The new Experimental weapons ...

[Will_fires_back]

I got a hold of the Experimental HP5 from taking down a Vulture.

Anyone found how to get the other two yet?

[big knee]

the meusser also seems to drop from vultures, i just got the AI-76 from a random rival firebird though

[QQ]

Does location matter? like new areas or any?

[Will_fires_back]

Originally posted by QQ:

Does location matter? like new areas or any?

Any location.

I'm looking for the new ones from the Showdown Update:
“Any Ammo” Experimental AI-76, and “Dragon’s Breath” Experimental Sjöqvist.

I already have the “Smart Gun” Experimental HP5.

The reason for the ask is that previously it has been that only certain weapons drop from certain rival classes, so i am asking if anyone has discovered where these two drop from.

[wilrk05]

I got my Sjoqvist from the Reaper. Pretty sure it was in the Forest region, east of Grannyhaget.

[Black Jack]

I didn't get any Experimental off the level three Rival or level three base attack at all the other day felt let down.

[QQ]

Originally posted by Black Jack:

I didn't get any Experimental off the level three Rival or level three base attack at all the other day felt let down.

From what i recall, they will suicide if you dont kill them fast enough and your chances on getting Exp weapons is less. i tried to kill one but he suicides but i still get a Exp weapon just not one of the new ones and other times no Exp weapon. Not 100% sure if thats how it works but seems like it.

[DedZedNub]

There was a mechanic, per reports and videos, that if the Reaper self-destructs and that results in killing himself before you kill him, you get lesser loot.

Not sure if it is still the case. But, basically, the best of these reports from the better players, tended to agree with QQ's assessment.

Not sure if the Reaper Suicide still matters now. Never taken one on yet.

[Will_fires_back]

Originally posted by DedZedNub:

There was a mechanic, per reports and videos, that if the Reaper self-destructs and that results in killing himself before you kill him, you get lesser loot.

Not sure if it is still the case. But, basically, the best of these reports from the better players, tended to agree with QQ's assessment.

Not sure if the Reaper Suicide still matters now. Never taken one on yet.

Yes, that is true. Not sure if it still applies after this last update, but if you took the reaper out before its final destruction, you could possibly get two experimental weapons.

One is lost if it destructs before you finish it off, and another loss if you are downed during the fight.

The presence of both weapons is not guaranteed.

[DedZedNub]

OOoohoooOh. That's sounds definitive, Will. Didn't know about the losing one if you are downed during the fight. That would explain why some were always asking why they got no special weapons. Makes sense. And surviving the Reaper fight is a piece of work from what I viewed, especially if you don't know the tactics.

Something like some rocks and other hard cover, maybe like pre-fabs, block his blasts, but not his last mega-blast or something. There must be two types and a way to tell which is which by his sounds and special effects colors or something.

But if you don't have full hard cover like even the head shows, you get downed. I don't know if the other type of blast, maybe it is the one that damages himself, is not avoidable or not. I think I saw one vid one time where he could damage himself 3 times, maybe on Guerrilla before he died. Man that has to be a tough fight. (Besides that he is armed up the wazoo, a super-Rival, and detects well and is super persistent)

[Will_fires_back]

Originally posted by DedZedNub:

OOoohoooOh. That's sounds definitive, Will. Didn't know about the losing one if you are downed during the fight. That would explain why some were always asking why they got no special weapons. Makes sense. And surviving the Reaper fight is a piece of work from what I viewed, especially if you don't know the tactics.

Something like some rocks and other hard cover, maybe like pre-fabs, block his blasts, but not his last mega-blast or something. There must be two types and a way to tell which is which by his sounds and special effects colors or something.

But if you don't have full hard cover like even the head shows, you get downed. I don't know if the other type of blast, maybe it is the one that damages himself, is not avoidable or not. I think I saw one vid one time where he could damage himself 3 times, maybe on Guerrilla before he died. Man that has to be a tough fight.

I have a working strategy for taking them on, and it has proven reasonably successful:

I take TWO PM-71 lmg's and a GRG m/49 to the fight.

I reload behind hard cover during its nuclear farts, and I use the splash damage from the GRG to take out its dogs once they drop.

Survey the area BEFORE you engage and work out the best place for cover. Then, take a few shots at it to bait it to your location. Don't go after it, or you'll likely be out in the open.
Take your time getting it to move - it can be a stubborn SOB and usually just sits there, so plink it enough times to p**s it off and eventually it will start to move towards you.

Then you do the deed: Shield emitters first, then the weapons. The shield doesn't make it invulnerable, but it does greatly reduce your damage. Timing helps conserve ammo.

It has four attack types:
1 - Machine guns using incendiary rounds. Very high RoF.
2 - Missiles like the ones Apoc harvesters use that leave radioactive puddles.
3 - The green Nuclear fart. It will sound off beforehand, so time to either get out of range, or get behind hard cover. It is insta-death if you get caught in the blast.
4 - FNIX Missile dogs x6 after every fart cycle. It will attempt to attack you to protect the dogs deployment time.

When it is in its death throes, it will sound distorted and emits purple gas. Just keep on the trigger, and switch weapons rather than stop to reload. If you die in the final blast, there is always a chance you'll get one of the weapons, but if you stand your ground, you might get lucky.

[Will_fires_back]

Originally posted by Black Jack:

I didn't get any Experimental off the level three Rival or level three base attack at all the other day felt let down.

Them's the breaks. The presence of experimental weapons is not guaranteed on ANY of the rivals.

Keep trying. You will get lucky more times than not.

[cruste]

got the shotgun from military grade rival hunter in östervik forest

[Nosteru]

I got the Exp AI-76 from a LVL3 Base Assault Reward.