Will sonic generations end up like Colors Ultimate?

[◣Aki◥]

I've seen the leak that sonic generations will have a remaster, but.

Will the game end up like Colors Ultimate?? Thanks

[Pz. Kpfw. VIII Maus]

Frankly its just way too early to call it, but I will mention that SEGA's current track record of remakes/remasters (at least for sonic in recent history) seems to show that they don't realize that less really can be more when it comes to re-releasing older titles on modern platforms. The best case scenario we can hope for is that SEGA learns from the backlash of Origins & Sonic Colors Ultimate either goes for a simple port to modern systems or just leaves the old Sonic Generations listed alongside the remade version and make everyone happy (though corporations hate doing that so it's highly unlikely that will happen). Worst comes to worse, the SG modding community will probably find a way to fix whatever (or at least most of the) glaring issues that'll plague the game if it does come out half-baked.

TL;DR I'm personally cautiously optimistic, but we really don't have enough to go on (only rumors at the moment) to make a definitive call this early on.

[mdesaleah]

^Or the other way around.

Any new content that could be added in the pointless remaster, will most likely just be modded into the original version.

[Pz. Kpfw. VIII Maus]

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

^Or the other way around.

Any new content that could be added in the pointless remaster, will most likely just be modded into the original version.

I've heard that it's now been somewhat confirmed (still not officially) to be dubbed "Sonic x Shadow Generations" so unless we get Shadow The Hedgehog (2005 game) stages in the SG styles, anything this remaster can bring to the table is literally already in the OG game thanks to mods like the "Real Shadow Mod" or "Shadow Generations" and Shadow voice mods.

[mdesaleah]

Originally posted by Pz. Kpfw. VIII Maus:

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

^Or the other way around.

Any new content that could be added in the pointless remaster, will most likely just be modded into the original version.

I've heard that it's now been somewhat confirmed (still not officially) to be dubbed "Sonic x Shadow Generations" so unless we get Shadow The Hedgehog (2005 game) stages in the SG styles, anything this remaster can bring to the table is literally already in the OG game thanks to mods like the "Real Shadow Mod" or "Shadow Generations" and Shadow voice mods.

SA2 ported isn’t needed either, but you’d think that would be the most obvious choice if they want to promote the 3rd movie with Shadow in it.

Or maybe port SA2, Heroes, and Shadow 2005 to all systems.

Instead of supposedly remastering a game that’s already on PC, and putting more Shadow things in it where they weren’t before

[Pz. Kpfw. VIII Maus]

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

Originally posted by Pz. Kpfw. VIII Maus:

I've heard that it's now been somewhat confirmed (still not officially) to be dubbed "Sonic x Shadow Generations" so unless we get Shadow The Hedgehog (2005 game) stages in the SG styles, anything this remaster can bring to the table is literally already in the OG game thanks to mods like the "Real Shadow Mod" or "Shadow Generations" and Shadow voice mods.

SA2 ported isn’t needed either, but you’d think that would be the most obvious choice if they want to promote the 3rd movie with Shadow in it.

Or maybe port SA2, Heroes, and Shadow 2005 to all systems.

Instead of supposedly remastering a game that’s already on PC, and putting more Shadow things in it where they weren’t before

Agreed, there were better candidates for a remaster (a point which I've already harped on in other threads) and I sincerely doubt the shadow additions to S x SG (what I'm gonna abbreviate it to) are going to hold a candle to what mods for the current steam listing of SG have already accomplished.

Frankly, Heroes, Shadow 2005, Unleashed, or even 06 were more deserving of new releases than this game.

My best guess is that SEGA/Sonic Team wanted to play it safe and "remaster" (again, cautiously optimistic that they don't butcher one of sonic's best games when it releases and the original is inevitably delisted) one of their most well-received titles and just tack shadow onto it because he's basically the keys that SEGA can jingle to draw interest to a game. All of this to drum up hype for Sonic Movie 3 and get some good PR going.

I honestly predict that at best SxSG will get a "shadow story" that's just a modified version (albeit slightly compressed as shadow has little to no connection to the genesis games) of the original story putting shadow in the spotlight and slightly revamped stages (likely just minor additions to increase difficulty but nothing earth shattering). and at worse it'll just be a reskin for Modern Sonic and *maybe* a Classic Sonic reskin, which again, has already been accomplished by the fans via free mods. It's nice to imagine entirely new stages for Shadow's history like Radical Highway, Westopolis, White Acropolis, or Circus Park (insert 4th chaos emerald joke here) but I really just don't believe SEGA would go above & beyond like that.

But hey, if the game ends up being a masterpiece that largely improves on the original I'll be happy to have SEGA prove my cynicism wrong (though I probably still will complain about them cutting off access to the OG game's incredible modding scene).

[ManuPlays05]

Colors Ultimate is a port that was made to make Godot engine look so bad I CAN'T

[Ghost Sonic]

my concerns if Sega delists the original we could end up with denuvo in the remastered version and denuvo causes performance issues and one day that DRM will go out of business making any game using denuvo will be unplayable.

[mdesaleah]

Add to how Sonic Team is still addicted to rehashing nostalgia to the point where a Generations 2 would barely have any truly original content to lift from with how much they’ve reused levels since.

Frontiers was a step away from that. And hopefully it’s good reception nails it in that they don’t have to focus on the same 3 zones every game to have something good. If anything, the reused zones for the cyberspace levels is the worst aspect

[Mez Koo]

Originally posted by Pz. Kpfw. VIII Maus:

anything this remaster can bring to the table is literally already in the OG game thanks to mods like the "Real Shadow Mod" or "Shadow Generations" and Shadow voice mods.

This aged poorly.

[Pz. Kpfw. VIII Maus]

Originally posted by Mez Koo:

Originally posted by Pz. Kpfw. VIII Maus:

anything this remaster can bring to the table is literally already in the OG game thanks to mods like the "Real Shadow Mod" or "Shadow Generations" and Shadow voice mods.

This aged poorly.

Frankly I'm glad that I was wrong though, just saw the trailer now and I'm hyped that they'll actually do shadow justice instead of just offering a reskin of Modern Sonic and calling it a day.

[mdesaleah]

When being proven wrong is the best outcome.

Glad that trailer happened.

[D Jay Hush]

I'm going to say maybe considering Sega's track record with remasters.

[◣Aki◥]

Okay i changed the opinion

Sonic X Shadow Generations looks so good, and i like the shadow part more.

[mdesaleah]

Originally posted by D Jay Hush:

I'm going to say maybe considering Sega's track record with remasters.

We just got the trailer.

And just seeing it shows its definitely not a Colors Ultimate situation.

We're safe.

[Mez Koo]

Originally posted by Pz. Kpfw. VIII Maus:

Originally posted by Mez Koo:

This aged poorly.

Frankly I'm glad that I was wrong though, just saw the trailer now and I'm hyped that they'll actually do shadow justice instead of just offering a reskin of Modern Sonic and calling it a day.

Yep, I'm very surprised they're actually including chaos control and chaos spear as far as we've seen.