Modded Skyrim CTD when fast travelling, loading whiterun, waiting, and going through doors.

[nuttapillar]

When i load skyrim, it seems to work. (unless i load a save in whiterun) but as soon as i wait, or try to fast travel, or go inside, it crashes to the desktop. although sometimes i can go inside or wait, but it will soon crash afterwards. How can I find the cause?
This is the very last line of my Papyrus log: :22PM] USKP 2.0.6 Retroactive Updates Complete
[08/24/2016 - 10:12:22PM] USKP 2.0.7 Retroactive Updates Complete
[08/24/2016 - 10:12:23PM] USKP 2.0.8 Retroactive Updates Complete
[08/24/2016 - 10:12:23PM] [skyBirds]Updated 1302 factions.

it's at this exact moment that it crashes.

This time, I managed to inside, then outside again, fast travel to pelagia farm, then after a few seconds, CTD.

this is the last line:
Line 94
[08/24/2016 - 10:21:03PM] Error: Unable to bind script TimedLightSwitch to (24012746) because their base types do not match
[08/24/2016 - 10:21:03PM] Error: Unable to bind script TimedLightSwitch to (24009BC2) because their base types do not match
[08/24/2016 - 10:21:03PM] Error: Unable to bind script TimedLightSwitch to (24010AD0) because their base types do not match
[08/24/2016 - 10:21:03PM] Error: Unable to bind script TimedLightSwitch to (2400B761) because their base types do not match
[08/24/2016 - 10:21:03PM] Error: Unable to bind script TimedLightSwitch to (2400B819) because their base types do not match
[08/24/2016 - 10:21:03PM] Error: Unable to bind script TimedLightSwitch to (24009BC3) because their base types do not match
[08/24/2016 - 10:21:03PM] Error: Unable to bind script TimedLightSwitch to (24009BC1) because their base types do not match
[08/24/2016 - 10:21:03PM] Error: Unable to bind script TimedLightSwitch to (24009C00) because their base types do not match

Anybody know what is causing this?
Thanks in advance!

[MageThis]

Might try to toggle off save on fast travel etc make your own hard or named saves.

Do you have a mod or something like "automatic lightswitch"? TES5edit should help.

Be nice to have your LOOTED mod list.

[nuttapillar]

I have turned off those settings, so I have ruled out saving as the issue. And no, I'm pretty sure none of my mods relate to light switches. and I have TES5edit,but not sure how to use it. Here is the loot load order:
0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
3 3 Dawnguard.esm
4 4 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
5 5 HearthFires.esm
6 6 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
7 7 Dragonborn.esm
8 8 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
9 9 Falskaar.esm
10 a Wyrmstooth.esp
11 b Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
12 c RE_RealEstate_Core.esp
13 d RSkyrimChildren.esm
14 e SMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp
15 f SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp
16 10 AdventurersAndTravelers.esp
17 11 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
18 12 ELFX - Exteriors.esp
19 13 Extremegrass.esp
20 14 datgrass .esp
21 15 SkyUI.esp
22 16 Opeth_torch.esp
23 17 Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp
24 18 RealisticWaterTwo.esp
25 19 MoreForests.esp
26 1a RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp
27 1b RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp
28 1c RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp
29 1d Beards.esp
30 1e Better Embers.esp
31 1f ELFXEnhancer.esp
32 20 Opeth_Weather.esp
33 21 Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp
34 22 Brawl Bugs CE.esp
35 23 Birds.esp
36 24 whiterunMarket.esp
37 25 SoS - The Wilds.esp
38 26 SoS - Civilization.esp
39 27 SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp
40 28 Inns and Taverns.esp
41 29 SoS - The Dungeons.esp
42 2a skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp
43 2b RE_RealEstate.esp
44 2c Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
45 2d RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
46 2e more idle markers.esp
47 2f UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
48 30 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
49 31 SFO - Dragonborn.esp
50 32 Populated Cities 2.esp
51 33 HorsesGoneWild.esp
52 34 Forests of Whiterun.esp
53 35 Skyrim Better Roads - Solitude.esp
54 36 SMIM-ShackRoofFixes.esp
55 37 SMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.esp
56 38 Farmers Sell Produce - Skyrim.esp
57 39 Signs_of_Skyrim.esp
58 3a Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
59 3b Skyrim Better Roads - Whiterun.esp
60 3c GrassOnSteroids_NaturalEdition_SFO.esp
61 3d DenserGrass.esp
62 3e Grass Field.esp
63 3f Lucerne Weather.esp
64 40 KK_Lola_companion_wolfdog.esp
65 41 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
66 42 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
67 43 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
68 44 dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
69 45 Headtracking.esp
70 46 iHUD.esp
71 47 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes_HighSpawn.esp
72 48 LIAT - Sounds.esp
73 49 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp
74 4a ChickenCompanion.esp
75 4b WhiterunInEnhanced.esp
76 4c TAVERiften.esp
77 4d Skyrim Better Roads - Ivarstead.esp
78 4e More Riverwood Trees.esp
79 4f RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp
80 50 More Riverwood Trees Water.esp
81 51 City Trees & Plants.esp
82 52 TAVEWindhelm.esp
83 53 TAVESolitude.esp
84 54 Skyrim Better Bridges - Whiterun.esp
85 55 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
86 56 Buskers of Skyrim.esp
87 57 ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp
88 58 HarvestingAnimation.esp
89 59 HarvestOverhaul.esp
90 5a HarvestOverhaul_skyBirds_v0.931_Patch.esp
91 5b HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp
92 5c SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp
93 5d Natural Lighting and Atmospherics.esp
94 5e RSChildren - Complete.esp
95 5f SSAssist.esp
96 60 LIAT - NPCs.esp
97 61 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

[Ilja]

Last lines in Papyrus do not really tell us a thing. It records everything that happens in your game, but not every error is harmful or relevant. Thing is that Papyrus does not usually record the last script that ran before crashing. It is more of a modding myth than a fact that crashes could be determined from that.

Thus notes about SkyBirds and Light Switches may be entirely irrelevant and by no means related to your crashes.

If you post Papyrus log, then post a full log to pastebin or other service. We can then look for relevant problems that may cause problems. However, even experienced modders and mod authors may have a very hard time to figure out what the heck is going on from Papyrus logs. It is mostly used by mod authors to watch over if their own scripts were running, halted, spamming or skipped.

I can see few outdated mods (UFO and old versions of Unofficial Patches), but nothing else jumps out.

Try this, in case that this is just a memory management issue. I can see several grass mods in your game and they may be taxing your memory on load.

SKSE, memory and skse.ini
http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/540740500921363665/

If that did not help, then move to USLEEP, replace UFO with some up to date follower mod and try this with a new game.

Extensible Follower Framework by Expired
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/12933/?

Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch by Unofficial Patch Project Team
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/71214/?

You can use ASLAL to skip the intro and test your mods. If you need to start a new game entirely and wish to go through Helgen, then ASLAL has an option to do that.

Alternate Start - Live Another Life by Arthmoor
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/9557/?

[nuttapillar]

Thanks mate, I was looking for a way to skip the intro, and the only way i found was by downloading a save game after that point. But anyway thanks a lot for the help, and next time i'm online i'll give these suggestions a shot! I should mention that my grass is very thick (15). Also, I had a suspicion that I could be hitting the Windows 10 direct x 9 memory limit of 4gb. But I tested with a program, which told me skyrim was only using about 3.5gbs. I am considering installing windows 7 as a duel boot to see if it runs better there. btw, the crashes started quite suddenly. It was going perfectly fine, then BAM, the crashing started. I even tried removing recent mods, to no avail.

[Hitokiri-X]

19 13 Extremegrass.esp
20 14 datgrass .esp
60 3c GrassOnSteroids_NaturalEdition_SFO.esp
61 3d DenserGrass.esp
62 3e Grass Field.esp
- I don't use any grass mods, but don't they all do the same thing?

34 22 Brawl Bugs CE.esp
- There is a new version that actually works and fixes the brawl bug

Modern Brawl Bug Fix
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/77465/?

89 59 HarvestOverhaul.esp
91 5b HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp
- Better Harvesting does the same thing with 0 scripts and is compatible with USLEEP and Wiseman's Flora Fixes

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/75511/?

Nothing else really stands out. Load up your entire modlist in TE5Edit and go through every single mod to check for record conflicts.

[nuttapillar]

Grass mods confuse me and they almost never end with the result i want, so i usually just end up installing loads in random orders until it looks right, haha. Once it looks good i jusy leave it alone or i will mess it up!

[MageThis]

Originally posted by nuttapillar:

Grass mods confuse me and they almost never end with the result i want, so i usually just end up installing loads in random orders until it looks right, haha. Once it looks good i jusy leave it alone or i will mess it up!

Ah, no, not a really good long term plan. THAT usually bites me in the butt sooner or later.

[nuttapillar]

i do use skse btw, so ill try your other suggestions when i get back on my computer in a day or 2.

[Ilja]

Originally posted by nuttapillar:

i do use skse btw, so ill try your other suggestions when i get back on my computer in a day or 2.

So, you are already using the memory fix from it?

[nuttapillar]

Originally posted by Ilja:

Originally posted by nuttapillar:

i do use skse btw, so ill try your other suggestions when i get back on my computer in a day or 2.

So, you are already using the memory fix from it?

I reckon. Isn't it included by default?

[nuttapillar]

And Hitokiri, I'm pretty sure that the brawl bug fix i have is a requirement of another mod, which is why I have it.

[smr1957]

Memory fix for SKSE is not included - you must create it -
SKSE memory fix. Should be in SKSE folder (Skyrim/Data/SKSE):
skse.ini (text file)

[General]
EnableDiagnostics=1
ClearInvalidRegistrations=1
[Display]
iTintTextureResolution=2048
[Memory]
defaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768
scrapHeapSizeMB=256


Just create a text file using notepad and paste in the above info, save as skse.ini (no .txt, or will not load), and paste text file into the SKSE folder.

[Ilja]

Originally posted by nuttapillar:

Originally posted by Ilja:

So, you are already using the memory fix from it?

I reckon. Isn't it included by default?

Originally posted by smr1957:

Memory fix for SKSE is not included - you must create it -
SKSE memory fix. Should be in SKSE folder (Skyrim/Data/SKSE):
skse.ini (text file)

[General]
EnableDiagnostics=1
ClearInvalidRegistrations=1
[Display]
iTintTextureResolution=2048
[Memory]
defaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768
scrapHeapSizeMB=256


Just create a text file using notepad and paste in the above info, save as skse.ini (no .txt, or will not load), and paste text file into the SKSE folder.

As smr1957 explained. The post I linked above to reply #3 was made to explain what this memory tweak is, how it is activated and what the values you see here actually do.

[ScareBear]

Originally posted by nuttapillar:

Thanks mate, I was looking for a way to skip the intro, and the only way i found was by downloading a save game after that point. But anyway thanks a lot for the help, and next time i'm online i'll give these suggestions a shot! I should mention that my grass is very thick (15). Also, I had a suspicion that I could be hitting the Windows 10 direct x 9 memory limit of 4gb. But I tested with a program, which told me skyrim was only using about 3.5gbs. I am considering installing windows 7 as a duel boot to see if it runs better there. btw, the crashes started quite suddenly. It was going perfectly fine, then BAM, the crashing started. I even tried removing recent mods, to no avail.

Skyrim will crash when it hits 3.1g system ram every time. I tested this last time I did a clean install (loaded with some mods to push ram) to see if it was true or not. It would most often crash because of a ram spike while turning (loading polygons).

You will also need an enb or enboost. It forces vram first keeping your system ram low and out of range.

Skyrim performance monitor-
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/6491/?
For MO users you need to link it to MO's exe. It will handle the rest.

Enboost-
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/73618/?

With your specs you are probably better off with a graphical enb though.
If you are still crashing it isn't memory related. Random ctds usually are though.

[ScareBear]

To put it into perspective. My current load order is repeatedly kicking my card (750ti) in the nuts.

After a romp around solitude and the plains around whiterun avg. system ram use = 750mb

All this abuse and crashes are very rare. My poor gpu :(