No Mod Support?

[hallow, dmitri!]

I was asking this, more or less, day 1 that I started playing anyways. Seems like a no go.

Edit: I mean this in the "moral" support sense, not "technical".

[e.bkapalka]

Most co-op games don’t have mod support. It complicates things. The game has issues enough as it is without people shoehorning content into it that was never meant to be there — maybe it’ll happen once the game is all tidied up and polished, but until then, I’d say there’s no chance

[hallow, dmitri!]

Not to try a post war here but "most" co-op games aren't also this broken. I was lucky and asked as a matter of "quality of life" issues. A lot of other people can barely even play the game with things like corrupted saves.

[Carni]

The devs don't have a problem with mods being created, but they won't help you do it

[JinxSwe]

Game has a few mods on Nexus
https://www.nexusmods.com/generationzero?tab=popular+%28all+time%29

[e.bkapalka]

Originally posted by rygarg:

Not to try a post war here but "most" co-op games aren't also this broken. I was lucky and asked as a matter of "quality of life" issues. A lot of other people can barely even play the game with things like corrupted saves.

So why then, knowing that, would it be a good idea to have mods? It’ll take a thing that needs work and throw every bug into question.

[<<CJ>>]

Trouble is though if you install a mod and then the dev does an update, your mod will probably stop working.

[❌️▶️👱]

Originally posted by <<CJ>>:

Trouble is though if you install a mod and then the dev does an update, your mod will probably stop working.

That's not a real problem. Modders update their mods, too if they stop working.

[gavtheman]

Quick question about that save game mod ... do you know if it can be used to go to a point that it saved and start from there?

I've had a crash after a lot of fighting and exploring around a large town, so when I start the game again it means I've got to go through it all again, I'd like to avoid that sometimes, I've had crashes before where i'm just about to complete a main mission, it's annoying that I can't go to a point just before the crash.

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Originally posted by gavtheman:

Quick question about that save game mod ... do you know if it can be used to go to a point that it saved and start from there?

The backup follows the game saving routine. It can only backup the last time you fast traveled to a safehouse, or the last time you interacted with your plundra (storage box). It does not backup time and location in-between those scenarios.

So what it really does is prevent corruption of the backup file, since it writes separate backup every time. It has been updated to version 1.1 but you'll need to wait for version 1.2 which should come out tomorrow.

It added a manual backup in addition to time-based backup but the option is not practical yet since you need to exit the game to make a manual backup.

I've had a crash after a lot of fighting and exploring around a large town, so when I start the game again it means I've got to go through it all again, I'd like to avoid that sometimes, I've had crashes before where i'm just about to complete a main mission, it's annoying that I can't go to a point just before the crash.

You are having a memory leak, you must install some sort of memory manager. I think this topic was discussed in a post about crashing or FPS problem.

In my case I use CleanMem free version so I need to manually clear memory and cache. The paid version can be set time-based cleaning.

[hallow, dmitri!]

Originally posted by e.bkapalka:

Originally posted by rygarg:

Not to try a post war here but "most" co-op games aren't also this broken. I was lucky and asked as a matter of "quality of life" issues. A lot of other people can barely even play the game with things like corrupted saves.

So why then, knowing that, would it be a good idea to have mods? It’ll take a thing that needs work and throw every bug into question.

Your reply makes no sense. Is this a machine English translation perhaps?

[e.bkapalka]

Originally posted by rygarg:

Originally posted by e.bkapalka:

So why then, knowing that, would it be a good idea to have mods? It’ll take a thing that needs work and throw every bug into question.

Your reply makes no sense. Is this a machine English translation perhaps?

You can check through my 300+ pages of comments if you’d like some examples of my writing style. English is my first language although I’ve always sucked in English class. Let me rephrase — If the game is broken, why would they go through the extra effort to add support for mods? They have tons of other things to work on. Adding that would just introduce another point of failure, which is fine for a game that’s very robust and stable on its own, but not one that needs this much TLC

[hallow, dmitri!]

No thanks, I'll take your word for it. I do understand now however. My question is probably to blame then. I just mean they don't look like they want anyone modding their game and refuse to support it on this steam board. I didn't mean "support" as in technical support, but more like moral support for those that want to mod it as a temporary fix for whatever the devs are refusing or unable to fix. A lot of these bigger bugs are very long-standing and some people don't like to see new DLC released before these older bugs are fixed. I hope that clears up my question.

[❌️▶️👱]

My post on mods was deleted recently, and of course the moderators acted according to their privileges.

However, it would been more helpful and productive had they explained the violations.

Here are their rules:

Board Rules

Advertisement of 3rd party websites, sales, etc. without the previous approval of the Community Manager (Avalanche_Graham) are not permitted.

My questions

Mods are free which nexusmods are offering, are they still considered advertisement?

Rules and Guidelines For Steam: Discussions, Reviews, and User Generated Content

Content Rules

Do not post any content on Steam containing the following:

Porn, inappropriate or offensive content, warez or leaked content or anything else not safe for work
Discussion of piracy including, but not limited to:
Cracks
Key generators
Console emulators
Cheating, hacking, game exploits

My questions

Do mods fall under Cracks, Cheating, Hacking, Game Exploits? I ask because I think (correct me if I am wrong) modding is encouraged in Steam Workshop and thousands of mods are offered free and paid (not specifically for GZ but for some other games)

[e.bkapalka]

Originally posted by 😡🤢😍⠀kalye_amio:

My post on mods was deleted recently, and of course the moderators acted according to their privileges.

However, it would been more helpful and productive had they explained the violations.

Here are their rules:

Board Rules

Advertisement of 3rd party websites, sales, etc. without the previous approval of the Community Manager (Avalanche_Graham) are not permitted.

My questions

Mods are free which nexusmods are offering, are they still considered advertisement?

Rules and Guidelines For Steam: Discussions, Reviews, and User Generated Content

Content Rules

Do not post any content on Steam containing the following:

Porn, inappropriate or offensive content, warez or leaked content or anything else not safe for work
Discussion of piracy including, but not limited to:
Cracks
Key generators
Console emulators
Cheating, hacking, game exploits

My questions

Do mods fall under Cracks, Cheating, Hacking, Game Exploits? I ask because I think (correct me if I am wrong) modding is encouraged in Steam Workshop and thousands of mods are offered free and paid (not specifically for GZ but for some other games)

You’re completely allowed to discuss and promote mods on every other Steam forum I’ve been on, I don’t see why this one would be any different. It’s not like you’re discussing making aimbots for TF2 or hacking in an MMO or anything like that. Were you given a specific reason it was removed? I can imagine a heated or rude discussion stemming from a conversation about mods might get removed, but not for discussing their mere existence

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Originally posted by e.bkapalka:

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You’re completely allowed to discuss and promote mods on every other Steam forum I’ve been on, I don’t see why this one would be any different. It’s not like you’re discussing making aimbots for TF2 or hacking in an MMO or anything like that. Were you given a specific reason it was removed? I can imagine a heated or rude discussion stemming from a conversation about mods might get removed, but not for discussing their mere existence

No warning. No explanation. No hint as to the violation. Just deleted.