DONT USE MELEE AND SHOTGUNS

[F.O.A.M]

they are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ garbage, use revolvers heavy weapons and snipers instead cuz they deal dmg that is over 20

[jasta85]

Shotguns are great for groups of low armor enemies like animals, which typically show up in packs and are melee so they'll be in short range anyway. You have two weapon slots, put a revolver in the first one and a shotgun as backup (they both fall under the small arms skill). Use it when you ended up getting attacked by a crowd. Luck is a good stat on small arms players anyway for the crit chance and penetration, and if you take the vicious avenger background you can ignore a bit of armor.

[Eminem]

Shotguns suck in 3 too eh? And yea didn't like them in WL2 either. Melee weapons were fine tho, specially early in WL2 cause ammo was scarce when you starting out

[Hollywood]

Originally posted by Eminem:

Shotguns suck in 3 too eh? And yea didn't like them in WL2 either. Melee weapons were fine tho, specially early in WL2 cause ammo was scarce when you starting out

Shotguns are far better than they were in WL2. WL2 was basically a rifle, sniper, explosive meta with niche roles built around unique weapons in other categories. In WL3 every gun is extremely useful. OP is just dumb on how to build characters I guess, and that's ok, just not worthy of spewing nonsense.

[talemore]

Originally posted by Eminem:

Shotguns suck in 3 too eh? And yea didn't like them in WL2 either. Melee weapons were fine tho, specially early in WL2 cause ammo was scarce when you starting out

It gets problematic in close range vs 1 enemy, I.E stalker runs up and you miss with shotgun, strangely you'll need melee weapon as support for a shotgun

The shotguns in WL2 are a little better since you can sync with bomb tubes and there's lots of minefields to farm bomb tubes in LW2

[mynameislarry84]

It is a tactical RPG. Every weapon and its handler has a role to play. The sniper can't get the shot because the guy is in cover! Blow it away (either with the aforementioned shotgun, explosives, etc.). Not everyone on the team is meant to be a killing machine. You need medics, stealth specialists, brainiacs, and on and on.

The weapons you mentioned may not be your favorite, or seem useless to you, but if you take the time to use them effectively then you might enjoy them more.

[TuffMelon]

Originally posted by D3st:

Originally posted by TuffMelon:

Also melee weapons don't have much of an AP cost.
Brawlers for example might only hit for like 10, but they hit like 4 times a turn and have a huge blast strike that stuns everything around them. Couple that with their first perk and they can do a ton of damage even against armored targets.

Yeah and you want to grab mecanist skill as well for the +% against robots.My melee is actualy my tank but i didn't mean it at first.With a good armor+mod and a good weapon she is a beast.I alway send her first.If she do not dodge the shoot,they hit her for almost nothing.I might try the hardest game setting after this walktrought to see if its still viable.

I'm only a few hours in (just finished getting the three dudes for HQ and completed the garden quest) and noticed that combining cover with some tanky armor makes your characters kind of ridiculous. I full on just had my melee character stand in the way blocking the three wolves while the other characters shot them to death.

[Muted Kobold]

Shotguns and Melee weapons are extremely viable like any weapon in the game. If you're playing on Supreme Jerk difficulty, you're gonna want those shotguns.

Shotguns are AOE weapons. While they don't have a high damage, they have an extremely low AP cost, extremely low ammunition cost (While also being pretty common), can ignore armor to cause bleed damage. Can destroy cover.

One of my characters uses dual shotguns with a high AP pool and speed. All he does is run up to a group of enemies. Unloads one shotgun, swaps to the other when he runs out of ammo, and mag dumps that. And it seriously ♥♥♥♥♥ up enough ♥♥♥♥ that a suppressing fire will finish them off.

For high armor characters, placing bleed on them is good given that bleed does a pretty stupid amount of damage per turn, which helps out when your rifles can only do chip damage.

Melee weapons are also pretty absurd. You Go with High Speed, Strength, and Coordination. Run up to someone, smash them. You can get a perk that causes bleed damage, and deals double damage to someone who's on fire. So put a molotov onto the bastard first. The AP cost for them is extremely low too. So... if you have... say Leadership on... and get a multikill going. That bonus translates to everyone else.

If you are only going to play on Easy and Normal difficulties, you don't really need to do that much tactical thinking outside of get to cover. But if you're playing on higher difficulties you'll notice that you'll need to have synergies. And that's what Melee and Shotguns do extremely well

[v0!d158]

meele is cool ... i have a char with a 2-Hand Clown-Hammer .... he rocks the Battlefield !

[[DeusVult] Eisengrind]

git gud

[Hey I'm Back!]

Higher level of shotguns were OP in WL2 so they're very useful weapons. Not a garbage.

[D3st]

Originally posted by DeusVult Eisengrind:

git gud

Kill all TFA!

[Drunk Bear]

Originally posted by moffatt:

they are ♥♥♥♥ing garbage, use revolvers heavy weapons and snipers instead cuz they deal dmg that is over 20

I one shot 4 people at once yesterday with a shotgun from full health on the hardest difficulty. Tell me again how ♥♥♥♥ shotguns are, please.

[D3st]

Originally posted by Suave Bear:

Originally posted by moffatt:

they are ♥♥♥♥ing garbage, use revolvers heavy weapons and snipers instead cuz they deal dmg that is over 20

I one shot 4 people at once yesterday with a shotgun from full health on the hardest difficulty. Tell me again how ♥♥♥♥ shotguns are, please.

The problem with the guy who made this post is the way he did it.He assume and tell people that some stuff a crap without even knowing what he is talking about.....Instead of coming with a post and saying:hey guys i need help i suck using melee and SG can you tell me why.....Ive no pity for those newb.