Goodbye Avalanche.... SBi detected

[Dradiin]

Refuse to be associated to SBi and its come out Avalanche has adopted SBi. I lean more liberal in my choices in life, but i refuse to have some jack-hole company ruining the games i want to purchase, so i am voting with my wallet. Sadly i already purchased some of their games, but no more.

[zombygunner]

so the whole post is about politics then? lame, go someplace else maybe not a game forum to use as your political stepping stone its lazy.

[SnowGolum13]

So dumb this was the best game they had put out and now ive got little indi games with more players and growth. Guess its back to Fallout 3-NV-4(♥♥♥♥ 76) Vein, Mad Max and Dayz.

[Roop]

Bye.

[Mush]

Although i agree that SBi is toxic trash, i don't think it matters much for Generation Zero.

[Alkpaz]

Isn't the Developer and Publisher of this game called "Systemic Reaction"? Just because they use the Avalanche engine improved by Square Enix (formerly Squaresoft) (Just Cause). That is like trying to boycott Epic Games' engine Unreal Engine. Good luck, enjoy not playing any games at all. There was some hoopla a few months ago concerning Unity. I guess you can count all Unreal, Avalanche, and Unity games out of your playlist.

[Ciemmevu]

Hi, I'm not here to create problems with anyone, nor with those who are for or against sweet baby inc. I learned about sbi and sbi detected from this discussion and now I would like to understand.
First I'll tell you that the 400 or more hours that I spent on generation zero over the course of a few years, I liked it a lot, given the excellent support and development that the developers of this game have given and done, which is extremely rare to many years now.
Now I would like to understand (since in the group sbi took over it is not possible to open discussions), what are the characteristics, in the specific case of GZ, that distinguish it as a game in which sbi is involved, and I want to know precisely. because boycott or discriminate things "by hearsay" (either against or in favor of a thing) because only in the specific case sbi is involved, is not a valid reason and reason to do so. furthermore, perhaps where it is possible to do so, I would like to know what are the elements that distinguish the involvement of sbi in other video games or in general. Thank you

edit; because in all honesty, given the names of the sweet baby customers, the games you should play could be counted on the fingers of one hand...

[madpraxis]

Originally posted by Ciemmevu:

It honestly doesn't mean anything or matter in any way.
It's a consulting company.
Someone gives them money, gives them pile of data, and literally states "is there anything you can see that we can do/improve?"

Did Systemic Reaction do so? Yes.
Did they use anything or listen to anything that SBi said? Only they know.
Does it matter in any way at all? Nope.

The biggest, baddest problem with SBi is that some games were put out that were, to be honest, total crap. And they make a good scapegoat, so fans of the publishers/developers don't need to question why 'their' publishers/developers made a crap game.

[Ciemmevu]

Originally posted by madpraxis:

Originally posted by Ciemmevu:

It honestly doesn't mean anything or matter in any way.
It's a consulting company.
Someone gives them money, gives them pile of data, and literally states "is there anything you can see that we can do/improve?"

Did Systemic Reaction do so? Yes.
Did they use anything or listen to anything that SBi said? Only they know.
Does it matter in any way at all? Nope.

The biggest, baddest problem with SBi is that some games were put out that were, to be honest, total crap. And they make a good scapegoat, so fans of the publishers/developers don't need to question why 'their' publishers/developers made a crap game.

do you know that there are a lot of bad games that sbi isn't involved in, and that there are probably many more? Do you know that what one person may not like, another may like? do you know that valve is also involved with sbi and therefore those who support sbi detected should not play cs and should NOT use steam? do you know that there are a lot of people who get brainwashed as soon as someone creates hype on any topic? I don't think you responded with a valid argument, you are attackable from all sides

[Eventide]

I found madpraxis answer 'valid' - if any *opinion* can be called valid.

Ciemmevu writes "I want to know precisely" - in regards to the involvement of SBI with GZ.

Unless a GZ representative chooses to respond on this thread, the facts cannot be known. Any other post in this thread contains opinion and speculation.

Ciemmevu expands beyond GZ to ask: "I would like to know what are the elements that distinguish the involvement of sbi in other video games or in general."

That information would come from SBI directly: their website (which I have not looked at) should explain what they do.

[Ciemmevu]

so you are another one of those who does it regardless, and without knowing why and therefore without a valid reason. Well done!

edit: are you so sure you've never played a game from a software house that isn't involved with sbi? I say that you have played and maybe even many, as have all the others who are against and who will certainly play more.

[Sparkplug]

I have a Gay robot Who cares

[SniperGirl]

People get their feelings hurt way to easy and then some go looking for reasons to get their feelings hurt. And then they want everyone else to feel the same way...
I don't have a "crazy" emoji...so surprise is it.

[Queltis]

Originally posted by Zockopa:

What is SBI ? Thought is was State Bank of India....

A writing consultancy that specialises in story development.

[Emerald Child]

I kind of understand what the OP is talking about. As I was reading the OPs post, I was reminded of the last Saints Row game and how woke that was. It was pretty awful! But like everybody has already said, there's hardly any people in this game. So maybe nothing will change. I personally like it the way it is.

[turk0gamer]

Have played the game before and now tried a little bit, but this alien-eye-girl is talking and talking and talking... it never ends and disturbs my game flow and makes me angry!
I wished the walkie talkie will not be repaired but...