no 7.62mm ammo

[derMack]

I can't get 7.62mm ammo anymore. I have now destroyed many machines that should have 7.62mm ammunition with them. while looting i found out that they don't have 7.62mm ammunition with them anymore. I only get 9mm MP ammo and 270mm ammo instead. even military-class hunters don't have them with them anymore. Even with the robot corpses, there were no 7.62mm ammunition with them. I only found 44 ammo there. firebirds only carried 9mm MP ammo. even in the bunkers there is no longer a 7.62mm to be found. not even with the corpses of resistance fighters. they always had 7.62mm ammo with them, now they don't have any with them. The 7.62mm is the most important ammunition in the game, if you can't get it anymore, it's pointless to keep fighting.

[SniperGirl]

It has to be buggy for you because I always keep well stocked with 7.62 Cal rounds from destroyed machines. The FMJ I get the most and use them less than the AP rounds. I keep about 4000 AP rounds and about 2000 FMJ rounds in my locker that may need the dust blown off. There are areas in the regions you can destroy the machines and expect to collect a lot of rounds from the destroyed machines. Also can collect the type of weapons and attachments that use those rounds in the same areas.

Which you have played enough to know that...you need to send in a bug report if you have not already.

[ZX Horace]

Interesting that. I tend to log in, raid Boo for ammo (there's so many bodies and ammo boxes nearby) and go north hunting flying machines. Then stop by other northern churches where there's bodies (guaranteed good assault rifle ammo loot) and lots of high level bots about. I can get so much loot that every 2 hours I have to use my pack mule character to clear space in the plundra. That includes thousands of 7.62mm rounds.

I then thought for a change I'd carry the 5.56mm LMG, leaving behind my 7.62mm LMG to test the theory that you're more likely to get ammo for the main gun you're carrying. Incredibly I was finding the loot around Boo was now giving me 5.56mm instead of the larger calibre. People often say you're more likely to get loot for the weapon you're carrying, and it was as if one loot spot prioritises your main gun. This seemed to be the case as now 7.62 ammo would be the last ammo found in each loot location... If it appeared at all. A few hours of doing my usual big robot hunting and especially the flying machines and now I have an extra 20000+ rounds of 5.56mm. With enough of it to last for the rest of the game, I put that gun away, go back to my trusty Russian LMG to loot 7.62 rounds again and..... 5.56mm is still being looted as if it was priority one. Bizarre. I can find 7.62 but not like before. I don't know if they've tweaked the loot rate for the ammo, or something has broken, but weird how 5.56mm still shows up before the larger calibre. It's no big deal when a single flying machine or tank drops 800 rounds of a random ammo you can just recycle into one you need though.

[derMack]

I didn't have this problem before the last hotfix. I always got 100 to 300 rounds of 7.62mm. firebirds sometimes dropped up to 1000 rounds of 7.62mm VM. and after the hotfix I get nothing more. all machines are empty. only ammunition that I can not use. I'll probably go out again and see if I'm lucky and find the 7.62mm VM

[derMack]

as soon as i use guns from the european gun pack i no longer get 7.62mm ammo. this applies to the PM-71. I then switched back to the kvm/59. and the machines had 7.62mm ammunition with them again?! I switched to the PM-71 the day the hotfix came. a destroyed machine had dropped them and i equipped my character with them. maybe that was the reason why you didn't get 7.62mm afterwards???

[Talby]

Opposite for me, have over 10k rounds in storage so it is to the point I don't even pick up 7.62 any longer - keep looting you will find them...

[derMack]

I checked my theory again. If you have the kvm/59 with you, you get 7.62mm ammunition. if you have the PM-71 with you, you can no longer get 7.62mm ammunition. it seems to be a bug with the european weapon pack. and which prevents the looting of 7.62mm ammo.

[znurrad]

looks like the US-pack N60 is also affected. I seldomly get 7.62 unless i also have another 7.62weapon on me
*edit* hmm i'm actually finding some 7.62 anyways now.. like 61ammo of a fnixtank and 141 of a militank
lol 600 blue handgun ammo but no .44 ammo for my sidearm and only 100ish 7.62 from a firebird now.
Mili hunters also still gives 7.62.
Guess i'm wrong and the N60 aint affected.

[derMack]

Ah, there seems to be a bug with the DLC weapons that use 7.62mm ammo.

[DedZedNub]

I am getting 7.62 ammo to drop either online or offline after the latest patch and 4 hours of testing.

The overall amount seems about the same, but there have been SEEMINGLY some changes in HOW it drops. It seems to appear less often, but is more clustered. Specifically, it appears in larger volumes but less often on, for example, Prototype Hunters. I got many clusters of 60 plus ammo, 90 ammo, and even a couple of 120 ammo. But I got less often these drops, often getting none for 5-6 tries, then large drops like these.

Before this latest hotfix, I was getting 7.62 usually to appear on 3 times as many occurrences, whether on wrecks, kills, but usually in clusters of 5, 30ish, or up to 60, most of the time, especially on Hunters, and also about 3 times more often on Runners. It is less common in the various ammo chests, but again averages in larger clusters with 60 plus happening at least twice as much when it is a cluster.

So for me, 7.62 is basically a wash. When it gets rare, I am getting more .243 ammo as its substitute, more often than it usually substitutes for it. But for .242 the numbers per cluster are averaging smaller. Again, amounts to about the same total over time, for the 4 hours.

This was true in the Farmlands and the Archipelago. True looting placed wrecks and freshly killed wrecks.

So, yes, looting either reset to a new seed, which should not be my explanation because I logged out and restarted 6 times and alternated between 2 characters, after complete exits and restarts of Steam and Gen Zero, and also switching from Offline to Online at least 4 times.

I DID SWITCH weapons in hand whenever I got 4 unlikely in a row on purpose. I also used a Melee Weapon, or a set of Binocs, or a Bow, every time this did not work to seemingly reset my luck. Overall, didn't seem to matter too much, but mostly seemed that now it clusters -- so is less frequent to show up in any wreck or chest, but with larger number per occurrence.

[derMack]

Originally posted by DedZedNub:

I am getting 7.62 ammo to drop either online or offline after the latest patch and 4 hours of testing.

The overall amount seems about the same, but there have been SEEMINGLY some changes in HOW it drops. It seems to appear less often, but is more clustered. Specifically, it appears in larger volumes but less often on, for example, Prototype Hunters. I got many clusters of 60 plus ammo, 90 ammo, and even a couple of 120 ammo. But I got less often these drops, often getting none for 5-6 tries, then large drops like these.

Before this latest hotfix, I was getting 7.62 usually to appear on 3 times as many occurrences, whether on wrecks, kills, but usually in clusters of 5, 30ish, or up to 60, most of the time, especially on Hunters, and also about 3 times more often on Runners. It is less common in the various ammo chests, but again averages in larger clusters with 60 plus happening at least twice as much when it is a cluster.

So for me, 7.62 is basically a wash. When it gets rare, I am getting more .243 ammo as its substitute, more often than it usually substitutes for it. But for .242 the numbers per cluster are averaging smaller. Again, amounts to about the same total over time, for the 4 hours.

This was true in the Farmlands and the Archipelago. True looting placed wrecks and freshly killed wrecks.

So, yes, looting either reset to a new seed, which should not be my explanation because I logged out and restarted 6 times and alternated between 2 characters, after complete exits and restarts of Steam and Gen Zero, and also switching from Offline to Online at least 4 times.

I DID SWITCH weapons in hand whenever I got 4 unlikely in a row on purpose. I also used a Melee Weapon, or a set of Binocs, or a Bow, every time this did not work to seemingly reset my luck. Overall, didn't seem to matter too much, but mostly seemed that now it clusters -- so is less frequent to show up in any wreck or chest, but with larger number per occurrence.

I have now solved the problem by carrying a kvm/59 with me in addition to the PM-71. the PM-71 is used. so i carry the kvm/59 with me as ballast, so to speak. but! I get the necessary 7.62mm ammunition. this is particularly productive for firebirds of all classes. like military tanks and hunter. luch of the speznas class also drop 7.62mm. I was able to replenish my scarce stocks of 7.62mm ammunition in this way. what particularly strikes me. that I get a lot of 270 ammo. although I don't have the gun with me. the loot system is behaving a bit gaga at the moment. this should be improved again.

[SniperGirl]

I carry the AG 4 and KVM 59. But I have been carrying them as long as I looted the first ones. Only loot 7.62 when I need it or I will become to fat. Only other ammo I collect is the 9MM SMG and the .50 cal. 9MM can run low if I don't swap to the AG4 often enough.

[⭐SEA Sniper⭐]

I only carry PVG90 six stars and KVM59 5 and 6 stars and my 7.62 looting seems the as it was before. Maybe this bug does not affect all players, or maybe I have not noticed it since I don't play this game anymore as much as before.

[DedZedNub]

I just got last series of sessions my "paltry", 3 Crown Blue PVG90 ... so okay, I'm envious.

But, mine has never yet been fired, so there *sticks tongue out*, so I might get more on the used PVG90 mark ... who am I kidding.

Hliariously, I also have not ever had even a Blue KVM 59 drop, yet. But, you see, I'm an Independent Resistance Curmudgeon. The IRC is all about "... anything more than .32 Meuller, and you don't even know how to fight. I remember when you had to rub two adrenaline sticks together just to get one piece of plastic and a rubber band. We used the Plastic to store extra blood from our cuts, and the rubber band with any broken bones we had left from our left arm, in order to make a 1 Crown Grey Makeshift Sling in those days. AND WE LIKED IT. So don't tell me ... YADDA, Yadda, yadda."