The runbacks to the ocerina bosses are uneccessary

[Pogo]

Just let us use the save stones, why do i have to keep doing the same platforming section over and over to get the fun part of the game that i want to try

[Rage]

Me last night on the run to Upotancos over and over. Let alone the god awful one to the ice woman. Personally, I didn't know about the teleport stones inside the dimensions till after I beat all that =(

[Pogo]

Originally posted by Rage:

Me last night on the run to Upotancos over and over. Let alone the god awful one to the ice woman. Personally, I didn't know about the teleport stones inside the dimensions till after I beat all that =(

oh that makes it 10x worse lol. I beat ice lady first try at least. The frost defense ring makes it a cakewalk. Upotancos though, had to learn his moves pretty well, fun boss tho, favorite so far

[Rage]

Originally posted by Indielorian:

Originally posted by Rage:

Me last night on the run to Upotancos over and over. Let alone the god awful one to the ice woman. Personally, I didn't know about the teleport stones inside the dimensions till after I beat all that =(

oh that makes it 10x worse lol. I beat ice lady first try at least. The frost defense ring makes it a cakewalk. Upotancos though, had to learn his moves pretty well, fun boss tho, favorite so far

Have you fought scholar yet? I think him and the doc are my two favorites. Delphi is cool, but I'm not a fan of the stunlock she does.

[Pogo]

Originally posted by Rage:

Originally posted by Indielorian:

oh that makes it 10x worse lol. I beat ice lady first try at least. The frost defense ring makes it a cakewalk. Upotancos though, had to learn his moves pretty well, fun boss tho, favorite so far

Have you fought scholar yet? I think him and the doc are my two favorites. Delphi is cool, but I'm not a fan of the stunlock she does.

ive reached the checkpoint near him but I didnt know if i wanted to use the cubes up there yet, trying to get the rest of the items and stuff.

[Rage]

Originally posted by Indielorian:

Originally posted by Rage:

Have you fought scholar yet? I think him and the doc are my two favorites. Delphi is cool, but I'm not a fan of the stunlock she does.

ive reached the checkpoint near him but I didnt know if i wanted to use the cubes up there yet, trying to get the rest of the items and stuff.

Yah def get the metallic ocarina and fight Delphi too. At least her dimension is just the boss room.

[Skulls]

Totally agree. I had to stop playing because it got too tedious. Hope they end up listening.

[Rage]

Originally posted by Skulls:

Totally agree. I had to stop playing because it got too tedious. Hope they end up listening.

I mean it was annoying af, but Dark Souls and BB conditioned me for long runs to the boss room. Dark Souls 1 the run to Seethe was like 5 whole minutes. I just think not allowing fledgling souls in there is dumb.

[Skulls]

Originally posted by Rage:

Originally posted by Skulls:

Totally agree. I had to stop playing because it got too tedious. Hope they end up listening.

I mean it was annoying af, but Dark Souls and BB conditioned me for long runs to the boss room. Dark Souls 1 the run to Seethe was like 5 whole minutes. I just think not allowing fledgling souls in there is dumb.

I beat those games too. Although I had rage moments, it never stopped being fun for me. I think because this is just platforming, it's not fun. I'd be fine with just allowing the fledgling souls to work too.

[quintonhoffert]

Having now done both realms in NG+, I think I mind the Frozen Realm less than the Shadow Disaster even though I hated it more on my first time. Ultimately it's not that hard to progress at a good pace up the different levels so long as you have a good ranged attack. Most of the enemies aren't that challenging and Princess Downaly is an easy boss, especially if you have ice resistance. Shadow Disaster is, as its name suggests, just a disaster. I just really don't like that level. Which is a shame because I really do like Uptancos.

[memnoch87]

You do have the ability to create your own save games using the Fledgling Blood Soul.

So if you know a boss is right around the corner, you can have an autosave mere seconds from it.

EDIT: I am a massive lying liar! You cannot do it!

[Avlaen]

Originally posted by memnoch87:

You do have the ability to create your own save games using the Fledgling Blood Soul.

So if you know a boss is right around the corner, you can have an autosave mere seconds from it.

The fledgling souls dont work in the ocarina dimensions

[quintonhoffert]

What Canoness Avlaen said. Someone in another thread theorized that the Ocarina Realms all count as giant boss arenas. Is that a potential reason for Fledgling Blood Souls not working in them, or is it another issue? Regardless, they definitely don't work. On my first time through I was getting tired of dying to the Ancient Guard and I tried to use the Blood Soul outside the investigate elevator. I spent five minutes trying and failing because I thought I was using it wrong, and then I spent another 10 minutes on the internet/forums until I found someone else say you couldn't do it in Ocarina Realms. A change/fix for this would be really appreciated.

[memnoch87]

Originally posted by Canoness Avlaen:

Originally posted by memnoch87:

You do have the ability to create your own save games using the Fledgling Blood Soul.

So if you know a boss is right around the corner, you can have an autosave mere seconds from it.

The fledgling souls dont work in the ocarina dimensions

You are right! That's my bad. I will speak to the devs about this and give them your feedback!

[quintonhoffert]

IMO, the other problem with the Ocarina Realms is that the bosses aren't guaranteed to drop their items, so you might have to fight them a bunch of times to get them. For Dephil this isn't a big problem because her "level" is just a walk up to the fight, but for Uptancos and Princess Downaly, their levels are huge and a pain to traverse through. I think it would be nice if the Ocarina bosses were guaranteed to drop an item when killed. Uptancos and Princess Downaly only have one item to drop, so this would mean that you would only have to kill them once per playthrough. The Ancient Guard has two, but a 50/50 shot at the other item you need isn't that unreasonable, and his level is both shorter and less dangerous than the Shadow Disaster or the Frozen Realm. Dephil, of course, has no level.

[edgarska]

I have to agree, after dying so many times in shadow disaster because they decided to put a platforming level with moving hazards in a game where the character is not equipped for it.

And they decided to make the floor kill you on top of that for some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ reason.