Joy of Perspective Camera bug

[Blackmagic12345]

Well, heres the deal: im running Joy of Perspective, and in first person view when i look down i can see through my body and when i crouch i just see my body with no head.

Load order first:

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
Falskaar.esm
Wyrmstooth.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
moonpath.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
SGHairPackBase.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
ELFX - Exteriors.esp
immersive roads.esp
SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Complete.esp
SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB + FS + WT.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
TrueStorms.esp
TrueStorms-CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_NL3.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-40.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp
TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-CoT.esp
mintylightningmod.esp
MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp
SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp
SkyFalls DB + FS Small Waterfalls.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
ELFXEnhancer.esp
CinematicFireFX.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
fallentreebridges.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
moonpath_questdata.esp
SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp
ELFX - Moonpath.esp
SFO - Dragonborn.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp
SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp
Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp
FNISspells.esp
SkyUI.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
AH1 piercings.esp
RegnPiercings.esp
The Joy of Perspective.esp
KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
SGHairPackAIO.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp

Install order (bottom to top, MOs idea not mine.) + means installed, - means uninstalled:

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
-Bodyslide UNP Body 0
-Alternate Start - Live Another Life
-BodySlide 2 and Outfit Studio
+KS Hairdos - HDT Physics Fix
+UNPB-BBP v2-2x Pack Fixed Piercings
+RealVision ENB 279b Subsurface Scattering patch
+RealVision ENB 279b particle patch
+Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS spells FIX
+ShowRaceMenu Precache Killer
-Wearable Lanterns
-Vampire Cuirass for TBBP lovers - DreamGirl UNPB CBBE and 7BASE body
-Better Jumping
-Vampire Vanilla Armor Replacer - Newmiller Cuirass UNPB BBP - UNPB TBBP - CBBE - CBBE TBBP - 7BASE TBBP
-Vampire chain cuirass UNPB BBP
-Vampire dark knight 1_09 UNPB
-HDT HighHeels System
-UNP Dragon Tattoos and more
-The Coenaculi - RaceMenu Plugin for Tattoos
-SlaveTats-zoo
-SlaveTats-prostitute
-SlaveTats-symbols
-SlaveTats-submissive
-SlaveTats-sm
-SlaveTats-flirt
-SlaveTats-scrawl
-SlaveTats-property
-Slavetats-preg
-SlaveTats-petplay
-SlaveTats-makeup
-SlaveTats-draconic
-SlaveTats-dominant
-SlaveTats-criminal
-SlaveTats-brat
-SlaveTats-anal
-Slave of the System
-Rutah-nordic
-Rutah-art
-LoreInsults
-Grooovus Slavetats
-Doomsman
-DocClox-civilwar b
-DocClox-civilwar
-B3lisario-stockings
-Additional Tats 1
-SlaveTats
-Realistic Ragdolls and Force
-Pretty Staff And Magic Cast Animations v01.d
-Pretty Sit Idle v1.41c
-Pretty Jump Animations
-Pretty Female Idles
-Pretty Combat Animations 1.36e
-New Animation for Running with Bow
+The Eyes Of Beauty update
+The Eyes Of Beauty
+SG
+KS Hairdos - HDT Physics
+ApachiiSkyHair Females
+ApachiiSkyHair
+XP32 Maximum Skeleton
+The Joy of Perspective
+UNP BLESSED BODY- UNPB REDUX PROJECT
+HDT Breast And Butt Physics - TBBP BBP Supported
+HDT Physics Extensions
+Facial Piercings Optionals
+Facial Piercings update
+Facial Piercings
+AH1
+Enhanced Blood Textures
+RaceMenu
+SkyUI
+Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS spells
+Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS
+JContainers
+Realistic Smoke and Embers
+Dust Effects
+Vivid Landscapes - Tundra Moss Revised SMIM patch
+Vivid Landscapes - Tundra Moss Revised
+Vivid Landscapes - Cliffs and Creeks
+AOF Detailed Mountains
+Transparent wave spray Retexture by Pfuscher
+Watercolor for ENB and Realistic Water Two
+Realistic Water Two
+RUGNAROK
+High Definition Ivy
+Natural Grass Texture Floor
+Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin Update
+Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin
+Fences of Skyrim - No more flickering fences
+Immersive Fallen Trees Mod
+4K Parallax Treebark
+Skysight - Simply Bigger Trees
+TreesHD_Skyrim_Variation
+Skyrim Flora Overhaul
+Immersive Roads
+aMidianBorn Caves and Mines
+Vivid Landscapes - Volcanic Area
+Vivid Landscapes - Dungeons and Ruins SMIM patch
+Vivid Landscapes - Dungeons and Ruins ELFX patch
+Vivid Landscapes - Dungeons and Ruins
+Skyrim HD - 2K Textures
+Static Mesh Improvement Mod
+SkyFalls + SkyMills
+The Skyrim Distance Overhaul Beta (S.D.O.)
+HD Enhanced Terrain
+Cinematic Fire Effects 2 HD
+Ruins Clutter Improved
+Climates Of Tamriel - Dragonborn Patch
+RealVision ENB 279b
+Wyrmstooth
+Unofficial Dragonborn Patch
*Unmanaged: Dragonborn
+Unofficial Hearthfire Patch
*Unmanaged: HearthFires
+Unofficial Dawnguard Patch
*Unmanaged: Dawnguard
+Unofficial Skyrim Patch
+Enhanced Lights and FX
+Falskaar
+Moonpath to Elsweyr
+Lightning during Thunder Storms - Climates of Tamriel - Patch
+Lightning during Thunder Storms
+True Storms - Thunder and Rain Redone v1.5
+Climates of Tamriel - Weather Patch
+Supreme Storms
+Project Reality - Climates Of Tamriel-V3
*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack01
*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack02
*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack03

Screenshots can be found here (no way i can make them ~75kb each.)
http://imgur.com/a/6p9E5

[cfs111]

Try matching left pane order to right pane load order. You will have to do so manually.

[Blackmagic12345]

tried it, didnt work...

EDIT > hang on, could it be because i have no animations installed yet? ive pretty much chosen "default" and "vanilla" for anims from XPMS and UNPB expecting to install the animation mods listed in the modlist... The only animations that are installed are the ones from JoP itself which i believe only cover sneak roll, power attacks, casting, and a few other basics.

[cfs111]

Maybe this is the issue. "This mod is NOT compatible with any mod which changes the first person skeleton (Including XP32's '1stp TJoP compatible skeleton' until he updates it), camera or animations. If you can see down your characters neck and the camera is too high then you may well have such a mod installed. Just reinstall this mod overwriting all files when prompted."

From http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/6002/?tab=4&&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fskyrim%2Fajax%2Fcomments%2F%3Fmod_id%3D6002%26page%3D1%26sort%3DDESC%26pid%3D0%26thread_id%3D526475&pUp=1

Edit: the issue may be using a skeleton at all.

[Blackmagic12345]

hmm, sounds interesting... let me try it.

EDIT -> uninstalled XPMS, tried, nothing. Then reinstalled UNPB without skeleton and still no change...

[cfs111]

Looking over the notes on this mod, it doesn't appear to work well much at all. Animations, physics, skeletons, body replacers. A lot!!

[Blackmagic12345]

Originally posted by cfs111:

Looking over the notes on this mod, it doesn't appear to work well much at all. Animations, physics, skeletons, body replacers. A lot!!

yeah its starting to seem that way, although for some reason a few days ago (before this whole debacle started) it was working just fine with XPMS and UNPB w/ skeletons enabled... I did notice a weird issue with AH1 piercings though... I had to mess with both orders a little (ended up having to install and load AH1 before the skeletons, seems to not work anymore)

[cfs111]

I have no idea why conflicting mods will work for a time then all of a sudden... You may want to double check all your mods description, posts and forums pages just to double check.

[Blackmagic12345]

FOUND THE PROBLEM:
Stupid ass patch for AH1, i went and put it at the end of the install order... Turns out it contains a ****ton of skeleton stuff... Popped it down on the list right after AH1 and before the skeletons, and boom. fix.
Thanks for taking the time to give me a hand :D

[kdodds]

JoP and IFPV both have clipping issues, IFPV less so. Enhanced Camera, so far for me, only has one minimal clipping issue on the armor table with the left tool. That;s the only clip I've found so far and I've tried FP and 3P, looking down while walking, running, swimming, no issues so far. This is possibly a problem that can't be fixed until the modder's next revision.