Do enemies get stronger as the game goes on?

[Fenris]

For instance, I'm playing guerilla single player and it's pretty painful to take down some of the bigger bots. Like almost 300 - 400 7.62 rounds for some of the bigger bots. Do their status like hp and armor scale as I level up and get better weapons? Or will I be able to come back and kill these guys after I find some better weapons? Currently my rpg takes like 10 rockets to kill the larger ones and I'm wondering if they will continue to scale or if at some point I'll actually be able to kill them. danke

[Flybye]

Depends what your definition of big is. There are 4 classes of each robot. Apocalypse being the strongest ones. And 10 rockets barely even gets 1/8 of their life down.

[Cursed Hawkins]

Originally posted by Flybye:

Depends what your definition of big is. There are 4 classes of each robot. Apocalypse being the strongest ones. And 10 rockets barely even gets 1/8 of their life down.

Chances are OP's referring to the Tanks and Harvesters as those are the only enemies that can be classified as "big"

[Fenris]

Interesting, so they do have levels. Must be what the binoculars perk is for. This just got harder

[flick]

The tiers are (weakest to toughest):
Prototype / orange
Military / green
FNIX / black and red
Apocalypse / bluey green and yellow

Each tier is a little tougher than the one below, and they do start getting armour plates. Their toughness is independent from you and your level / skills or weapons.

What makes a difference for you is the tier of your weapons, your damage improvement skills in the skill tree, and where on the robot you're shooting it. The more sparks you get, the more damage you're doing, like a multiplier. Big blue sparks is best. When it stops sparking a lot, shoot it somewhere else. And yes, some robots take a lot of damage.
Additionally, the rockets are for groups of weaker robots. Don't bother using those on the big ones because that's not what they're for.

[Nake]

I'm at level 8 with an AK76 (2 crowns / lvl 2) and I kill just as fast as a level 30, I never died even playing with people of high level in supposedly difficult places. I kill the biggest robots with less than 100 shots (7.62 rounds), so I guess it's a glitch in your game

[AoD_lexandro]

Originally posted by ŊαКє:

I'm at level 8 with an AK76 (2 crowns / lvl 2) and I kill just as fast as a level 30, I never died even playing with people of high level in supposedly difficult places. I kill the biggest robots with less than 100 shots (7.62 rounds), so I guess it's a glitch in your game

It is only that easy on "Adventure" setting. "Skirmish" takes a serious amount ammo to take out a large unit. So much so I have drained off over 2000 7.62mm with an AG4 T3, after leaving the Archipelago region, and barely made any headway in to the main map.

[Fenris]

Originally posted by AoD_lexandro:

It is only that easy on "Adventure" setting. "Skirmish" takes a serious amount ammo to take out a large unit. So much so I have drained off over 2000 7.62mm with an AG4 T3, after leaving the Archipelago region, and barely made any headway in to the main map.

yea that's what i'm dealing with on guerilla. bright side is that the dlc while ramping things up a lot, also give good weapons and lots of nades/claymores so you end up super strong if you do them first

[Killertruth186]

Originally posted by AoD_lexandro:

Originally posted by ŊαКє:

I'm at level 8 with an AK76 (2 crowns / lvl 2) and I kill just as fast as a level 30, I never died even playing with people of high level in supposedly difficult places. I kill the biggest robots with less than 100 shots (7.62 rounds), so I guess it's a glitch in your game

It is only that easy on "Adventure" setting. "Skirmish" takes a serious amount ammo to take out a large unit. So much so I have drained off over 2000 7.62mm with an AG4 T3, after leaving the Archipelago region, and barely made any headway in to the main map.

That is true, and there's a reason why there's zones were made for. Although, the only difficult part for me is to get into scavenging places like Sniper tower that had no ladders to get into. And the only way to get on it is by parkour onto it.

[Nake]

Originally posted by AoD_lexandro:

Originally posted by ŊαКє:

I'm at level 8 with an AK76 (2 crowns / lvl 2) and I kill just as fast as a level 30, I never died even playing with people of high level in supposedly difficult places. I kill the biggest robots with less than 100 shots (7.62 rounds), so I guess it's a glitch in your game

It is only that easy on "Adventure" setting. "Skirmish" takes a serious amount ammo to take out a large unit. So much so I have drained off over 2000 7.62mm with an AG4 T3, after leaving the Archipelago region, and barely made any headway in to the main map.

But I play in Skirmish, with a level of difficulty according to the number of players and even so the enemies are relatively easy to kill, I have to leave the 7.62 ammunition because I already have more than 10,000 and I have no more space to store it. I guess when you shoot the weak points and you use EMP and flares it makes everything easier

I remember that a person entered my game and using an EMP he killed one of the big robots in just a few seconds, he told me that way he kills when he plays alone and it was really incredibly fast. He alone destroyed one of the big robots, not the one that appears in the game's photo, I mean the other one that has 4 legs. He crawled on the ground, got under him without being detected and in less than 5 seconds the robot was destroyed.

[AoD_lexandro]

Originally posted by ŊαКє:

Originally posted by AoD_lexandro:

It is only that easy on "Adventure" setting. "Skirmish" takes a serious amount ammo to take out a large unit. So much so I have drained off over 2000 7.62mm with an AG4 T3, after leaving the Archipelago region, and barely made any headway in to the main map.

I remember that a person entered my game and using an EMP he killed one of the big robots in just a few seconds, he told me that way he kills when he plays alone and it was really incredibly fast. He alone destroyed one of the big robots, not the one that appears in the game's photo, I mean the other one that has 4 legs. He crawled on the ground, got under him without being detected and in less than 5 seconds the robot was destroyed.

That is a relatively easy task, compared to trying to even get near one later in the game. With AP ammo, a tweaked out gun and "free" weak point hits on stunned enemies, it makes the game seem easy.

Try that in late game though and you will get turned in to mince meat before you get near it. And if you do managed to sneak up on it and blow it up, it's buddies then spam rockets at you from hidden positions and stun lock you in to oblivion. Or gas you. Or just 1-shot you with explosive ammo. Or chase you across the map for 40mins through dense woodland and buildings, because they all have IR or X-ray vision. All while setting you on fire and poisoning you with basic attacks, spamming ticks, and leaping at you from 20m to melee attack.

Apocalypse units are no joke.

[Nake]

Originally posted by AoD_lexandro:

Originally posted by ŊαКє:

I remember that a person entered my game and using an EMP he killed one of the big robots in just a few seconds, he told me that way he kills when he plays alone and it was really incredibly fast. He alone destroyed one of the big robots, not the one that appears in the game's photo, I mean the other one that has 4 legs. He crawled on the ground, got under him without being detected and in less than 5 seconds the robot was destroyed.

That is a relatively easy task, compared to trying to even get near one later in the game. With AP ammo, a tweaked out gun and "free" weak point hits on stunned enemies, it makes the game seem easy.

Try that in late game though and you will get turned in to mince meat before you get near it. And if you do managed to sneak up on it and blow it up, it's buddies then spam rockets at you from hidden positions and stun lock you in to oblivion. Or gas you. Or just 1-shot you with explosive ammo. Or chase you across the map for 40mins through dense woodland and buildings, because they all have IR or X-ray vision. All while setting you on fire and poisoning you with basic attacks, spamming ticks, and leaping at you from 20m to melee attack.

Apocalypse units are no joke.

Hahaha I haven't gotten to that point yet, it will be really fun to watch, I can't wait

BTW: Someone wants to play? I would like to see what the game is like in high difficulties and see those powerful enemies. I don't speak English, I'm using a translator, but I understand the basics.

[Killertruth186]

Originally posted by AoD_lexandro:

Originally posted by ŊαКє:

I remember that a person entered my game and using an EMP he killed one of the big robots in just a few seconds, he told me that way he kills when he plays alone and it was really incredibly fast. He alone destroyed one of the big robots, not the one that appears in the game's photo, I mean the other one that has 4 legs. He crawled on the ground, got under him without being detected and in less than 5 seconds the robot was destroyed.

That is a relatively easy task, compared to trying to even get near one later in the game. With AP ammo, a tweaked out gun and "free" weak point hits on stunned enemies, it makes the game seem easy.

Try that in late game though and you will get turned in to mince meat before you get near it. And if you do managed to sneak up on it and blow it up, it's buddies then spam rockets at you from hidden positions and stun lock you in to oblivion. Or gas you. Or just 1-shot you with explosive ammo. Or chase you across the map for 40mins through dense woodland and buildings, because they all have IR or X-ray vision. All while setting you on fire and poisoning you with basic attacks, spamming ticks, and leaping at you from 20m to melee attack.

Apocalypse units are no joke.

That is true.I had to respawn more than a dozen times in order to complete the last main mission on the dlc island.So, you are either supposed to be with a group or have really high level.

Also the poison shots does drain your health fast. And there's this one time I somehow clipped into a semi, which it protects from any and all damage from the outside. Until I had used a grenade to get myself out from the semi.