Absorb/Migrate/Raze what would you prefer?

[Dragisnaj]

Hello,

I would like to know what would you do when conquering or Buying settlements.

As i see you get nice Bonuses when you stay at your 1 Faction and only geting heroes in this Faction.

But Absorbing others gives you the option to terraform (Amazon/Dvar).

My Problem is i am Thinking slowly that absorbin isnt doing any good because you normaly can end the game before you can get good benefits out of the absorbed race the only think i think its broken is when you play Dvar/Vanguard and absorb Assembly for the Regen Mod for Cyborg/Mechanical.

What would you do and why?

Thanks

[sandman25dcsss]

It depends. For instance, kirko celestial has a doctrine which gives influence for every non-kirko colony and can span Ascended Teachers, syndicate is able to buff all non-syndicate tier 1-2 units which have a specific mod.
But basically I like to absorb amazons (their specialist gives -2 resistance), kirko (early regeneration mod) and vanguard (healing and +2 resistance mod).
I never raze colonies as I play only the largest maps with 12 players.

[Midas]

Unless a colony I'm capturing sits in a location ideal to use it as a production colony, I generally don't care since they're just generating resources anyways. I'll go by whatever is fastest that isn't raze (unless I'm just wiping out a faction, in which case I might raze most of the colonies)

[Jackdaw Mask]

Absorb everything :3 All shall be assimilated

[Dragisnaj]

with absorb you have the problem of Hapynes in you colonies, and you wont get the moral Buffs.
I think migrate is the way to go, and you wont be getting unsiutable heroes.

I think only benefit for Absorbing is to get Terraforming or regen mods

[sandman25dcsss]

As I said before it depends. I am absorbing syndicate and amazon in my current dvar psynumbra game.
Good thing about absorbtion is that you don't waste time on migrating capitals which are normally the largest colonies.

[Kaneda]

Keep in mind you will lose 100 repotation for 20 turns, for each colony you change to an other faction. with less reputation you have some benefits, mostly the other factions dont like you and maybe declare war on you. having different heroes from different species isnt that bad as it looks like, in the end, you win with mass units, the more higher tier units you have with an good (not the best) mod selection, you will win vs the cpu.

so just play as you like, when you want a good relation to other players (Ais) just do good things and dont raze or change colonys, even when you get declared war, just take the colonyx as they are. when the enemys are just targets for you to eliminate, do as you wish, as long you have an strong army :)

[Dragisnaj]

when the enemy declares war on me, and i dont want to absorb them i try to get HQ first Migrate it and Kill theyr Commander than his colonys become settlements which i can buy for colonist ;-)

[Dragisnaj]

and what does the rep gives anyways?
I have a Game with AI i am 1/6 they like me with 800 i am Virtous and they stil decline Alliance ... dunnoi how to get the vassal AV if i am maxed out and they decline normal aliance ....

[Charlando[SunsOfStmChrts]]

Originally posted by Dragisnaj:

than his colonys become settlements which i can buy for colonist ;-)

Nice, never thought of this one before.

[Midas]

You have to build up reputation with other factions to get them to like you. Sending compliments every turn is the easiest way to do it.

[Dragisnaj]

i had 800 likes from him?

[Akazury]

Originally posted by Dragisnaj:

and what does the rep gives anyways?
I have a Game with AI i am 1/6 they like me with 800 i am Virtous and they stil decline Alliance ... dunnoi how to get the vassal AV if i am maxed out and they decline normal aliance ....

Diplomacy is influenced by a ton of sub system such as Opinion (the one you have at 800), Reputation (you're virtuous), Race Relation, Dislike (this can be quite the blocker), you're Military Strength and AI plans. The AI won't really do things just because you're nice, they need to think that there is a benefit to be gained there.

Besides that Vassal and Alliance are different things and one won't make the other easier. You can negotiate/demand a Vassalage at any time. Also currently if you make a trade offer and they reject it a turn timer will start before they will reevaluate. Offering again within that time frame will reset the timer.

[sandman25dcsss]

Originally posted by Dragisnaj:

when the enemy declares war on me, and i dont want to absorb them i try to get HQ first Migrate it and Kill theyr Commander than his colonys become settlements which i can buy for colonist ;-)

Try to do it in a reversed order. When you have some of their colonies being absorbed/migrated and their capital/leader die, the absorbtion/migration processes are instantly completed. It saves lots of turns.

[sandman25dcsss]

Originally posted by CharlandoSunsOfStmChrts:

Originally posted by Dragisnaj:

than his colonys become settlements which i can buy for colonist ;-)

Nice, never thought of this one before.

I don't see how it is useful. Getting the colonies by attacking does not give any penalty/bonus and you still have your influence. Also one colonist is almost meaningless at this point while extra colony can save you huge amount of energy and cosmite (I don't build colonizers after they cost like 450 energy and 60 cosmite).

[Dragisnaj]

even than not if you find a good landmark? for unit production? or to take a dwelling?