What base mods are needed in Skyrim to let most all other mods to function and what order should you install them?

[zzzzz]

I Have searched everywhere for a guide and let me tell you there is nothing. All I want to know is what base mods such as Patches, Race Menu, FNIS, XP32, etc. Are needed in Skyrim to let most other mods work and function without having to do these later and overwrite the wrong files and corrupt your whole game which isn't very fun. I have probably broke my Skyrim 100% of the time I have tried modding it. If anyone could make like a bulleted list starting from first to last that would be amaze balls and maybe this can help some other people too. Thank You ;)

HUGE THANKS to cfs111 for setting up a full mod list and handling my idiocracy with modding.

[Ilja]

You pretty much described them already. What is important is the the order they are loaded, but especially with skeleton, the resource priority it gets.

Load order and resource priority basics
http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/523890681419356033/

If that is a problem for you (as it is for most), I would recommend moving to Mod Organizer - if you haven't already done so. Managing resource priorities is much easier and safer with it, although initially more troublesome.

Check out our pinned topics for bug fixes and modding information. I have gathered most relevant threads here.

Player spreadsheet
http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/594821545176386165/

[kdodds]

Need is subjective.

Tools: LOOT, TES5Edit to clean your masters, probably Wrye Bash, and if not using the WS, I would seriously recommend MO over NMM.

Mods: At the core, SKSE, SkyUI (for MCM), the Unofficial Patches (be aware that USLEEP is in Beta and some mods may move over right away, others may never move over), ENB and ENBoost. Now, some mods have dependencies, and some don't. You don't necessarily need any more than the above.

[zzzzz]

Ok I understand but the whole point behind this thread is to have them all listed so I myself dont know it all but ex.
1.Unofficial ?
2.Unofficial ?
3.Unofficial ?
4.Unofficial ?
5.Race Menu
6.Race Menu Precache
7.FNIS
8.XP32
and so on
I tend to overwrite files I should not because I install in terrible order which in turn leads to the program asking if I would like to overwrite (blank) because (blank) already has that file.

[zzzzz]

I understand you need Loot etc. also but I asked for core mods not the loaders. Typing this even sounds rude so I have no doubt reading this may be the same way but I have no intention of being rude so If comes off that way im extremely sorry.

[cfs111]

If you post the mods you want to use, I will teach you how to choose and install them properly. First, which modmanagement tool do you use, NMM or MO? If it is Workshop I can not help. Also, I use the Nexus only, I have a premium membership and I am used to it there so it is where I will work from.
List the mods you want this way
SkyUI 3863 (Nexus link is this nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/3863/? you can see where I got the number from)
Skyrim Flora Overhaul 141
etc.
Try to hold it to 10-20 mods.

Again I will gladly teach you the correct method, not do it for you. I will also need your system specs. Like this

FX9590 4.7 GHz 8 core
8GB RAM
Radeon R9 280x 3.5 GB VRam
Windows 10

List what tools you also already have, TES5Edit, Wrye Bash, LOOT, FNIS etc.

If this is what you want just post the info requested here.

[zzzzz]

I use NMM as well as it gets updated regularly and is getting much better. I tend to go for immersive mods which is whu i have so much trouble. I use immersive armours, weapons, archery, hunterborn, dualsheath, and so on with immersive mods but using mods like dual sheath, heel extinsion, hdt physics, realistic ragdoll, and those mods need a certain mod order which i do not know I will get back to you with a real list but thats what you should base off for now thank you.

Originally posted by cfs111:

If you post the mods you want to use, I will teach you how to choose and install them properly. First, which modmanagement tool do you use, NMM or MO? If it is Workshop I can not help. Also, I use the Nexus only, I have a premium membership and I am used to it there so it is where I will work from.
List the mods you want this way
SkyUI 3863 (Nexus link is this nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/3863/? you can see where I got the number from)
Skyrim Flora Overhaul 141
etc.
Try to hold it to 10-20 mods.

Again I will gladly teach you the correct method, not do it for you. I will also need your system specs. Like this

FX9590 4.7 GHz 8 core
8GB RAM
Radeon R9 280x 3.5 GB VRam
Windows 10

List what tools you also already have, TES5Edit, Wrye Bash, LOOT, FNIS etc.

If this is what you want just post the info requested here.

[kdodds]

First, NMM is a beta and those routine updates are NOT necessarily a good thing. Just recently they hosed a bunch of people with an update. The last I used it, NMM resorted load order just by opening it. This is a terrible thing when you're less informed and therefore need a stable system with minimal effort. I would seriously suggest using Mod Organizer instead.

Your load order matters. For the most part, order of installation is not important unless one mod has or needs a patch for another mod. For example, Pure Water and Falskaar. If you install Pure Waters first, you'll need to reinstall it after you install Falskaar if you also want it to work in Falskaar. This is a simple example and there are MANY, MANY mods like this. Way too many for any of us to go through tens of thousands of mods and list them all. This is part of why your proposed list is so important.

Another reason your proposed list is important is because some mods may not be compatible with others. This can lead to mods that are not full functional but stable or it can make your game unplayable. Other mods have conditional installs. For instance, Civil War Overhaul and Requiem must be loaded before you start a new game and will be unstable to unplayable on pre-existing saves. Others, like Helgen Reborn, can't be started until AFTER you've been through Helgen at the beginning.

The mods you listed should be able to be installed in any order. This is NOT the same as load order. I think you're confusing the two. Load order is handled by LOOT. After you've downloaded and installed your mods, you run LOOT to sort them.

You really need, I think, to check out the threads Ilja linked to. You might also want to check out some beginner tutorials on mod installing.

[Ilja]

Originally posted by Red Eyed Tyga:

I understand you need Loot etc. also but I asked for core mods not the loaders. Typing this even sounds rude so I have no doubt reading this may be the same way but I have no intention of being rude so If comes off that way im extremely sorry.

Didn't take that as a rude. I posted the load order thread, because you mentioned overwriting wrong files in OP. I hoped it would get you along.

You also mentioned files being corrupted. Unless Skyrim especially tells you that file is corrupted, then that is not the case. Save crashing from load is not corrupted and can be perfectly playable. Is Skyrim really telling you that files are corrupted, or are they just crashing on load?

About essential mods: I think we covered them quite well in threads linked under Player Spreadsheet. My own "Small list of little big mods" and Nazenn's thread about dangerous mods should give quite good pointers. If you need something else, then just ask.

About XP32 Skeleton; the original file is getting really old. Groovtama made the extended XPMSE version from it. It is still under development and kept up to date. Groovtama, Fore (FNIS) and Expired (RaceMenu) tend to work together - more or less - so XPMSE would be a better choice than the original one. It is available in Nexus.

[zzzzz]

Like I said earlier I will build a list but I also have work to do ATM It should be up later tonight.

[Mreisse]

My suggestion is you definitely should use Mod Organizer. You will not have to care about install order and overwriting anything because MO puts them in virtual directories, and you can drag and drop the mods into the correct load order after they're installed. Plus MO profiles allow you to set up mods several ways and you can swap them out with a selection Dropbox. (I think NMM has profiles as well now, but I can't comment on how it works at all)

As for the unofficial patches, you need one for each part you have, even the hi res one. So, if you have only Dragonborn, you need the skyrim and Dragonborn patches

[zzzzz]

These are the mods I ussually install and some of them have the same files that overwrite one another making the game unplayable. And Yes I Use TES Edit etc. to check load order they are always fine its the order in which I install because some of these mods want to install the same named file somewhere and it breaks my game. I check for compatiibility etc. and they work together but since some want to install the same thing somewhere it just doesnt work/breaks. I usually install a lot but this list is somewhere around what I ussually have. I cant guarnte this is my exact list because I tend to change things up but I always break my game any ways so I have never actually got to play with any of them ;) P.S its not in any order just lookin off nexus for what I use

1.SkyUI
2.All Unoffical Patches
3.Hothtroopers Immersive Armors and Weapons
4. A quality world map
5.Race menu
6.FNIS
7.Alternate Start
8.Xp32 or xp32e what ever u recomend ;)
9.ShowRaceMenus Precache Killer
10.Realistic Ragdolls and Force
11.HDT Physics Extensions
12.The forgoten City
13.Enhanced Character Edit
14.Falskaar
15.Apocalypse-Magic Of Skyrim + other magic mods ill add to this list
16.UFO
17.Amazing Follower Tweaks
18.The Dance of Death
19.I think one of my mods require Bodyslide 2 So body slide 2
20. Run For your lives
21.Skyrim Enhanced Camera
22.Imersie Patrols
23.Hdt HighHeels System
24.Skyrim Immersive Creatures
25.iHUD
26.Guard Dialogue Over Haul
27.Imersive Citizens
28.Sound Of Skyrim Collection
29.Helgen Reborn
30.Sofia Follower ;)
31.Inigo Follower + More ill add in the future probably
32.Dual Sheath Redux
33.Bandolier -Bags and Pouches
34.Stons of Barenziah Quest Markers
35.Skyrim community Uncapper
36.When Vampires Attack
37.NetImmerse Overide - Needed in one of the mods
38.Immersive Animations
39.Interseting NPCs
40.JaySuS Swords
41.Safety Load
42.Wyrmstooth
43.Amorous Adventures
44.Better Dialouge Controls.
45.The Paarthurnax Dilemma
46.Complete Alchemy and Cooking Overhaul
47.Molag Bal's Inferno
48.Moonpath To Elsweyr
49.Better Vampires + Royal Bloodline + Requim all the mods needed for Better Vamps To work
50.Immersive First Person view
51.Archery Gameplay Overhaul
52.Ordinator - Persk Of Skyrim
53.Better MessageBox Controls
54.Weapons and Armor Fixes Remade
55. Complete Crafting Overhaul Remade
56. Expanded Towns and Cities
57. Skyrim Project Optimization
58.Unique Uniques
59.Darkend
60.moreHUD
61.Stable uGridsToLoad
62.Brawl Bugs Patch
63.Glowing Ore Veins
64.My Home Is your Home
65.Immersive College Of Winterhold
66.No SPinning Death Animation
67.Warzones 2015
68.Sneak Tools
That should be the end of the list lol kept it to 10-20

[cfs111]

Starting to work on it now. might be tomorrow or the next day berofre I am done. I will be asking for links to some of these.

This one first, The Forgotten City. Remember all I need is it's number on Nexus see post above for how.

Falskaar
UFO
Skyrim Enhanced Camera
HDT High Heels
Skyrim immersive creatures
Immersive Citizens

[cfs111]

Also
Sound of Skyrim Collection
Helgen Reborn
Sofia Follower
Inigo Follower
Dual Sheath Redux
Bandolier - Bags and Pouches
Stones of Baranzar Quest Markers
Skyrim Community Uncapper
Interesting NPC's
Wyrmstooth
Amourous Adventures
Complete Alchemy and Cooking Overhaul
Molag Bals Inferno
MOONpath to elsweyr
Archery Gameplay Overhaul
Ordinator
Expanded Towns and Cities
Unigue Unigues
Darkend
MoreHud
My Home is your home
Immersive College of Winterhold
No spinning death animation
Warzones 2015
Sneak Tools.

I need links to these

[zzzzz]

They are all within the top files 200 and under

[zzzzz]

Click on files then top files ;)
It will be way quicker than linking them all