Generation Zero®

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Cray Dec 12, 2024 @ 7:18am
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Final update - clown dev team
I may just get banned from here for even putting it like that, and I don't care. These guys are unbelievable.

So the new update has, again, done what they always seem to do:

1) Add new features, that nobody asked for, before old ones work properly.
2) Not fixed bugs and simple missing features that have been issues for years.
3) Changed the game under your feet.
4) Introduced new, dumb bugs that could have been caught in basic testing.
5) [ this list item is missing, but will be added in a future update, maybe ]
6) Bonus feature for myself: game doesn't even launch any more. Worked yesterday, now it just won't start. Nice, 10/10 guys.

And this is their final update? Not fixing egregious bugs, not implement dead-easy-to-code obvious features people have asked for for years, but adding more stuff, still not learning from past mistakes indicating that you shouldn't add new stuff to what's broken, but first fix the problems?

I regret ever buying this or gifting it to anyone, and I'll make sure to never purchase anything from this studio again and warn others to stay away. You had your chance for years now and you just don't learn.
Last edited by Cray; Dec 12, 2024 @ 10:13am
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Random / GER Dec 12, 2024 @ 8:21am 
xD
Meta03 Dec 12, 2024 @ 8:31am 
I do not understand Avalanche. They need money to continue producing, yet the way they go about it is mind boggling. This game has SO MUCH potential, it is similar to STALKER which is a classic, for example.
Avalanche does not appear to care much about consumers of their products (I truly hope I am wrong in this), not realizing how much more audience they would gather if they would put people who support them (gamers who know gamers who know gamers, etc.) ahead of money.
Alkpaz Dec 12, 2024 @ 8:47am 
I dunno, maybe, play something else if you don't like it? Also, plays fine for me, but mine is a fresh install, I just backed up my save file.
Last edited by Alkpaz; Dec 12, 2024 @ 8:49am
cruste Dec 12, 2024 @ 8:55am 
as after every other update of software
which might trigger false positive of your fancy antivirus until you create prober exceptionrules or change the av if you have something extra fancy while you feel so insecure so you need the extra protection

the issue will simply fix itself when the av library gets its update as always

if it is so easy to code
hand out the community patch which solves all the issues now while the game won't get any other updates anymore...
i doubt you can while you already fail at the basics like your antivirus issue
Last edited by cruste; Dec 12, 2024 @ 9:02am
Cray Dec 12, 2024 @ 9:05am 
Originally posted by Alkpaz:
I dunno, maybe, play something else if you don't like it? Also, plays fine for me, but mine is a fresh install, I just backed up my save file.

"It works for me, so it's not a problem" so what? Simple thing is, for someone else it doesn't work, because of the update. The fact that it works for you doesn't change that, and it's hardly relevant.

"Just go play something else" isn't the sane takeaway here. The game mostly worked before, minus a couple of breaking bugs. Instead of fixing things people have reported to them for years, they keep adding new stuff and leaving old broken things unfixed. They've been doing it since launch and they haven't properly fixed it for five years, and they're getting paid for it.

But yeah, let's just pay for something, and if it's broken by an update that's fine, leave the money in their pocket and go play something else. Broken logic. They're responsible for what they ship, and when people pay them for it they're responsible for making sure it works first and foremost.
DK75 Dec 12, 2024 @ 10:02am 
Originally posted by Cray:
I may just get banned from here for even putting it like that, and I don't care. These guys are unbelievable.

So the new update has, again, done what they always seem to do:

1) Add new features, that nobody asked for, before old ones work properly.
2) Not fixed bugs and simple missing features that have been issues for years.
3) Changed the game under your feet.
4) Introduced new, dumb bugs that could have been caught in basic testing.

6) Bonus feature for myself: game doesn't even launch any more. Worked yesterday, now it just won't start. Nice, 10/10 guys.

And this is their final update? Not fixing egregious bugs, not implement dead-easy-to-code obvious features people have asked for for years, but adding more stuff, still not learning from past mistakes indicating that you shouldn't add new stuff to what's broken, but first fix the problems?

I regret ever buying this or gifting it to anyone, and I'll make sure to never purchase anything from this studio again and warn others to stay away. You had your chance for years now and you just don't learn.

Well, better learn to count :)
1,2,3,4..6 and what is about 5?

Maybe you are the error in front of the computer?
Game-Update runs like a charm, well i still used my install from 2019 - so no problems there at all. I also continue my savegame from the last story update, so this is also some very old savegame. Also no problems with the new update, What is wrong with you?

Do you hate this game, or do you hate what the devs do?
..or simply do you hate yourself?

This update marks the end of the development for this chapter of Generation Zero.
Well 5 years of nice gaming, yeah not be perfect but a solid one.

Maybe you should play something else, maybe more Ubisoft-Games, maybe they are better for you?

Stay away if you don't like this game, please.
Cray Dec 12, 2024 @ 10:11am 
Originally posted by DK75:
Originally posted by Cray:
I may just get banned from here for even putting it like that, and I don't care. These guys are unbelievable.

So the new update has, again, done what they always seem to do:

1) Add new features, that nobody asked for, before old ones work properly.
2) Not fixed bugs and simple missing features that have been issues for years.
3) Changed the game under your feet.
4) Introduced new, dumb bugs that could have been caught in basic testing.

6) Bonus feature for myself: game doesn't even launch any more. Worked yesterday, now it just won't start. Nice, 10/10 guys.

And this is their final update? Not fixing egregious bugs, not implement dead-easy-to-code obvious features people have asked for for years, but adding more stuff, still not learning from past mistakes indicating that you shouldn't add new stuff to what's broken, but first fix the problems?

I regret ever buying this or gifting it to anyone, and I'll make sure to never purchase anything from this studio again and warn others to stay away. You had your chance for years now and you just don't learn.

Well, better learn to count :)
1,2,3,4..6 and what is about 5?

Maybe you are the error in front of the computer?
Game-Update runs like a charm, well i still used my install from 2019 - so no problems there at all. I also continue my savegame from the last story update, so this is also some very old savegame. Also no problems with the new update, What is wrong with you?

Do you hate this game, or do you hate what the devs do?
..or simply do you hate yourself?

This update marks the end of the development for this chapter of Generation Zero.
Well 5 years of nice gaming, yeah not be perfect but a solid one.

Maybe you should play something else, maybe more Ubisoft-Games, maybe they are better for you?

Stay away if you don't like this game, please.

"It works for me, so if others have a problem that must be not real"
"lol a typo, better take the time to point that out"

Look up '"it works for me" fallacy', it'll serve you well to learn basics.

Can safely ignore the rest when all you add is childish blabbering insults and poor reasoning at best.
DedZedNub Dec 12, 2024 @ 10:13am 
It's early for me, but I have a post for my first hour continuing a Level 10 Character in an OFFLINE ONLY, no Building Blocks Mission Yet, no Ringfort Mission Yet, Campaign from June/July 2024.

I have no issues so far. It runs really smooth and fast, GUI is much more responsive, was able to upgrade the Recycling Station to new levels fine.

There seems to be too much Heavy Ordinance Dropping even just in static loot and killing basic runners in the Archipelago, but that's so far my only issue.

Doesn't mean it is good for everybody, which is why I mentioned no Control Points I've Taken and Built On , and no Ringfort Mission done.

I'm also not yet using the Companion, that's for another character later when I resume it.
SavRoyale Dec 12, 2024 @ 10:16am 
Originally posted by Cray:
I may just get banned from here for even putting it like that, and I don't care. These guys are unbelievable.

So the new update has, again, done what they always seem to do:

1) Add new features, that nobody asked for, before old ones work properly.
2) Not fixed bugs and simple missing features that have been issues for years.
3) Changed the game under your feet.
4) Introduced new, dumb bugs that could have been caught in basic testing.
5) [ this list item is missing, but will be added in a future update, maybe ]
6) Bonus feature for myself: game doesn't even launch any more. Worked yesterday, now it just won't start. Nice, 10/10 guys.

And this is their final update? Not fixing egregious bugs, not implement dead-easy-to-code obvious features people have asked for for years, but adding more stuff, still not learning from past mistakes indicating that you shouldn't add new stuff to what's broken, but first fix the problems?

I regret ever buying this or gifting it to anyone, and I'll make sure to never purchase anything from this studio again and warn others to stay away. You had your chance for years now and you just don't learn.

may i ask you how many hours you got in this Game? How can you expect Developers to Update their Game for 5 Years+ with no income. I think they did pretty well.

i know that's just a slogan but "do it better yourself"
Last edited by SavRoyale; Dec 12, 2024 @ 10:16am
SilverX95 Dec 12, 2024 @ 10:20am 
Originally posted by Cray:
I may just get banned from here for even putting it like that, and I don't care.
6) Bonus feature for myself: game doesn't even launch any more. Worked yesterday, now it just won't start. Nice, 10/10 guys.
had your chance for years now and you just don't learn.
game works fine for me been playing on and off for a few years now and just now so yeah maybe its some software on your computer
Cray Dec 12, 2024 @ 10:25am 
Originally posted by SavRoyale:
may i ask you how many hours you got in this Game? How can you expect Developers to Update their Game for 5 Years+ with no income. I think they did pretty well.

120 now, played on and off for years, gave up in the earlier days because it had too many bugs and I preferred to wait and let it mature. Picked it up a few times since, gave it a solid go the past few months with two different rigs hoping it'd prove more reliable. Had some fun, but still ran into some major issues like crash prone areas and broken missions mid/late game.

Originally posted by SavRoyale:
How can you expect Developers to Update their Game for 5 Years+ with no income. I think they did pretty well.

Look, that's just not how it works. You can't sell a broken product and refrain from fixing it, and then say "sorry, but we don't have the money".

Like any other business, it's your responsibility to plan ahead and make sure you can deliver what you said you would. Selling games is a business, works the same way here as anywhere else - if you did a poor job and ran out of funds, that's your fault and your problem, but it's not a valid excuse.

If they've overreached and bitten over more than they can chew, that's on them.

Plus, they've proven repeatedly that they do have the funds to keep developers working on the game, or there wouldn't have been any more updates. Instead of focusing the dev time on fixing clearly broken things that people reported numerous times, they've gone their own way and just kept adding new stuff.

If they'd released it as an early access game like this, I'd say "ok, sucks, but it was early access, can't ask the world of that", but it wasn't.

Some parts of their team did very well, yeah. The designers, concept artists, lighting and visuals, sound engineering, etc. is really good. And it drowns in a buggy engine and poor leadership/direction.
Cray Dec 12, 2024 @ 10:29am 
Originally posted by SilverX95:
game works fine for me been playing on and off for a few years now and just now so yeah maybe its some software on your computer

The forums are replete with mentions of bugs, and the engine itself is well proven to have many. Two others have already reported they can't launch the game either.

Safe to assume the "some software on my computer" causing it is the update.
SilverX95 Dec 12, 2024 @ 10:32am 
Originally posted by Cray:
Originally posted by SilverX95:
game works fine for me been playing on and off for a few years now and just now so yeah maybe its some software on your computer

The forums are replete with mentions of bugs, and the engine itself is well proven to have many. Two others have already reported they can't launch the game either.

Safe to assume the "some software on my computer" causing it is the update.
or your just ignorant and your computer has junk software like an overprotective antivirus but hay it's not like i can play the game right now or anything
AndrooID Dec 12, 2024 @ 11:22am 
Originally posted by DK75:
Originally posted by Cray:
I may just get banned from here for even putting it like that, and I don't care. These guys are unbelievable.

So the new update has, again, done what they always seem to do:

1) Add new features, that nobody asked for, before old ones work properly.
2) Not fixed bugs and simple missing features that have been issues for years.
3) Changed the game under your feet.
4) Introduced new, dumb bugs that could have been caught in basic testing.

6) Bonus feature for myself: game doesn't even launch any more. Worked yesterday, now it just won't start. Nice, 10/10 guys.

And this is their final update? Not fixing egregious bugs, not implement dead-easy-to-code obvious features people have asked for for years, but adding more stuff, still not learning from past mistakes indicating that you shouldn't add new stuff to what's broken, but first fix the problems?

I regret ever buying this or gifting it to anyone, and I'll make sure to never purchase anything from this studio again and warn others to stay away. You had your chance for years now and you just don't learn.

Well, better learn to count :)
1,2,3,4..6 and what is about 5?

Maybe you are the error in front of the computer?
Game-Update runs like a charm, well i still used my install from 2019 - so no problems there at all. I also continue my savegame from the last story update, so this is also some very old savegame. Also no problems with the new update, What is wrong with you?

Do you hate this game, or do you hate what the devs do?
..or simply do you hate yourself?

This update marks the end of the development for this chapter of Generation Zero.
Well 5 years of nice gaming, yeah not be perfect but a solid one.

Maybe you should play something else, maybe more Ubisoft-Games, maybe they are better for you?

Stay away if you don't like this game, please.

what a krispy kreme glazer. crays opinion was more than valid. the game has had serious issues with softlocks and progress hindering bugs for years and im not surprised that hes mad. sure the softlocks have been fixed many times, but also new ones appeared later.
its a good game with many issues. i think theres even a law in EU regarding that games after the release should be in playable state. this one always was a gamble, you're either fine or get sotftlocked when played during a specific patch.
Foxrun Dec 12, 2024 @ 11:24am 
Originally posted by Cray:
I may just get banned from here for even putting it like that, and I don't care. These guys are unbelievable.

So the new update has, again, done what they always seem to do:

1) Add new features, that nobody asked for, before old ones work properly.
2) Not fixed bugs and simple missing features that have been issues for years.
3) Changed the game under your feet.
4) Introduced new, dumb bugs that could have been caught in basic testing.
5) [ this list item is missing, but will be added in a future update, maybe ]
6) Bonus feature for myself: game doesn't even launch any more. Worked yesterday, now it just won't start. Nice, 10/10 guys.

And this is their final update? Not fixing egregious bugs, not implement dead-easy-to-code obvious features people have asked for for years, but adding more stuff, still not learning from past mistakes indicating that you shouldn't add new stuff to what's broken, but first fix the problems?

I regret ever buying this or gifting it to anyone, and I'll make sure to never purchase anything from this studio again and warn others to stay away. You had your chance for years now and you just don't learn.
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