archery training

[MacSuibhne]

I'm a pretty skilled archer but feel I need to move to the next level.

I am a member of the Theives Guild and I have repeatedly approached Niruin to teach me marksmanship. Niruin is the only NPC in the game listed as a master trainer in archery.

The problem is that while he repeatedly offers to train me, there is no dialog that allows me to accept. he says hhe can train me if I have the coin and I do. But no way for me to say 'yes" and "here's the money...let's go."

Anyone have any idea what is going on and/or is there something I'm missing or a way to fix this? Will I do any better with Angi?

[Eramidas]

Is this happening with all trainer NPC's or just this one NPC?

[Eramidas]

If it is only this NPC and you can train with other NPC's I would say to try out this mod. It has an archery trainer
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=154055574

[Urgh]

Sorine Jurard in Dawngurad with the DLC of the same name is also a master trainer.

And you can try doing her archery range http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Angi

Are you level 90 in archery? Is that why he wont teach you?

[MacSuibhne]

It appears to be happening with just this one npc. Again, the problem is not that he will not train me...he is willing, he offers every time I speak to him...the problem is that I have no dialog that lets me take him up on his offers.

I am at level 50 in the game and 96 in archery skills. Why would that make a difference? I am above 90 in several skills...including 2handed...and yet Vilkas trained me just recently.

I may move on to DB but I doubt I'll pick up DG. I don't care for the atmospherics.

As for Skyrim Community College--I am on the vanilla game (no mods) and don't really have the toys to support mods. My cpu is a dual core i5 and my gpu is a geforce 9800 w/512mb of vram.

Beyond that, when I looked at the mod (SCC) I noticed a comment that the instructor in archery was just like Niruin--no dialog appears that allows you to get started.???

[gnewna]

As far as I know, you can't use trainers once you are over level 90 in that skill. I had Skyrim Community College for a bit, but it did cause the vanilla trainers who used the same voice type as the ones in the mod not to be able to train me any more.

[MageThis]

"You may train up to five times per level only, and trainers cannot raise skills past 90- you must obtain the last ten points by using the skill, skill books, or from quest rewards."
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Trainers

[MacSuibhne]

Oh...just reading the UESP wiki and it appears that trainers cannot take you beyond 90.I missed that (even though it is in the first paragraph) Duh!

[Ilja]

If Vilkas have trained your skill above 90, then this was either a bug, you started from below skill 90 (like 88) or some other mod allows a potential follower to train you. That should not happen. No trainer - not even master trainer - is should be able to train you above skill level 90.

[Ilja]

I see that we wrote above each other. If you wish to raise your Archery skill, then have you perhaps already visited a young woman named Angi? Her tasks can raise your skill above 90.

[gnewna]

Additionally, if there are any archey skill books you haven't yet read, it's worth seeking those out.

[MacSuibhne]

Originally posted by Ilja (Ref):

I see that we wrote above each other. If you wish to raise your Archery skill, then have you perhaps already visited a young woman named Angi? Her tasks can raise your skill above 90.

No, I haven't been there yet. I'm currently sitting in Pinewatch (I've got my player parked there) on my way to her camp. That was th eother question I had--the wiki doesn't list her as a trainer but says that shooting with her can raise your skill 6 levels....doesn't say anything about level 90 or about there being a cap for training.

Is there a list of skill books(back to the wiki)? And is there a list of those I've read, somewhere? I run across all kinds of skill books that have names I don't recognize but which it turns out I've read...or at least I don't get any boost from them.

[EbonHawk]

Originally posted by MacSuibhne:

Is there a list of skill books(back to the wiki)? And is there a list of those I've read, somewhere? I run across all kinds of skill books that have names I don't recognize but which it turns out I've read...or at least I don't get any boost from them.

The only related mod that I can think of would be the one that hilights books in the game, depending on whether you've already read them or not. No, there's not a way to check within the game to see which ones you've already read, not that I've ever seen.

The mod I mentioned causes unread books in the game world to glow so you don't waste your time searching on each book to find a new one. It helps in situations when you come across a small mega-library with dozens of shelves...and only a small handful on each shelf have not been read. Instead of going through dozens and dozens of books, that mod makes a few scattered books glow. Very handy, I think, and costs nothing performance-wise.

Now you just need a list of (archery) skill books in the game. I'm sure someone's taken the time at some point to make a guide for those.....

[Vaemer-Riit]

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Trainers

Niruin is a Master trainer for archery and can train from 0 - 90. If you have 96 you are over the amount that he can train.

[Blonde Ranger {GB}]

its probably slightly not the point, but i got my archery skills up by basically shooting the snot out of *everything* (usually while sneaking so i can get the bonuses and to increase that skill too.

[gnewna]

I think Anji's training should count because she isn't a trainer in the same way as, say, Niruin - you don't ask her to train you and pay a fee. Instead, it's like a few of the fetch quests (such as Ysolda's mammoth tusk and Amren's family sword) where they teach you 'a few tricks' (or however the individual NPC describes it) and your skill raises by one point in one or more skills (Ysolda raises you in speech, Amren's 1H + block, I think?) So, Angi gets you to do some archery and when her quest (shoot some stuff) is complete, she rewards you with skill increases in archery.