complaining about getting cooldowned over and over again for "no reason". But they all got one reason in common; they vote to kick players.
Last edited by Klauß 🍔🍻; Sep 10, 2019 @ 9:51pm
Red Sep 10, 2019 @ 10:12pm 
just vote kick only for griefer and cheaters... if you vote yes for fun or when another player is worse than you.. you are just jerk
Herr Kruelbar® Sep 10, 2019 @ 10:19pm 
Originally posted by HellbirdIV:
Cooldowns for "kicking too many players" are dumb.

I have, in the past couple days, played 2 games of CSGO. In both games, the team kicked one player for going AFK unannounced mid-game. In both cases, I recieved a 24hr competitive cooldown.

To state again; One game, one votekick, one ban. Sequentially.
You are looking at this from the wrong angle; the kick system works fine but you have abused it.

To get a cooldown for kicking, you have kicked WAY more than what you are admitting to. Don't bother denying it, its a fact not in question.

What you have to do is learn to report and move on, and don't participate in kick votes for about a month so your cooldown level drops. If you don't - next ban *WILL* be a week long. You have been warned.

What is a cooldown and how does it work? Read this handy guide and do what it says! GL man!
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=373180094
Pubert Sep 10, 2019 @ 10:22pm 
To be able to kick enough people to be banned you must have a terrible trust factor and play with trolls/cheaters or you are the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ kicking people because they are not playing good enough which you have no right to do
Pubert Sep 10, 2019 @ 10:27pm 
Originally posted by doc:
Originally posted by HellbirdIV:
Is there a way to mute a particular players' text chat? I've been looking for the option but can't seem to find it in-game. I imagine that would help a lot...
Strongly Agree :approved:
to mute specific players press tab to bring up the scoreboard after that you can then click on the abusive players name and there will be a microphone. Click that to mute them
HellbirdIV Sep 11, 2019 @ 9:33am 
Originally posted by Herr Kruelbar®:
Originally posted by HellbirdIV:
Cooldowns for "kicking too many players" are dumb.

I have, in the past couple days, played 2 games of CSGO. In both games, the team kicked one player for going AFK unannounced mid-game. In both cases, I recieved a 24hr competitive cooldown.

To state again; One game, one votekick, one ban. Sequentially.
You are looking at this from the wrong angle; the kick system works fine but you have abused it.

To get a cooldown for kicking, you have kicked WAY more than what you are admitting to.

I've not been playing the game at all for about a month, besides these two games, so no, you're quite incorrect.

I think my original post was extremely clear; In both cases, I received a 24hr cooldown for *one* kick, of an AFK player, not initiated by me. It is a badly designed system that penalizes using the votekick system regardless of reason *or* frequency.

Originally posted by 𝕯𝖆𝖗𝖌𝖚𝖓𝖊𝖗:
Cooldowns for kicking too many teammates arent stupid. You are the one side of the medal, talking about kicking sparingly and getting a Cooldown for legitimate kickvotes.
But there is also another side, namely players that get kicked for no reason. And there are lots of players that do these kickvotes for no reason.

A lot of the responses here seem to come from people who seem like they *absolutely deserved to be kicked* for their behavior, but insist that they are the ones being "abused" when a team removes them for their bad behavior.

Don't pretend that people kicking others "for no reason" are more common than people being kicked for abusive behavior, because that's a flat out lie. If you are consistently getting kicked from games "for no reason", it's probably not because every team you encounter kicks you "for fun", it's because you've been consistently behaving in a manner that makes *every player on your team* want to exchange you for a Bot.

Remember, Bots are awful, they will run face-first into enemy fire, and yet somehow you're making *that* look appealing by comparison to whatever you've been doing. Maybe it's not the 4 other players to blame every single time if it happens to you more than once a week, huh?

In all my time playing CSGO I've been kicked for "no reason" maybe 3 or 4 times, total. In hundreds of matches, that's insignificant.
Herr Kruelbar® Sep 12, 2019 @ 1:15am 
Feel free to keep kicking then ... but make sure that you don't come and complain here when that week long ban drops.

By the way, if you ask for help and advice, don't be so arrogant as to receive help and then "dis" it. You obviously have a high cooldown level and if you don't read the guide and do as was *strongly* advised, its on you.

Either way, not my problem. GL HF man.
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