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OwedEvil 2016 年 4 月 26 日 下午 2:02
Tetrachromatic ENB?
Has anyone used it? https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/73848/?

How does it compare to Realvision ENB, anyone know? I hear it's supposed to be better. Thanks for any info.
最后由 OwedEvil 编辑于; 2016 年 4 月 26 日 下午 2:03
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Falro the Great 2016 年 4 月 26 日 下午 3:19 
I've used it. I personally like it, but it's a bit oversaturated for my tastes. Definitely a lot more saturated than RealVision. Try it out, see if you like it. It's also got fewer requirements, which is nice.
OwedEvil 2016 年 4 月 26 日 下午 4:24 
引用自 Falro the Great
I've used it. I personally like it, but it's a bit oversaturated for my tastes. Definitely a lot more saturated than RealVision. Try it out, see if you like it. It's also got fewer requirements, which is nice.
Less requirements? Looking for the highest quality ENB. Seems like it might not be then?
Falro the Great 2016 年 4 月 26 日 下午 5:23 
引用自 Owedevil
引用自 Falro the Great
I've used it. I personally like it, but it's a bit oversaturated for my tastes. Definitely a lot more saturated than RealVision. Try it out, see if you like it. It's also got fewer requirements, which is nice.
Less requirements? Looking for the highest quality ENB. Seems like it might not be then?
Sorry, I meant fewer required mods. It's a fair bit more demanding, hardware-wise.
OwedEvil 2016 年 4 月 26 日 下午 5:45 
引用自 Falro the Great
引用自 Owedevil
Less requirements? Looking for the highest quality ENB. Seems like it might not be then?
Sorry, I meant fewer required mods. It's a fair bit more demanding, hardware-wise.
Oh, wonderful, thx.
kdodds 2016 年 4 月 26 日 下午 6:00 
引用自 Owedevil
引用自 Falro the Great
I've used it. I personally like it, but it's a bit oversaturated for my tastes. Definitely a lot more saturated than RealVision. Try it out, see if you like it. It's also got fewer requirements, which is nice.
Less requirements? Looking for the highest quality ENB. Seems like it might not be then?
"Highest quality" is entirely subjective, and, unfortunately, in the context you've used, not quite clear. Usually, when used as you've used it, it's meaning is something along the lines of "I want a card melting ENB with every single effect turned up as card-meltingly hard as it can be because more is better.

Personally, I would argue that these ENBs are rather low-quality, not carefully considered, and just turned up to 11. I would also argue that ENBs that shoot for a particular look with considerations towards that theme in all facets, as well as tradeoff performance/pleasure wisely are of far higher quality.

To this end, I would recommend RealVision, Project, Seasons of Skyrim, all of which are fairly similar. And for others not particularly to my taste, Bleak, K ENB Pure Lights, Phinix Natural, Natural Lighting and Atmospherics. Bleak is probably the closest to Vanilla feel. K ENB and NLA are more JRPG/Fantasy themed, and Phinix is about as close as I can get to recommending a cinematic ENB.

I tend to like more closer to realistic ENBs, like the first three I mentioned above. Of those three, RealVision Lite is probably the best performer. Of the remainder, the only one I'm considering using is Bleak for a vampire playthrough, very appropriate in the gothic vampire sense.
OwedEvil 2016 年 4 月 26 日 下午 7:54 
引用自 kdodds
引用自 Owedevil
Less requirements? Looking for the highest quality ENB. Seems like it might not be then?
"Highest quality" is entirely subjective, and, unfortunately, in the context you've used, not quite clear.
Hmm, to be more specific, a ENB with the best graphical quality. ....Umm.... I thought that was quite clear, and blatantly implied.

引用自 kdodds
Usually, when used as you've used it, it's meaning is something along the lines of "I want a card melting ENB with every single effect turned up as card-meltingly hard as it can be because more is better.
That just sounds like a poorly optimized, buggy, broken, glitched, etc., etc. ENB. HOWEVER, if a ENB was SO graphically intense, so photorealistic that it actually kicked cards in teh balls, then that'd be something worth trying. Maybe that'd be elitist, but certainly an experience if you got the card. No doubt.

引用自 kdodds
引用自 Owedevil
Less requirements? Looking for the highest quality ENB. Seems like it might not be then?

Personally, I would argue that these ENBs are rather low-quality, not carefully considered, and just turned up to 11. I would also argue that ENBs that shoot for a particular look with considerations towards that theme in all facets, as well as tradeoff performance/pleasure wisely are of far higher quality.
You simply described a balanced ENB trading off and balancing quality and performance.





引用自 kdodds
To this end, I would recommend RealVision, Project, Seasons of Skyrim, all of which are fairly similar. And for others not particularly to my taste, Bleak, K ENB Pure Lights, Phinix Natural, Natural Lighting and Atmospherics. Bleak is probably the closest to Vanilla feel. K ENB and NLA are more JRPG/Fantasy themed, and Phinix is about as close as I can get to recommending a cinematic ENB.[/quote}****************************
You kinda recommended them all. But thanks for teh info,************************

引用自 kdodds
I tend to like more closer to realistic ENBs, like the first three I mentioned above. Of those three, RealVision Lite is probably the best performer. Of the remainder, the only one I'm considering using is Bleak for a vampire playthrough, very appropriate in the gothic vampire sense.
*************************************Again, looking for quality. Bleak ENB looks like it'd be nice and atmospheric for a Vamp toon.**************
***************************EDIT;For some FK'd reason the formatting crapped out. Excuse the " * "
最后由 OwedEvil 编辑于; 2016 年 4 月 26 日 下午 8:11
Mr. Mannperson 2016 年 4 月 26 日 下午 8:03 
I was going to say something about poo on the camera lens...
B-but that ENB looks flippin pretty.... o_o

I use bleak tho...I think. It's probably not workin cause it don't look very bleak 2 me.
kdodds 2016 年 4 月 26 日 下午 8:23 
引用自 Owedevil
引用自 kdodds
"Highest quality" is entirely subjective, and, unfortunately, in the context you've used, not quite clear.
Hmm, to be more specific, a ENB with the best graphical quality. ....Umm.... I thought that was quite clear, and blatantly implied.

Nope, still not clear, sorry. "Best" is still completely subjective. Examples: let's say you MUST have lens flare and I abhor it. Any ENB I would consider "best" you wouldn't like and any ENB you would consider best, I wouldn't like. Which is better? The Corvette or the Silverado? Jump on the 'vette if you want, just don't drive it in the snow, or on a dirt track, or plan on hauling anything.

I listed the three I consider to be the best and gave an honorable mention to Bleak. RealVision and Project are about even in performance. Seasons of Skyrim is a bit less saturated and sometimes a bit more grim/darker. Bleak is the best, IMO, of the less saturated ENBs.

Tetrachromatic, for me, is... weirdish. It's got a lot of lean towards super-unrealistic ENBs like Poupourri. For me, especially for what it does to color and creating inconsistency of feel, it's not a very good ENB at all.

So, I repeat, what are you looking for in an ENB?
Rüdiger J Simpson 2016 年 4 月 27 日 上午 4:16 
that's why there are pictures (or even videos) of ENB presets included, so you can see yourself if you like it or not. not sure what folks here should tell you. tetra is a great fantasy preset, if you like this style, go for it. if you prefer realvision, stay with that. or you could just try it out, it's not science.
最后由 Rüdiger J Simpson 编辑于; 2016 年 4 月 27 日 上午 4:16
OwedEvil 2016 年 4 月 27 日 上午 4:24 
引用自 kdodds
引用自 Owedevil
Hmm, to be more specific, a ENB with the best graphical quality. ....Umm.... I thought that was quite clear, and blatantly implied.

Nope, still not clear, sorry. "Best" is still completely subjective. Examples: let's say you MUST have lens flare and I abhor it. Any ENB I would consider "best" you wouldn't like and any ENB you would consider best, I wouldn't like. Which is better? The Corvette or the Silverado? Jump on the 'vette if you want, just don't drive it in the snow, or on a dirt track, or plan on hauling anything.

I listed the three I consider to be the best and gave an honorable mention to Bleak. RealVision and Project are about even in performance. Seasons of Skyrim is a bit less saturated and sometimes a bit more grim/darker. Bleak is the best, IMO, of the less saturated ENBs.

Tetrachromatic, for me, is... weirdish. It's got a lot of lean towards super-unrealistic ENBs like Poupourri. For me, especially for what it does to color and creating inconsistency of feel, it's not a very good ENB at all.

So, I repeat, what are you looking for in an ENB?
OK, you have more of a point there. I dont have a real preference, I tried out the "realistic" RealVision for a while on one of my previous installs so I guess I would like to try out the apparently "cinematic" Tetrachromatic.Not sure how many effects are in RealVision, so I am unsure if I hate them.

Also, I guess my overall question can be summed up more specifically as does Tetrachromatic potentially LOOK as good as RealVision, or is there a noticeable reduction in graphical appearance? Yes, yer right, some folks think things look bad, and other things are annoying, the key word I added is potentially. So, from what I gather, Tetra looks very colorful, cinematic, and has lots of effects, maybe too many for your taste? Thanks for the info so far.
OwedEvil 2016 年 4 月 27 日 上午 4:27 
引用自 Rüdiger J Simpson
that's why there are pictures (or even videos) of ENB presets included, so you can see yourself if you like it or not. not sure what folks here should tell you. tetra is a great fantasy preset, if you like this style, go for it. if you prefer realvision, stay with that. or you could just try it out, it's not science.
I am currently doing other things, not installing ENBs yet. I dont even have the texture/lighting/weather/effects mods to make a ENB look truly proper. Just wondering what folk's impressions of the ENB are. Looks Fantasy like, possibly unrealistic? Maybe effects are overdone? You sound like you have the same opinion.

Vids entirely are dependent on the author's rig, graphics settings, and extra mods. I aint sure, as I dont watch many, but I think even the frame rate and resolution is scaled down. They dont work for me. Thanks for teh info though.
最后由 OwedEvil 编辑于; 2016 年 4 月 27 日 上午 4:28
Rüdiger J Simpson 2016 年 4 月 27 日 上午 4:29 
Also, I guess my overall question can be summed up more specifically as does Tetrachromatic potentially LOOK as good as RealVision, or is there a noticeable reduction in graphical appearance?

some people will say it looks better, some will say it looks worse. we are going in a circle here as it all comes down to personal taste...and to add something more constructive: PERSONALLY i prefer m-enb over tetrachromatic, because it is too colorful at times for me. g&s vaermina is also great in my book.
最后由 Rüdiger J Simpson 编辑于; 2016 年 4 月 27 日 上午 4:31
kdodds 2016 年 4 月 27 日 上午 4:31 
It's more what TC does with colors that makes it unusable for me. As stated...

引用自 Rüdiger J Simpson
that's why there are pictures (or even videos) of ENB presets included, so you can see yourself if you like it or not. not sure what folks here should tell you. tetra is a great fantasy preset, if you like this style, go for it. if you prefer realvision, stay with that. or you could just try it out, it's not science.

The only way for you to know is to try it.
OwedEvil 2016 年 4 月 27 日 上午 4:38 
引用自 Rüdiger J Simpson
Also, I guess my overall question can be summed up more specifically as does Tetrachromatic potentially LOOK as good as RealVision, or is there a noticeable reduction in graphical appearance?

some people will say it looks better, some will say it looks worse. we are going in a circle here as it all comes down to personal taste...and to add something more constructive: PERSONALLY i prefer m-enb over tetrachromatic, because it is too colorful at times for me. g&s vaermina is also great in my book.
Oh, jesus, finaly, someone stated their personal preference and what they personally like/dislike about Tetra to potentially give other's (me) an idea of what it is like. Thanks.



引用自 kdodds
It's more what TC does with colors that makes it unusable for me. As stated...

引用自 Rüdiger J Simpson
that's why there are pictures (or even videos) of ENB presets included, so you can see yourself if you like it or not. not sure what folks here should tell you. tetra is a great fantasy preset, if you like this style, go for it. if you prefer realvision, stay with that. or you could just try it out, it's not science.

The only way for you to know is to try it.
You did mention Lens Flare, pretty basic effect I assume is also in Tetra. Fair to assume you may potentially think it has too many effects. Anyways, to not go around in circles, this is the info I was after. I will try out Tetra, never have tried a fantasy/cinematic ENB before.

Thanks for teh info everyone.
Mr. Mannperson 2016 年 4 月 27 日 上午 6:56 
Heehee! Anyone remember when Morrowind had ENBs and all it really did was tint the game green?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL9jRlTX7_4
最后由 Mr. Mannperson 编辑于; 2016 年 4 月 27 日 上午 7:10
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