Save file bloated out of control, help please!

[Thylacoleo]

I have no idea why but my save file is bloated to 305mb, I only have two saved characters in game and run less than 90 mods, I use wyre bash. within the last couple days my game just all of a sudden started loading like crap and it takes more than a couple minutes to save, help please!

[Ilja]

First make sure that you do not have mods from this list.

Masterlist : Dangerous, Outdated and Superseded Mods by Nazenn
http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/523890681422555089/

Then make sure that you have installed all Unofficial Patches, if you haven't already done so.

Unofficial Skyrim Patch by Unofficial Patch Project Team
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/19/?

This tool can help you with unclean entries you currently have.

Save game script cleaner by Hadoram
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/52363/?

Tweak to clear invalid registry entries here will help you with future save bloat.

SKSE, memory and skse.ini
http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/540740500921363665/

If you have removed any scripted mods from your ongoing game, then you may end up restarting the game, with better planned combination of mods.

Edit:
Also remember to take care of your load order and resource priorities.

Load order and resource priority basics
http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/523890681419356033/

[Thylacoleo]

when I try to click on my save file like the instructions say, it tell me that it cant open it, suggestions?

[Ilja]

Originally posted by mattstabnow:

when I try to click on my save file like the instructions say, it tell me that it cant open it, suggestions?

Did you mean that you can not open them, when running Save game script cleaner?

[Thylacoleo]

well it says it removed 147 scripts but my save file is still 318000kb like it was before?

[Thylacoleo]

The game overall doesnt load too bad, its mostly the saving that concerns me, id rather not have the game freeze up during a save and it seems to be headed in that direction, im just not sure where this bloat came from all of a sudden

[Lampros]

Yeah, I can imagine this can be an issue. I am barely past the first area, and I am on save 22 - WTF?

[Ilja]

- You had Unofficial Skyrim Patch + DLC patches (if any) installed all the time?
- You did not have any mods that would potentially cause bloating from the list I linked to you?
- You have note removed any scripted mods from ongoing game?

If answers are "yes", "no" and "no", then you may have a problem mod that is not yet listed in Nazenn's thread. It wold be a good thing to isolate it and add it there.

SKSE configuration I posted has options for both clearing old registrations and memory tweak to help you with the loading event. That will help you a bit.

You may wish to post your load order here or Nazenn's thread, so we can start figuring out what is causing your save bloat. Nazenn is not online right now and I have to go bed soon, but I will get to it at morning, if you decide to post your load order for us.

[Thylacoleo]

I apologize as this is starting to get a little over my head, I am not well versed with computers i just usually do basic modding with nexus:/ id be happy to post my load order if you could tell me where to find it as the only list of mods i have is in alphabetical order and i cant copy and paste from my wyre bash

[Blackfox Kitsune]

you need Save game cleaning tool, it will take out some of the unneeded rubbish left from things you've run into, killed, picked up, dropped, or bumpped into, as well as scripts from mods you may have removed and other such clutter.
Save game script cleaner: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/52363/?

[Blackfox Kitsune]

Originally posted by Ilja:

First make sure that you do not have mods from this list.

Masterlist : Dangerous, Outdated and Superseded Mods by Nazenn
http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/523890681422555089/

Then make sure that you have installed all Unofficial Patches, if you haven't already done so.

Unofficial Skyrim Patch by Unofficial Patch Project Team
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/19/?

This tool can help you with unclean entries you currently have.

Save game script cleaner by Hadoram
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/52363/?

Tweak to clear invalid registry entries here will help you with future save bloat.

SKSE, memory and skse.ini
http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/540740500921363665/

If you have removed any scripted mods from your ongoing game, then you may end up restarting the game, with better planned combination of mods.

Edit:
Also remember to take care of your load order and resource priorities.

Load order and resource priority basics
http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/523890681419356033/

WOW all these for a "Bloated Save game" o_o that is likely to BLOAT it more! don't get me wrong they are mostly useful mods and mod users best friends, but for a simple save game issue, all it takes is Hadoram's save game cleaner.

[Thylacoleo]

So I used that script cleaner and it removed 147, i did not do the hashtag thing as i dont know if my mods are compatible, but my game still wont save like it used to, and my file is still at 318,000kb:( p.s. if it helps, ive saved my game A LOT and tried many many character types, I may only have two characters saved on my computer but im currently on save like 400 plus

[Ilja]

Originally posted by Blackfox Kitsune (Whisp Lupa):

you need Save game cleaning tool, it will take out some of the unneeded rubbish left from things you've run into, killed, picked up, dropped, or bumpped into, as well as scripts from mods you may have removed and other such clutter.
Save game script cleaner: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/52363/?

Already ran.

Originally posted by mattstabnow:

I apologize as this is starting to get a little over my head, I am not well versed with computers i just usually do basic modding with nexus:/ id be happy to post my load order if you could tell me where to find it as the only list of mods i have is in alphabetical order and i cant copy and paste from my wyre bash

Hmm... I don't know where to get list out of Wrye Bash either. I only use it to create Bashed Patch. I do my modding with Mod Organizer.

You can of course use LOOT report to provide your load order. Just drag over it, copy and paste.

If we are going to track down a mod that may cause bloating in your game, then alphabetical order is fine as well, but load order would be preferred, in case we notice that there is something off.

Originally posted by Blackfox Kitsune (Whisp Lupa):

WOW all these for a "Bloated Save game" o_o that is likely to BLOAT it more!

- Nazenn's list has mods that are known to create save bloating. Each mod that does so is noted there.

- Several quests in Skyrim can cause save bloat, if Unoffiical Patches are not present. These include, but are not restricted to:
* Companion radiant quests: Each visit to Whiterun will increase save bloating, if save has uncleared quests.
* Thieves Guild radiant jobs: Some of Vex's quests are not cleared and they keep causing a save bloat.
* Some of College of Winterhold quests are also uncleared and cause save bloat.
* Picking up Nirnroots does not clear them. Picked Nirnroots will add to save bloat.

Just to list few common reasons, why I recommend installing Unofficial Patches, also against save bloating.

- Save Game Script Cleaner explains itself.

- SKSE tweak also explains itself. It cleares invalid registrations over time and fixes the unbalanced memory, causing crashing from saves, especially with script heavy saves.

Originally posted by mattstabnow:

So I used that script cleaner and it removed 147, i did not do the hashtag thing as i dont know if my mods are compatible, but my game still wont save like it used to, and my file is still at 318,000kb:( p.s. if it helps, ive saved my game A LOT and tried many many character types, I may only have two characters saved on my computer but im currently on save like 400 plus

How many saves you got in your folder? Believe it or not, but Skyrim has a problem, when you have excessive amount of them. I am keeping amount of my saves around 10-20 at any time in my save folder.

[Uncle64]

You can try to clean it whit Papyrus Transfer that is one another tool.

But for that tool should work properly you need to put on Papyrus logging.

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/53045/?
And it is not so simple then the one Ilja suggested.

But the tool Ilja suggested should have reduced your save.

[Thylacoleo]

all together i have 9 save files, and im having trouble finding where just a list of my mods is stored to copy and paste, id rather not type them all out

[Thylacoleo]

I have no idea what happend, but after saving and loading my game like the instructions said, my game file is now at 410,000kb.. this is going to hell in a handbasket fast