Skyrim random crashes with mods, no reason, need help

[Kane the ram]

So I just got an entirely new computer that I built myself. I installed Skyrim, installed some mods and got to playing. It wouldn't run on my last computer because it apparently just wasn't good enough, but now that I've got this new one, I thought everything would be okay. Randomly, either upon loading the game or after playing for around 15-20 minutes, my game will either CTD with no error or just stop responding. It's not a hardware issue because this computer is brand new and very powerful, and LOOT doesn't say there's a load order problem. I'm using Mod Organizer. My load order is as follows:

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Falskaar.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
SkyMoMod.esm
Nock2Tip.esm
Gray Fox Cowl.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
SkyUI.esp
Tes Arena - Skyrim Frontier Fortress.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
OBIS.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Beasts of Tamriel.esp
Cloaks.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
OBISDB.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-DG-DB-MM-SiC EBT Patch v4.esp
Vivid Landscapes.esp
Unique Dragon Priest Masks.esp
UnreadBooksGlow.esp
ScopedBows.esp
ScopedBows_EagleEyeTweak.esp
N2T IW.esp
N2T Scoped Bows.esp
Nock2Tip.esp
ScopedBows_ArrowTweaks.esp
LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp
LeftHandRings.esp
Darkend.esp
Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp
VioLens.esp
JaxonzNameGen.esp
InigoPerkPointGiver.esp
templeofjon.esp
summersetisles.esp
IceBladeOfTheMonarch.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
GreenWaterFix_Compatible.esp
Weightless Items - Alchemy Ingredients.esp
Weightless Items - Armor (Jewelry).esp
Weightless Items - Books (All Books).esp
Weightless Items - Food (All Food).esp
Weightless Items - Misc (Gemstones).esp
Weightless Items - Misc (Metal Ingots).esp
Weightless Items - Potions (All Potions and Poisons).esp
ogDiverseDragons2.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

There are no conflictions or anything, and there's no crash logging. Does anyone know what to do?

[cfs111]

Have you manually sorted your left pane to mostly match your right pane?
Load order and resource priority basics
http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/523890681419356033/

[Kane the ram]

No, I haven't, mostly because I thought LOOT was supposed to do exactly what it should do...? I'm really confused, and even if I did manually sort it to best match the left, what if it still doesn't work? What then?

[cfs111]

No, sort your left pane to match the right. You are correct that LOOT does the right pane, you need to do the left pane. My load order is here, plugins tab is right pane and modlist tab is left pane. Numerically they do not match, but the mods that show in the right pane are ordered the same as my LOOTed right pane.
http://www.modwat.ch/u/cfs3rd

[Kane the ram]

Well, I can't get it EXACTLY like my right pane because some of the mods have multiple ESPs that don't show up in the left pane but do in the right pane. Is that okay or do I need to figure out where to put those mods in the left pane? Like, for example, OBIS after LOOT runs it in the right pane has Immersive Creatures both above and below it, but there's only one Immersive Creatures in the left pane. So what would that be?

[cfs111]

Go with the highest (lowest number) esp and match that one. In my modlist ELFX has a number of esp's, the first esp shows up at number 32, in the right pane, between Aquisitive Soulgems and Castle Volkihar Rebuilt. So in my left pane it is number 75, but still between Aquisitive Soul Gems and Castle Volkihar.

Edit: spelling

[Kane the ram]

引用自 cfs111：

Go with the highest (lowest number) esp and match that one. In my modlist ELFX has a number of esp's, the first esp shows up at number 32, in the right pane, between Aquisitive Soulgems and Castle Volkihar Rebuilt. So in my left pane it is number 75, but still between Aquisitive Soul Gems and Castle Volkihar.

Edit: spelling

Well thank you, though I'm not sure exactly what you mean? Like, my MO screen looks like this: http://imgur.com/09NG49m

As you can see I've done my best to put the ones on the left like they are on the right, but there are multiples on the right that aren't on the left. Can you take a look at the picture and please elaborate on what I should be doing? Also, TES5Edit says Dawnguard needs Update.esm and it crashes because apparently Dawnguard doesn't have an update, weirdly, and Wrye Bash won't show any of the mods I have installed for the bashed patch for Beasts of Tamriel to be compatible with Monster Mod and Immersive creatures, and I removed Beasts of Skyrim and the game still crashes. Any idea?

[cfs111]

Easier way for us to see what you got going on...in the folder \mod organizer\profiles\<your profile> open the file modlist.txt in Notepad and copy and paste it here, deleting any mods with a - beside it, leaving the ones with a +. Now do the same for the plugins.txt file in the same location.

[cfs111]

OK, on my computer so I can see your pic better. 11-25 is correct. 3 and 4 are wrong should be
*Unmanaged: Dawnguard
*Unmanaged: HearthFires
*Unmanaged: Dragonborn
+Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch
+Falskaar

[Kane the ram]

引用自 cfs111：

OK, on my computer so I can see your pic better. 11-25 is correct. 3 and 4 are wrong should be
*Unmanaged: Dawnguard
*Unmanaged: HearthFires
*Unmanaged: Dragonborn
+Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch
+Falskaar

But in the left panel I just put those mods where they are on the right. They're not wrong because they're on the right side of the panel after running LOOT.

*Unmanaged: Bashed Patch, 0
+RUGNAROK
+KenMOD - Lockpick Pro - Cheat
+Unread Books Glow
+Skyrim HD - 2K Textures
+CHSBHC - BBP - Nude and Jiggly Mod
+HDT Physics Extensions
+XP32 Maximum Skeleton
+Better males - Beautiful nudes and faces - New hairstyles
+DIMONIZED UNP female body
+Alternate Start - Live Another Life
+Diverse Dragons Collection 2.0
+Weightless Items - 45 Versions - All DLC
+Green Water Fix
+Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim
+Artifacts - The Ice Blade Of The Monarch
+Summerset Isle
+Perk Point Book - SKSE
+Jaxonz Real Names
+VioLens - A Killmove Mod
+Beast Skeletons
+Darkend
+Left Hand Rings
+Nock to Tip Compatabilty Patches
+Scoped Bows 3.1.1_Marksman Edition
+Unique Dragon Priest Masks - HD textures
+Vivid Landscapes - All in One
+Enhanced Blood Textures
+Static Mesh Improvement Mod
+Immersive Weapons
+Realistic Ragdolls and Force
+Cloaks of Skyrim
+Immersive Armors
+OBIS - Organized Bandits In Skyrim
+Skyrim Immersive Creatures
+Book Covers Skyrim
+Legendary cities - Tes Arena - Skyrim Frontier Fortress
+SkyUI
*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack03
*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack02
*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack01
+The Gray Cowl of Nocturnal
+Nock to Tip
+Monster Mod
+Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch
+Falskaar
*Unmanaged: Dragonborn
*Unmanaged: HearthFires
*Unmanaged: Dawnguard

So what now? None of the mods had a - in front of them.

[cfs111]

Post your plugins.txt file as well please, or in LOOT upper right click on the three dots then choose copy load order and paste it here. For sure though, you need to make these changes;
+Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch
+Falskaar
It shoukd always be Dragonborn then USLEEP in left and right panes.

Then the end of your left pane should be;
+XP32 Maximum Skeleton
+Alternate Start - Live Another Life
*Unmanaged: Bashed Patch, 0 (why is this unmanaged? It should not be.)

Do you have a save or are we trying to fix Skyrim for a new game? Reason I ask; Summerset Ilses is currently considered unstable, lots of people have no issues but others have problems. Also, you are using an older skeleton XPMSE is the most current. Been awhile since I used XPMS are you sure you are not missing any required mods?

[Kane the ram]

引用自 cfs111：

Post your plugins.txt file as well please, or in LOOT upper right click on the three dots then choose copy load order and paste it here. For sure though, you need to make these changes;
+Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch
+Falskaar
It shoukd always be Dragonborn then USLEEP in left and right panes.

Then the end of your left pane should be;
+XP32 Maximum Skeleton
+Alternate Start - Live Another Life
*Unmanaged: Bashed Patch, 0 (why is this unmanaged? It should not be.)

Do you have a save or are we trying to fix Skyrim for a new game? Reason I ask; Summerset Ilses is currently considered unstable, lots of people have no issues but others have problems. Also, you are using an older skeleton XPMSE is the most current. Been awhile since I used XPMS are you sure you are not missing any required mods?

Alright, so for some reason, LOOT doesn't show ANY mods, it only shows my DLC and the Bashed Patch. The same goes for Wrye Bash and TES5Edit, so I can't organize my mods outside of MO because MO is the only one that shows my mods, and LOOT runs and organizes my mods through MO. And I've been tiching to try out the Summerset Isles mod for a while, and the Skeleton thing shouldn't be an issue because I got all the mods required for it.

EDIT: Also I guess at this point just a new save, but it just crashes on my current one and it always has crashed no matter what I have. Could it be an issue with the High Res Texture Pack DLC? I've heard those cause issues.

[cfs111]

LOOT must be run through MO, in MO upper right click on the drop down menu to the left of the run button and choose LOOT. Click on the Run button. After running LOOT be sure to click on the button in the upper right that says "Sort" when hovered over, then click "Apply" once it appears.

[cfs111]

Ok, for the starting a new game you should switch to XPMSE
XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended - XPMSE by Groovtama
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/68000/?

Note that it has required mods such as FNIS.
Yes you should get rid of the High Res Textures, they are poorly optimized, use Optimized Vanilla Textures instead, I cover how to install them in my guide;
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=647933000

Set up the memory tweak for SKSE if you have not already done so.
Ilja's SKSE, memory and skse.ini Guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/540740500921363665/

[Kane the ram]

Oooooooh, okay, thank you, so here's my mod load order:

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Falskaar.esm
6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
7 7 SkyMoMod.esm
8 8 Nock2Tip.esm
9 9 Gray Fox Cowl.esm
10 a HighResTexturePack01.esp
11 b HighResTexturePack02.esp
12 c HighResTexturePack03.esp
13 d SkyUI.esp
14 e Tes Arena - Skyrim Frontier Fortress.esp
15 f Book Covers Skyrim.esp
16 10 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
17 11 OBIS.esp
18 12 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
19 13 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
20 14 Cloaks.esp
21 15 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
22 16 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
23 17 Immersive Weapons.esp
24 18 OBISDB.esp
25 19 SMIM-Merged-All.esp
26 1a dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
27 1b dD-DG-DB-MM-SiC EBT Patch v4.esp
28 1c Vivid Landscapes.esp
29 1d Unique Dragon Priest Masks.esp
30 1e UnreadBooksGlow.esp
31 1f ScopedBows.esp
32 20 ScopedBows_EagleEyeTweak.esp
33 21 N2T IW.esp
34 22 N2T Scoped Bows.esp
35 23 Nock2Tip.esp
36 24 ScopedBows_ArrowTweaks.esp
37 25 LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp
38 26 LeftHandRings.esp
39 27 Darkend.esp
40 28 Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp
41 29 VioLens.esp
42 2a JaxonzNameGen.esp
43 2b InigoPerkPointGiver.esp
44 2c summersetisles.esp
45 2d IceBladeOfTheMonarch.esp
46 2e Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
47 2f GreenWaterFix_Compatible.esp
48 30 Weightless Items - Alchemy Ingredients.esp
49 31 Weightless Items - Armor (Jewelry).esp
50 32 Weightless Items - Books (All Books).esp
51 33 Weightless Items - Food (All Food).esp
52 34 Weightless Items - Misc (Gemstones).esp
53 35 Weightless Items - Misc (Metal Ingots).esp
54 36 Weightless Items - Potions (All Potions and Poisons).esp
55 37 ogDiverseDragons2.esp
56 38 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
57 39 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

So there's that.

引用自 cfs111：

Ok, for the starting a new game you should switch to XPMSE
XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended - XPMSE by Groovtama
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/68000/?

Note that it has required mods such as FNIS.
Yes you should get rid of the High Res Textures, they are poorly optimized, use Optimized Vanilla Textures instead, I cover how to install them in my guide;
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=647933000

Set up the memory tweak for SKSE if you have not already done so.
Ilja's SKSE, memory and skse.ini Guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/540740500921363665/

Aaahhh, alright, thank you very much! I'll get right on this and let you know how it goes!

[Black Album]

If you don't mind me chipping in ... but cfs111 is the real expert ... do what he suggests and you'll be fine ... anyway
You should swap 5 and 6 around ... USLEEP then Falskaar