Whiterun freeze.

[Kemmler]

When i go to whiterun (only in certain times of the day) the game freezes. usually it happens when i enter the gate then you can see all the npc's walking down the stairs together. Almost like it is just too much for the game to handle. I am not sure if it happens in other cities because the only other cities ive been to are dawnstar and morthal so not gone through any gates.

As i said though it only happens at certain times during the day, ive done some googling and a lot of people have had this issue, i am just hoping that someone has any actual fix by now after the game has been out for so long. And yeah i'm running mods but maybe only 30 or 40. I have 16 gig of ram and 8 gig gpu.

[Master Talon]

can we see your mod load order? It's possible it's some mods causing the problem

[Kemmler]

Sure thing. I was thinking it might be that with 3DNPC it has too many people in Whiterun but there's really not that many more people there than vanilla. and after doing some googling i found that a lot of people experienced CTD's or freezes in or around Whiterun or when fast travelling to Whiterun. When i travel there i load in, i can walk around or talk to Lydia for maybe a minute and people are walking around and then it freezes.

When it freezes i can't alt-tab i have to ctrl-alt-delete and restart the system, i'd pretty much prefer a CTD.

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 RSkyrimChildren.esm
7 7 Havok Breast Physic.esm
8 8 HighResTexturePack01.esp
9 9 HighResTexturePack02.esp
10 a HighResTexturePack03.esp
11 b EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
12 c ELFX - Exteriors.esp
13 d 3DNPC.esp
14 e 3DNPC Visual Overhaul.esp
15 f ELFX - Weathers.esp
16 10 Vivid Landscapes.esp
17 11 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp
18 12 Havok Breast Physic.esp
19 13 Cloaks.esp
20 14 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
21 15 018Auri.esp
22 16 AZ_AuriSotGReplacer.esp
23 17 PAN_Voira.esp
24 18 RSChildren.esp
25 19 RSChildren Patch - USLEEP.esp
26 1a PAN_WarriorWomen.esp
27 1b PAN_NPCs.esp
28 1c PAN_Shieldsisters.esp
29 1d PAN_NPCs_Males2.esp
30 1e Marsha - Follower.esp
31 1f Lazman_Outfits.esp
32 20 Field Mage Outfit.esp
33 21 ColovianLeatherArmor.esp
34 22 SleekSteel_StandAlone.esp
35 23 Bijin NPCs.esp
36 24 AZ_LydiaReplacer.esp
37 25 Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp
38 26 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp
39 27 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp
40 28 KaliliesNPCs.esp
41 29 PAN_NPCs_Males.esp
42 2a SofiaFollower.esp
43 2b PAN_FollowerPack1.esp
44 2c moresmeltables.esp
45 2d item recycling.esp
46 2e Hentai's Armor Collection.esp
47 2f Lady of Death.esp
48 30 KS Hairdo's.esp
49 31 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
50 32 medusa armor.esp
51 33 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
52 34 Havok Breast Physic Dragonborn.esp
53 35 Havok Breast Physic Dawnguard.esp
54 36 FNIS.esp
55 37 XPMSE.esp
56 38 SkyUI.esp
57 39 RaceMenu.esp
58 3a RaceMenuPlugin.esp
59 3b LeftHandRings.esp
60 3c highervisibilityore.esp
61 3d barenziahquestmarkers.esp
62 3e auto unequip arrows.esp
63 3f Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
64 40 ELFXEnhancer.esp
65 41 Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp

[smr1957]

From looking at your load order, though you do not have that many mods, you do have a fair number that add NPCs and/or enhance existing ones. Due to the large number of NPCs in Whiterun, anything extra may result in problems with, as you thought, overtaxing the game. One thing you can try is the SKSE memory fix:

SKSE, memory and skse.ini by Ilja - http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/540740500921363665/

Also, using ENBoost may also help:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=815662314

These should be the first things you should try.

[Kemmler]

Originally posted by smr1957:

From looking at your load order, though you do not have that many mods, you do have a fair number that add NPCs and/or enhance existing ones. Due to the large number of NPCs in Whiterun, anything extra may result in problems with, as you thought, overtaxing the game. One thing you can try is the SKSE memory fix:

SKSE, memory and skse.ini by Ilja - http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/540740500921363665/

Also, using ENBoost may also help:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=815662314

These should be the first things you should try.

Thanks for the reply, i am already running ENBoost. I am considering just by trial and error avoiding entering the city at certain hours of the day. I really dont want to though.

[CoolingGibbon]

Install this:

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/106929

Then let the game crash where it's supposed to. Open the Skyrim folder where TESV.exe is located and you should see a text file called crash_xxxx where xxxx is the date and time. Please paste the contents of that file here.

[Kemmler]

Originally posted by CoolingGibbon:

Install this:

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/106929

Then let the game crash where it's supposed to. Open the Skyrim folder where TESV.exe is located and you should see a text file called crash_xxxx where xxxx is the date and time. Please paste the contents of that file here.

I definitely will if it happens again but i think i fixed it (or i read a way to fix it) i should have tested things out individually. So first thing i did was to change the ReservedMemorySizeMB to 1024. Then i pressed F4 when i loaded into whiterun as i read on ENB boost somewhere that it helps. Problem solved......for now as i got like 4 hours gaming out of it without a problem, tomorrow i will try again without pressing F4 and if it crashes then i will post results here.

And thanks for that btw because i followed steps to turn on papyrus and try to find a crash log or some sort of log and nothing was generated. will dl now.

[smr1957]

Yes, F4 clears the cache and can help with memory problems. And the larger ReservedMemorySize of 1024 is better for more memory intensive load orders. Congrats on getting things fixed! Hope it's smooth sailing from now on - enjoy!

[Kemmler]

Originally posted by smr1957:

Yes, F4 clears the cache and can help with memory problems. And the larger ReservedMemorySize of 1024 is better for more memory intensive load orders. Congrats on getting things fixed! Hope it's smooth sailing from now on - enjoy!

Thanks to you and CoolingGibbon for responding to my request. I always liked the Skyrim community on Steam, seems to draw a much nicer crowd.