why delisted

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[wasabi™]

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Originally posted by wasabi:

Ah ok that makes sense, it does indeed look like that's the case. It's very strange that we still haven't gotten word from the devs on what's going on,

BTW 3rd party scalpers were so quick in quadrupling their selling price for the game the instant it was delisted. Price will only go up sadly.

Where are people seeing this? Because as I stated in another thread, the only place that you could buy this game for PC was EGS or Steam.

I don't know how EGS gifting works, but Steam, you can't just store it in your inventory like you could in the past. It's also not like you could get Steam keys for this game. either. I mean, I guess you could, because developers can request keys from Valve, but then you'd have to get the keys straight from the developer or the publisher and I don't see that as a possibility.

I said it because I saw it being sold on GAM*VO after the removal from Steam, just look at the price history at the bottom of the page on gg.deals you can clearly see it was being sold on GAM*VO after the removal occurred. They are obviously sold out now.

https://gg.deals/game/vigil-the-longest-night/

If you go to wayback machine you can also see that there were numerous 3rd party sellers.

https://web.archive.org/web/20221004152159/https://gg.deals/game/vigil-the-longest-night/

Is there any deal does not give you information on all 3rd party resellers so using that as be all and end for all reference is not accurate.

[MrWoodenSheep]

FYI, I actually managed to buy a "key" from one of those key resellers before the prices got raised like crazy. In the end, I didn't actually get one. They said they had technical issues and issued me a refund immediately.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Originally posted by wasabi:

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Where are people seeing this? Because as I stated in another thread, the only place that you could buy this game for PC was EGS or Steam.

I don't know how EGS gifting works, but Steam, you can't just store it in your inventory like you could in the past. It's also not like you could get Steam keys for this game. either. I mean, I guess you could, because developers can request keys from Valve, but then you'd have to get the keys straight from the developer or the publisher and I don't see that as a possibility.

I said it because I saw it being sold on GAM*VO after the removal from Steam, just look at the price history at the bottom of the page on gg.deals you can clearly see it was being sold on GAM*VO after the removal occurred. They are obviously sold out now.

https://gg.deals/game/vigil-the-longest-night/

If you go to wayback machine you can also see that there were numerous 3rd party sellers.

https://web.archive.org/web/20221004152159/https://gg.deals/game/vigil-the-longest-night/

Is there any deal does not give you information on all 3rd party resellers so using that as be all and end for all reference is not accurate.

Using gray resellers isn't an assurance of anything. Them saying that they have keys etc. I even got a duplicate key from Humble before and that's Humble.

[Vigneshs87]

Still no update.

[Professor Q]

Welp, Neon Doctrine is now on my "Don't buy" list, until they at least address why they'd do this.

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Originally posted by Professor Q:

Welp, Neon Doctrine is now on my "Don't buy" list, until they at least address why they'd do this.

We don't know if it was Neon Doctrine's initiative. Devs aren't saying anything either.

[Professor Q]

Right, but the publisher owns the distribution rights, so they would be the ones to pull it, even if it was at the behest of the developer.

And it's their position to communicate the reason for it.

If they don't give us a reason then I can only assume they might arbitrarily drop support for any of their products with no explanation at any time.

Which makes them a publisher I'm not interested in supporting.

[( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡ °)]

From Neon Doctrine's (the publisher) discord:
"Yeah it's not something that we are commenting on at this time but hopefully will be able to clear things up soon. People who previously bought the game on any platform should still have full access."
https://i.imgur.com/cfOvCaT.png

Which to me sounds like there really is some kind of trouble behind the scenes. But i'm gonna respect ND's wishes and stop speculating.

(I just hope Vigil will be re-listed again)

[Professor Q]

Casual "yeah" plus "not something we are commenting on at this time" sounds like a scandal they need their lawyers to dress the pig for to me.

[2000K]

From Official Facebook:

Greetings,
We are Glass Heart Studio from Taiwan. Last month, our game "Vigil: The Longest Night" was unexpectedly removed from multiple platforms. We would like to provide an update on the situation:
1. This decision was not made on our part. The authority to publish on platforms is currently held by the former publisher, Neon Doctrine. As early as 2021, when we released an update for "ASOMROF," Neon Doctrine expressed concerns that the term "ASOMROF" was a reversal of "FORMOSA" and could potentially cross political red lines, particularly, China’s. They reported this to Steam, claiming that it contained elements of Taiwanese history which might violate China’s regulations, leading to the removal of the game from Steam's China region.
2. Vigil was a completely self-funded and original creation, with full control of the related content. During our crowdfunding campaign back in 2018, we unveiled our plan to create a "FORMOSA"-derived DLC named "ASOMROF, quite a while before reaching any contract or agreements with Neon Doctrine. This DLC was designed to encompass Taiwanese cultural elements, set against the backdrop of Fort Zeelandia, and offering a unique gaming experience. Our explanation of "ASOMROF" was shared multiple times in news articles and on social media, and Neon Doctrine acknowledged that their team member in Taiwan was aware of it.
3. Subsequently, Neon Doctrine escalated their actions without prior notice, withholding significant revenue, and removing our backend update access. These actions were even further elevated to unauthorized sales of game keys and merchandise on external platforms, including the China Phoenix platform, even when the game itself was removed from Steam China's region. When reported to the authorities and legal action was undertaken, Neon Doctrine’s response was to simply remove these products from the platforms without providing any reasonable explanations or compensations.
We initiated a lawsuit on October 14, 2021; legal victories on our part subsequently led to contract terminations and injunctions with Neon Doctrine, with separate courts overseeing the return of the game, yet ongoing appeals and investigations into unauthorized sales have further complicated the situation. We remain in the dark regarding the recent abrupt removal of the game from all platforms, and are yet to receive any explanation from Neon Doctrine.
Despite the uncertainty of the legal proceedings and their outcomes, we are resolute in exploring all avenues of recourse. Our struggle transcends borders, championing justice and creative freedom globally. While we acknowledge the potential legal ramifications of this statement, we stand by our convictions that gaming integrity and creativity must transcend political disparities and petty nationalism. We kindly request your assistance in spreading this message and would like to express our deepest gratitude for your support and understanding. We hope that one day we can bring "Vigil: The Longest Night" back to you.

[UN0W3N]

So the game is never coming back. Just like 2019's Devotion...

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Man, this sucks. I was hoping it was just some minor hiccup behind the scenes, but a 2 years old lawsuit...

[vitasha]

just rename game or dlc and bring it back

[wasabi™]

Wow that really sucks to read that, didn't realise how bad things were behind the scenes.

They sound like a really dedicated team of devs that got royally screwed over, really hope they find a way to fight back and have their game relisted for sale.

All we can do for now is just help spread the word.

[Professor Q]

Welp, that sounds about right.

I will remember the publisher "Neon Doctrine" now.