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DocCovington Mar 12, 2017 @ 11:26am
The Global Elite = not recommended
So I just decided to watch another GE match on GOTV. The last couple of times I did, I encountered teams consisting of 50-80% spin-botters.

Today, I stumbled into a match that sported the mentally challenged YouTuber Anomaly, who was playing on his new account (the last one was banned, if I remember correctly).

Anyway, things I got to witness:
  • Anomaly's team was trolling one of their mates, team-killing him/her early into the round for several rounds in a row, until he/she reported them for griefing (then they stopped).
  • Toxic language all over the place (rude, discriminatory and downright childish). It felt like watching a casual mode match, where there is a lot of verbal abuse all over the place.
No wonder most GEs I know stopped playing official competitive and rather go to community servers instead. If every single match sports hackers and/or toxic griefers, this is definitely no rank anyone in their right mind would want to achieve. :steamfacepalm:
Last edited by DocCovington; Mar 12, 2017 @ 11:53am
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DocCovington Mar 12, 2017 @ 11:43am 
Just finished, my eyes are still bleeding. I should have recorded this...
Torstbrot Mar 12, 2017 @ 11:56am 
So you are really expecting a girl playing in a random csgo ge match?
jara~ Mar 12, 2017 @ 11:59am 
y
DocCovington Mar 12, 2017 @ 12:00pm 
Originally posted by A sexy Pringle ready to mingle:
So you are really expecting a girl playing in a random csgo ge match?
There are women in the rank of GE, but whether they would want to participate in this toxicity is a different story.

Anyway, please don't turn my thread into another "discussion" (rather flame) about gender and gaming. This topic is about the GE rank and all the hacking and griefing on there, which is a lot worse than in many other skill groups.
Torstbrot Mar 12, 2017 @ 12:09pm 
So you are the GobalElite-Police ?
DocCovington Mar 12, 2017 @ 12:21pm 
Originally posted by A sexy Pringle ready to mingle:
So you are the GobalElite-Police ?
:wtf: No, but I wish I was. I would insta-ban people of any rank behaving like this.

It looks like you have nothing contructive to contribute to this discussion. Like your own experience, for instance? Or do you belong to said hacker or griefer squad yourself?

For I find it sad beyond words that the rank of GE literally means nothing these days thanks to being filled with said filth. It used to be a rank of pride, something many aspired to achieve.
FinalFerrex Mar 12, 2017 @ 12:25pm 
I'm currently a SEM in competitive, trying to improve my rank, so I've also been watching GE matches on GOTV lately to try and see where I can improve (pop flahses, recoil control, etc.).

I'm quite surprised that I've seen a number of players blatently cheating on these matches that ruin the experience for everybody else. When I refer to blatant cheating, this refers to spinbotters and teleporters (I remember one who used .noclip in a match, I mean, seriously?). There are also some suspicous plays every now and then, but since I'm only SEM, I normally don't raise this concern unless it becomes extremely obvious.

Of course, you also have grifers, teamkillers, and others who spam messages by binding key commands as well. Sometimes, I even went as far as muting them so I don't see those useless messages anymore.

Personally, I don't mind competitive or other matches on LAN parties where all players agree to play a certain style or mode and that everybody has a good time. In many cases however, players queue with others usually unknown until they join ingame, and they don't know how they may behave until they start acting like it.

While it's true that this kind of behavior exists in just about every game, I just wish this kind of activity would reduce in CS: GO. I do hope that Valve does step up with their VAC System and that Overwatch continues their part in knocking these cheaters/griefers out of play.
DocCovington Mar 12, 2017 @ 12:32pm 
Originally posted by FinalFerrex csgorewards.co:
I'm currently a SEM in competitive, trying to improve my rank, so I've also been watching GE matches on GOTV lately to try and see where I can improve (pop flahses, recoil control, etc.).

I'm quite surprised that I've seen a number of players blatently cheating on these matches that ruin the experience for everybody else. When I refer to blatant cheating, this refers to spinbotters and teleporters
Like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvyrjxUzyqc
Yes, it's a common sight in GE matches. We all wish that cheating would be generally reduced, but I was shocked to see (and hear from GEs in my friends list) how few truly achieved the GE rank through skill, and how you have to put up with that hacker crap in GE matches all the time. (It makes you want to stay in LEM/SMFC forever.)

As for the toxic behavior, there really should be a broader range of options to protect match participants from it.
Last edited by DocCovington; Mar 12, 2017 @ 12:35pm
FinalFerrex Mar 12, 2017 @ 12:41pm 
What map was that in the video? I assume it was an operation map, but I don't remember it anymore.

Also at the end of the video, if the cheaters really did discuss whose cheats were better, that's just a new low not just in CS, but gaming in general.
halo 2 enjoyer Mar 12, 2017 @ 12:44pm 
You should see how global is at non prime. It's an hvh every game.
halo 2 enjoyer Mar 12, 2017 @ 12:46pm 
Originally posted by ϟ Zeus ϟ:
You should see how global is at non prime. It's an hvh every game.
So unless you have some nice cheats there's no hope for you :flashoflightning:
Toeli Mar 12, 2017 @ 1:08pm 
Global Elite here.

In my entire CS:GO Career I have only witnessed about 3-5 Spinbotters in GE, even less throughout the time it took me to rank up from SEM to GE. The biggest problem in the entire game is the Wallhack, and even that one I´ve probably only seen 20-30 times?

I do not want to talk anybody down here, but many of you call people that did not hack Cheaters. I myself did so too. I can't count the amount of players I called a Cheater for no reason whatsoever, just because I assumed they cheat. The assumption alone switches a Switch in your head which basically makes you surrender the very moment you get killed by the same dude over and over again.
Back when I was in Silver, I was the biggest ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥ in the whole game. The plays I made... I once looked at an old demo I still had on an old Backup-HDD. Wow... I did not even realize the horrible mistakes back then.

Spinbotters are a different story, but in general it is very hard to spot a Wallhack (because you do not see the PoV of the enemy). Usually people get killed by prefire, luckshots and the somewhat random hit registry of CS:GO. There have been many situations where I killed people with headshots (even though I wasn't even remotely near his/her head), and where I got killed even though I was behind a wall etc.

There is a reason why Overwatch got reworked not long ago. Nowadays, only GE players can overwatch GE-Reports. If you show a GE-Game to a Gold Nova player, it is very likely that the GN player might hop on a wrong decision because he missed something a GE player did not.


About the Toxicity... Usually it gets better the higher you go. I once went over to a friend (who was GN2 or GN3 at that time) to help him a bit with improving in the game. Of the five games he played, 3 were filled with at least two people insulting each other and people calling each other out on the public chat. I do not see the reason why people are that toxic, but in general, it gets better the higher one gets. It is seldom the case that people start to flame their own teammates in DMG+. As for MG and lower, I can not tell the situation nowadays. I do not remember such toxicity levels during my own Nova time though.

Summa Summarum: Be very careful with calling others a cheater, because you're wrong in at least 50% of the cases where it is not obvious.
And a small little hint: Do not waste time and focus on figureing out if that guy is cheating or not. Most of the time he isn't and you won't change his mind because you tell him to stop.
Report, and move on.


Vault Hunter 101 Mar 12, 2017 @ 1:14pm 
It's kinda weird but I have friends all over ranks and they either meet hackers everywhere or nowhere (I am not talking about one lucky shot and shouting "HAX HAX!!!") Like I had a global friend who played everyday on CSGO MM in East EU and he rarely met any cheaters... on other site I know some East EU Globals who meet multiple spinbots in nearly every match...

I don't know why some have the luck to avoiding cheaters and some don't :P but regarding your topic I just wanted to say that not every global match is spinbot vs spinbot.. No matter your rank is just play with 4 friends and you enjoy your match even if enemy have spinbot (If you don't care much about dropping to Supreme :P)
Toeli Mar 12, 2017 @ 1:19pm 
Originally posted by Vault Hunter 101:
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I agree with Vault.
Of course there are cheaters in GE, but so there are in every single rank.
Non-Prime, do not even think about playing Non-Prime if you want a decent MM-Experience, because Non-Prime is filled with Smurfs and Cheaters. It shouldn't be too much of a problem for you to attach a phonenumber to your account. You need the Authentificator for Trading as well, so you hit two flies with one hit.

And the ranks are really irrelevant. Even I could get global with a little bit of patience and too much time on my hands. If you gather a few friends, literally everyone reading this can make it to GE. It is only a matter of time and fun.
-- Mar 12, 2017 @ 1:21pm 
"that sported the mentally challenged YouTuber Anomaly"
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lmfao
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