skyrim ctd upon entering windhelm stables cell

[Dr. Strangelove]

so i get a ctd when i cross the bridge to the windhelm stables and when i go into winhelm from palace of kings i get one too, anybody who knows what's wrong?

[Liv]

Are you running any mods?

[Dr. Strangelove]

Originally posted by RoboticPlayer:

Are you running any mods?

yes some, is the problem texture mods? i just need a bit more of a direction to look into it, i've cleaned my master files and stuff

[Liv]

It's possible that any of your mods could be causing it. Can you show us your load order? Run LOOT, sort, click the three dots in the upper right corner, copy load order, paste it here.

[cxDarkbladecx]

jokes take over the internet how feal time on play some game sytems all ready do it.

[Liv]

Originally posted by cxDarkbladecx:

jokes take over the internet how feal time on play some game sytems all ready do it.

How is this related to the post at all?

[Ilja]

*Subscribed to this thread.

[Dr. Strangelove]

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 JSwords.esm
7 7 ApachiiHair.esm
8 8 Ket_ARMONIZER_v2.esm
9 9 HighResTexturePack01.esp
10 a HighResTexturePack02.esp
11 b HighResTexturePack03.esp
12 c lozenge s130 longsword.esp
13 d rumplestiltskindagger.esp
14 e vagabondswordsman.esp
15 f dragonboneebonsteel.esp
16 10 immersive roads.esp
17 11 SkyRe_Main.esp
18 12 SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp
19 13 BetterQuestObjectives.esp
20 14 Book Covers Skyrim.esp
21 15 RealisticWaterTwo.esp
22 16 SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Complete.esp
23 17 DarkbroSanctuary.esp
24 18 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
25 19 Thieves Guild Redone.esp
26 1a SoS - The Wilds.esp
27 1b SoS - Civilization.esp
28 1c black mage armor.esp
29 1d bettercitiesjarlshouses.esp
30 1e Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
31 1f Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
32 20 SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp
33 21 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
34 22 LocalizedGuildJobs.esp
35 23 TownsAndCitiesEnhanced.esp
36 24 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
37 25 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
38 26 Immersive Weapons.esp
39 27 Cloaks.esp
40 28 UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
41 29 SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp
42 2a Ket_ARMONIZER_LListsNPC.esp
43 2b fallentreebridges.esp
44 2c SMIM-Merged-All.esp
45 2d RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
46 2e Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
47 2f Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp
48 30 SkyRe_StandingStones.esp
49 31 SkyRe_Races.esp
50 32 WhiterunInEnhanced.esp
51 33 SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp
52 34 RiverwoodEnhancedPlugin.esp
53 35 minemapmarkers.esp
54 36 TAVERiften.esp
55 37 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
56 38 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp
57 39 SkyRe_Combat.esp
58 3a My Home Is Your Home.esp
59 3b Apocalypse - The Spell Package (Workshop).esp
60 3c Argentum Venator Longswords.esp
61 3d better embers.esp
62 3e ktxcompleteskyforge.esp
63 3f follower trap safety.esp
64 40 nightingale_armor_tweak.esp
65 41 realistic piercing arrows.esp
getdrunk.esp
66 42 arcania 1 shields and swords and perks.esp
67 43 more perks and levels.esp
68 44 faster vanilla horses.esp
69 45 mintylightningmod.esp
70 46 SkyUI.esp
71 47 CinematicFireFX.esp
72 48 Unlimited Training.esp
73 49 SFO - Dragonborn.esp
74 4a Radiant and Unique Potions and Poisons v2.0 non glow.esp
75 4b Unique BOOZE Bottles.esp
76 4c TGenhanced.esp
77 4d Vivid Landscapes.esp
78 4e dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
79 4f dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
80 50 dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
81 51 TAVESolitude.esp
82 52 Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp
83 53 BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp
84 54 BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp
85 55 BetterQuestObjectives-UFOPatch.esp
86 56 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
87 57 Beards.esp
88 58 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
89 59 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
90 5a dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
91 5b The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
92 5c Convenient Horses.esp
93 5d DB Armor Mail.esp
94 5e AncientDBarmorTSedition.esp
95 5f Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
96 60 SkyRe_SIC Crossbowfix.esp
97 61 BetterQuestObjectives-SkyRePatch.esp
98 62 SkyRe_Survivalism.esp
99 63 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
100 64 BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp
101 65 ReProccer.esp

[Liv]

Originally posted by Dr. Strangelove:

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 JSwords.esm
7 7 ApachiiHair.esm
8 8 Ket_ARMONIZER_v2.esm
9 9 HighResTexturePack01.esp
10 a HighResTexturePack02.esp
11 b HighResTexturePack03.esp
12 c lozenge s130 longsword.esp
13 d rumplestiltskindagger.esp
14 e vagabondswordsman.esp
15 f dragonboneebonsteel.esp
16 10 immersive roads.esp
17 11 SkyRe_Main.esp
18 12 SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp
19 13 BetterQuestObjectives.esp
20 14 Book Covers Skyrim.esp
21 15 RealisticWaterTwo.esp
22 16 SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Complete.esp
23 17 DarkbroSanctuary.esp
24 18 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
25 19 Thieves Guild Redone.esp
26 1a SoS - The Wilds.esp
27 1b SoS - Civilization.esp
28 1c black mage armor.esp
29 1d bettercitiesjarlshouses.esp
30 1e Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
31 1f Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
32 20 SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp
33 21 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
34 22 LocalizedGuildJobs.esp
35 23 TownsAndCitiesEnhanced.esp
36 24 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
37 25 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
38 26 Immersive Weapons.esp
39 27 Cloaks.esp
40 28 UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
41 29 SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp
42 2a Ket_ARMONIZER_LListsNPC.esp
43 2b fallentreebridges.esp
44 2c SMIM-Merged-All.esp
45 2d RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
46 2e Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
47 2f Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp
48 30 SkyRe_StandingStones.esp
49 31 SkyRe_Races.esp
50 32 WhiterunInEnhanced.esp
51 33 SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp
52 34 RiverwoodEnhancedPlugin.esp
53 35 minemapmarkers.esp
54 36 TAVERiften.esp
55 37 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
56 38 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp
57 39 SkyRe_Combat.esp
58 3a My Home Is Your Home.esp
59 3b Apocalypse - The Spell Package (Workshop).esp
60 3c Argentum Venator Longswords.esp
61 3d better embers.esp
62 3e ktxcompleteskyforge.esp
63 3f follower trap safety.esp
64 40 nightingale_armor_tweak.esp
65 41 realistic piercing arrows.esp
getdrunk.esp
66 42 arcania 1 shields and swords and perks.esp
67 43 more perks and levels.esp
68 44 faster vanilla horses.esp
69 45 mintylightningmod.esp
70 46 SkyUI.esp
71 47 CinematicFireFX.esp
72 48 Unlimited Training.esp
73 49 SFO - Dragonborn.esp
74 4a Radiant and Unique Potions and Poisons v2.0 non glow.esp
75 4b Unique BOOZE Bottles.esp
76 4c TGenhanced.esp
77 4d Vivid Landscapes.esp
78 4e dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
79 4f dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
80 50 dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
81 51 TAVESolitude.esp
82 52 Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp
83 53 BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp
84 54 BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp
85 55 BetterQuestObjectives-UFOPatch.esp
86 56 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
87 57 Beards.esp
88 58 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
89 59 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
90 5a dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
91 5b The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
92 5c Convenient Horses.esp
93 5d DB Armor Mail.esp
94 5e AncientDBarmorTSedition.esp
95 5f Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
96 60 SkyRe_SIC Crossbowfix.esp
97 61 BetterQuestObjectives-SkyRePatch.esp
98 62 SkyRe_Survivalism.esp
99 63 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
100 64 BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp
101 65 ReProccer.esp

Right away I see that you are using The Dance of Death. It is outdated, replace it with VioLens. Are you actually using the High Res pack or is it just in your load order? If you are using it, I would recommend not doing so, as primarily it is a huge memory hog.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Originally posted by RoboticPlayer:

Originally posted by Dr. Strangelove:

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 JSwords.esm
7 7 ApachiiHair.esm
8 8 Ket_ARMONIZER_v2.esm
9 9 HighResTexturePack01.esp
10 a HighResTexturePack02.esp
11 b HighResTexturePack03.esp
12 c lozenge s130 longsword.esp
13 d rumplestiltskindagger.esp
14 e vagabondswordsman.esp
15 f dragonboneebonsteel.esp
16 10 immersive roads.esp
17 11 SkyRe_Main.esp
18 12 SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp
19 13 BetterQuestObjectives.esp
20 14 Book Covers Skyrim.esp
21 15 RealisticWaterTwo.esp
22 16 SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Complete.esp
23 17 DarkbroSanctuary.esp
24 18 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
25 19 Thieves Guild Redone.esp
26 1a SoS - The Wilds.esp
27 1b SoS - Civilization.esp
28 1c black mage armor.esp
29 1d bettercitiesjarlshouses.esp
30 1e Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
31 1f Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
32 20 SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp
33 21 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
34 22 LocalizedGuildJobs.esp
35 23 TownsAndCitiesEnhanced.esp
36 24 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
37 25 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
38 26 Immersive Weapons.esp
39 27 Cloaks.esp
40 28 UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
41 29 SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp
42 2a Ket_ARMONIZER_LListsNPC.esp
43 2b fallentreebridges.esp
44 2c SMIM-Merged-All.esp
45 2d RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
46 2e Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
47 2f Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp
48 30 SkyRe_StandingStones.esp
49 31 SkyRe_Races.esp
50 32 WhiterunInEnhanced.esp
51 33 SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp
52 34 RiverwoodEnhancedPlugin.esp
53 35 minemapmarkers.esp
54 36 TAVERiften.esp
55 37 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
56 38 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp
57 39 SkyRe_Combat.esp
58 3a My Home Is Your Home.esp
59 3b Apocalypse - The Spell Package (Workshop).esp
60 3c Argentum Venator Longswords.esp
61 3d better embers.esp
62 3e ktxcompleteskyforge.esp
63 3f follower trap safety.esp
64 40 nightingale_armor_tweak.esp
65 41 realistic piercing arrows.esp
getdrunk.esp
66 42 arcania 1 shields and swords and perks.esp
67 43 more perks and levels.esp
68 44 faster vanilla horses.esp
69 45 mintylightningmod.esp
70 46 SkyUI.esp
71 47 CinematicFireFX.esp
72 48 Unlimited Training.esp
73 49 SFO - Dragonborn.esp
74 4a Radiant and Unique Potions and Poisons v2.0 non glow.esp
75 4b Unique BOOZE Bottles.esp
76 4c TGenhanced.esp
77 4d Vivid Landscapes.esp
78 4e dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
79 4f dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
80 50 dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
81 51 TAVESolitude.esp
82 52 Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp
83 53 BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp
84 54 BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp
85 55 BetterQuestObjectives-UFOPatch.esp
86 56 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
87 57 Beards.esp
88 58 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
89 59 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
90 5a dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
91 5b The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
92 5c Convenient Horses.esp
93 5d DB Armor Mail.esp
94 5e AncientDBarmorTSedition.esp
95 5f Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
96 60 SkyRe_SIC Crossbowfix.esp
97 61 BetterQuestObjectives-SkyRePatch.esp
98 62 SkyRe_Survivalism.esp
99 63 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
100 64 BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp
101 65 ReProccer.esp

Right away I see that you are using The Dance of Death. It is outdated, replace it with VioLens. Are you actually using the High Res pack or is it just in your load order? If you are using it, I would recommend not doing so, as primarily it is a huge memory hog.

thanks, i'll try that and get back to you

[Ilja]

Another matter.

UFO is badly out of date. It has been causing all sorts of strange problems. I do not believe it is the source of this problem, but it is something that you should change. It will cause problems in your game.

Extensible Follower Framework by Expired
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/12933/?

If you have not already activated SKSE memory tweak by creating configuration file, then do that now. This may be a memory spike issue that will get fixed by the tweak.

SKSE, memory and skse.ini
http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/540740500921363665/

[Liv]

Originally posted by Ilja:

Another matter.

UFO is badly out of date. It has been causing all sorts of strange problems. I do not believe it is the source of this problem, but it is something that you should change. It will cause problems in your game.

Extensible Follower Framework by Expired
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/12933/?

If you have not already activated SKSE memory tweak by creating configuration file, then do that now. This may be a memory spike issue that will get fixed by the tweak.

SKSE, memory and skse.ini
http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/540740500921363665/

Can AFT not be used, or do you just prefer EFF?

[Ilja]

AFT is also buggy. EFF is most compatible right now and I always try to recommend such version. Which is actually quite fun, because few years back I recommended AFT over EFF, when latter was riddled with problems. Tables have turned. :)

If you prefer AFT system, then I recommend using the upgraded version. It is not as compatible than EFF, but it is not as buggy than AFT was and acts as a valid replacement for EFF.

Immersive Amazing Follower Tweaks by chinagreenelvis
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/71689/?

[Hitokiri-X]

68 44 faster vanilla horses.esp
92 5c Convenient Horses.esp

- You can tweak horse speeds in CH mcm, don't need both.

67 43 more perks and levels.esp

- What is this? If it modifies perks, it is incompatible with Skyre. Look into Community Uncapper to achieve the same thing.

If you're having crashes related to cities, maybe it's one of your city mods causing the issue?

[Ilja]

Originally posted by Hitokiri-X:

68 44 faster vanilla horses.esp
92 5c Convenient Horses.esp

Good call. I missed that entirely.

I noticed that you have made more than few calls in this forum lately. We need more active peoples. Your help is appreciated.

[Hitokiri-X]

Originally posted by Ilja:

Originally posted by Hitokiri-X:

68 44 faster vanilla horses.esp
92 5c Convenient Horses.esp

Good call. I missed that entirely.

I noticed that you have made more than few calls in this forum lately. We need more active peoples. Your help is appreciated.

I'm active when I can be :D. Last year of college starts up next week so I won't have as much free time anymore.