The difference between this and Operation Tokyo?

[Mr. Blue Sky]

Is this a sequel?

[Fiona]

Yes, this is a 'sequel' of sorts. I never played Tokyo but I heard that in comparison, this has improvements compared to the Tokyo. (I owned Osaka on vita)

[Mr. Blue Sky]

Originally posted by Beatrix Brehme:

Yes, this is a 'sequel' of sorts. I never played Tokyo but I heard that in comparison, this has improvements compared to the Tokyo. (I owned Osaka on vita)

Thanks for the information

[ffleader1]

Originally posted by Beatrix Brehme:

Yes, this is a 'sequel' of sorts. I never played Tokyo but I heard that in comparison, this has improvements compared to the Tokyo. (I owned Osaka on vita)

I don't want to make a new thread because not many ppl care about this game anyway.
If I may ask, what exactly does fighting a lot do?
I mean, what is the real advantages of fighting becides giving me chances to drop parts?
Does fighting give me EXP for Electro-Enhancement?
Anything else could be the advantages of fighting a lot?
Thank you.

[Mr. Blue Sky]

Originally posted by ffleader1:

Originally posted by Beatrix Brehme:

Yes, this is a 'sequel' of sorts. I never played Tokyo but I heard that in comparison, this has improvements compared to the Tokyo. (I owned Osaka on vita)

I don't want to make a new thread because not many ppl care about this game anyway.
If I may ask, what exactly does fighting a lot do?
I mean, what is the real advantages of fighting becides giving me chances to drop parts?
Does fighting give me EXP for Electro-Enhancement?
Anything else could be the advantages of fighting a lot?
Thank you.

I'll wait and see what others say, I played about a half hour of the first one two years ago and honestly forget. What I do remember, for the most part, is that fighting just simply gets you through the level so if this title is the same as the former the price tag is currently waaaay too steep.

[ffleader1]

Originally posted by The Good Slaveship "Lollipop":

Originally posted by ffleader1:

I don't want to make a new thread because not many ppl care about this game anyway.
If I may ask, what exactly does fighting a lot do?
I mean, what is the real advantages of fighting becides giving me chances to drop parts?
Does fighting give me EXP for Electro-Enhancement?
Anything else could be the advantages of fighting a lot?
Thank you.

I'll wait and see what others say, I played about a half hour of the first one two years ago and honestly forget. What I do remember, for the most part, is that fighting just simply gets you through the level so if this title is the same as the former the price tag is currently waaaay too steep.

So u happen to know what exactly does the minerals do: Tungsten and Orc? Something like that?

[Mr. Blue Sky]

Originally posted by ffleader1:

Originally posted by The Good Slaveship "Lollipop":

I'll wait and see what others say, I played about a half hour of the first one two years ago and honestly forget. What I do remember, for the most part, is that fighting just simply gets you through the level so if this title is the same as the former the price tag is currently waaaay too steep.

So u happen to know what exactly does the minerals do: Tungsten and Orc? Something like that?

Not from memory; there may be new gameplay features in this second title
but those two titles sound like the names of mechs (ie; Orc Mech, Tungsten Mech)

[Neeya]

Fighting does get you extra XP for Electro-Enhancement (I never played Operation Tokyo, so I don’t know if that mechanic was present in the first game), so it’s worth doing—you’ll earn it from both arena matches and the dungeon-crawl segments.

Tungsten, Silver, Titanium, etc. are money drops—they don’t take up loot slots for what you bring back, and can add up to a tidy sum over a full crawl. You’ll also occasionally find company-specific “chips” that can be used in the “Trade” section of the store for some really nice equipment.

Finally, if you fail to win the Kami-One championship at the end of the 25 days, time rewinds, but you get to keep whatever GEAR pieces you have equipped, your overall Electro-Enhancement Level (you still can’t access it until you advance time to when it unlocks, and it resets your allocation, so you get a free respec, essentially), and your arena rank (meaning you can access better parts and deeper exploration missions from the get-go. There are also some slight changes to the cutscenes. I’ve only rewound once so far, so I’m not sure if there are additional changes on subsequent rewinds.

[ffleader1]

Originally posted by Neeya:

Fighting does get you extra XP for Electro-Enhancement (I never played Operation Tokyo, so I don’t know if that mechanic was present in the first game), so it’s worth doing—you’ll earn it from both arena matches and the dungeon-crawl segments.

Tungsten, Silver, Titanium, etc. are money drops—they don’t take up loot slots for what you bring back, and can add up to a tidy sum over a full crawl. You’ll also occasionally find company-specific “chips” that can be used in the “Trade” section of the store for some really nice equipment.

Finally, if you fail to win the Kami-One championship at the end of the 25 days, time rewinds, but you get to keep whatever GEAR pieces you have equipped, your overall Electro-Enhancement Level (you still can’t access it until you advance time to when it unlocks, and it resets your allocation, so you get a free respec, essentially), and your arena rank (meaning you can access better parts and deeper exploration missions from the get-go. There are also some slight changes to the cutscenes. I’ve only rewound once so far, so I’m not sure if there are additional changes on subsequent rewinds.

Thank you, very informative.
Though I am curious that where can u get better equipment than those for sale at the Shop when u reach Rank A? Grind the Rank A mission at deep-level dungeon? I mean if that is the case, might as well keep grinding for XP, then upgrade the Electro-Enhancement lol.

[Neeya]

That’s where I’m at—grinding the Rank A exploration (mission rewards seem better than for the “investigation” mission, despite both being 40 floors) for electro-XP and specifically aiming for RAGE and trap (“intercept system”) floors, since they tend to have better parts. I’ve yet to run into the “supermassive GEAR” some of the missions ask for, unfortunately.

The RAGE enemies have the advantage of dropping C-Cancellers, even if the part drops sometimes aren’t great on upper floors—you need those to “unseal” the Atsuga-type parts so you can actually make use of their traits, and they cost 20mil each if you have to buy them from the store.

[ffleader1]

Originally posted by Neeya:

That’s where I’m at—grinding the Rank A exploration (mission rewards seem better than for the “investigation” mission, despite both being 40 floors) for electro-XP and specifically aiming for RAGE and trap (“intercept system”) floors, since they tend to have better parts. I’ve yet to run into the “supermassive GEAR” some of the missions ask for, unfortunately.

The RAGE enemies have the advantage of dropping C-Cancellers, even if the part drops sometimes aren’t great on upper floors—you need those to “unseal” the Atsuga-type parts so you can actually make use of their traits, and they cost 20mil each if you have to buy them from the store.

Yeah the Investigation mission drop is just not as good. They are labelled "Legendary Part" and even with them equipped, I still got ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up when entering the Arena. So yeah, I think that the Electro-Enhancement, if maxed out, will yield better strength, rather than the equipment themselves. Or maybe there is a secret place to drop god-class equipment that I am not aware of. AsI remember, the shop does sell some parts with actual figure name like Beelzebub-B. So I guess there should be a full set of it in the game? Some how?I dunno.

[Neeya]

The ones with names (Thanatos, Reginleif, Raphael, Parcival, Beelzebub) are the Atsuga-corp machines that show up on RAGE floors during exploration. If you don't have a weapon with the "Anti-Atsuga" trait, they can be very difficult to beat. You're right that the store occasionally sells Atsuga parts in the Rare section, but the name being in red indicates that the parts are "sealed" (as are the ones you get off of Atsuga mechs in the dungeon). To unseal them, you need to open the "sub menu" (the one that lets you register or sell a part directly from the "Customize" menu where you equip them) and select "Unseal Part" to activate their traits and improve their stats (when unsealed, for instance, my Parcival_GG became Parcival+_GG and gained a couple extra traits).


The Common/Uncommon/Rare/Legendary thing for dropped parts is just referring to their Rank relative to your current Arena Rank. If you're only Rank C or B, Rank B or Rank A parts will mostly register as Legendary--once you get to Rank A, you start finding fewer "Legendary" drops as a result. I've actually hit the 190-part bag limit during exploration runs, so here's a tip: if you're only hunting for higher-rarity drops, you can avoid picking up lower-rarity drops. Legendary drops have a pillar of light effect coming up off of them, Rare parts have little holo-squares floating around them in red and blue, Uncommon parts have only blue holo-squares around them, and Common parts don't have any visual effects when they're lying on the floor of the dungeon.

[ffleader1]

Originally posted by Neeya:

The ones with names (Thanatos, Reginleif, Raphael, Parcival, Beelzebub) are the Atsuga-corp machines that show up on RAGE floors during exploration. If you don't have a weapon with the "Anti-Atsuga" trait, they can be very difficult to beat. You're right that the store occasionally sells Atsuga parts in the Rare section, but the name being in red indicates that the parts are "sealed" (as are the ones you get off of Atsuga mechs in the dungeon). To unseal them, you need to open the "sub menu" (the one that lets you register or sell a part directly from the "Customize" menu where you equip them) and select "Unseal Part" to activate their traits and improve their stats (when unsealed, for instance, my Parcival_GG became Parcival+_GG and gained a couple extra traits).


The Common/Uncommon/Rare/Legendary thing for dropped parts is just referring to their Rank relative to your current Arena Rank. If you're only Rank C or B, Rank B or Rank A parts will mostly register as Legendary--once you get to Rank A, you start finding fewer "Legendary" drops as a result. I've actually hit the 190-part bag limit during exploration runs, so here's a tip: if you're only hunting for higher-rarity drops, you can avoid picking up lower-rarity drops. Legendary drops have a pillar of light effect coming up off of them, Rare parts have little holo-squares floating around them in red and blue, Uncommon parts have only blue holo-squares around them, and Common parts don't have any visual effects when they're lying on the floor of the dungeon.

Oh thank you. Very informative ^^

[ffleader1]

Besides, have you ever come across errors like: the girl predict next floor, there will be exit point... but there is none, OR the Arena shows that you will fight with an opponent, but the actually fight, you has to fight another?

[Neeya]

Your support android isn't always correct with her predictions, but one of the loading tooltips says that she "gets more accurate as you successfully complete more missions", so I think she's supposed to improve over time.

As for the Arena opponent changing, I think there was a tooltip that mentioned something about "ambushes" or "invasions" for arena matches, and that the rewards for winning in those cases were more substantial. So it's not a glitch, it's definitely something that the game can just do to you if it feels like it.

[Mr. Blue Sky]

Originally posted by Neeya:

Fighting does get you extra XP for Electro-Enhancement (I never played Operation Tokyo, so I don’t know if that mechanic was present in the first game), so it’s worth doing—you’ll earn it from both arena matches and the dungeon-crawl segments.

Tungsten, Silver, Titanium, etc. are money drops—they don’t take up loot slots for what you bring back, and can add up to a tidy sum over a full crawl. You’ll also occasionally find company-specific “chips” that can be used in the “Trade” section of the store for some really nice equipment.

Finally, if you fail to win the Kami-One championship at the end of the 25 days, time rewinds, but you get to keep whatever GEAR pieces you have equipped, your overall Electro-Enhancement Level (you still can’t access it until you advance time to when it unlocks, and it resets your allocation, so you get a free respec, essentially), and your arena rank (meaning you can access better parts and deeper exploration missions from the get-go. There are also some slight changes to the cutscenes. I’ve only rewound once so far, so I’m not sure if there are additional changes on subsequent rewinds.

This sounds much more replayable than the first one