Vehicles: Yay or nay?

[Televerket]

Hey, people.

I'd just like to ask who thinks that Generation Zero would benefit from vehicles. Please discuss pros, cons and how you'd like to see it implemented.

Personally I'm all for it. The game world is really expansive, the scale of distances between towns is quite realistic.

I wouldn't allow players to take just any vehicle standing in the game world, but instead I'd have some sort of garage location where there's a delapidated vehicle. You get a side quest where you have to get parts to get it to run. Just as a means of turning the vehicle into a reward.
And there could be a range of vehicles. Everything from a slow EPA-tractor to a CV90. Of course, all vehicles would be built around carrying multiple players at a time to encourage cooperation.

[♂TheBlasterMaster™✞]

100% no for many reasons. The dev's have said no for many reasons.

[Somtaaw's Finest]

Machines can detect sound. The engine would draw them immediately. You would have to stay in the car indefinitely.

[Elegant Caveman]

Originally posted by Thursday Mettle:

You would have to stay in the car indefinitely.

Considering how many destroyed & burned up cars we keep finding all over the place, I really don't think that "staying in the car" would be a safe option.

[Mud]

I see a lot of bicycles ...... why not?

[TreeTrunk]

Originally posted by Elegant Caveman:

Originally posted by Thursday Mettle:

You would have to stay in the car indefinitely.

Considering how many destroyed & burned up cars we keep finding all over the place, I really don't think that "staying in the car" would be a safe option.

No S**t man. This event needs to really happen to purge our society of these oxygen stealers. I'd entertain myself by watching idiots from my shelter as they do dumb s**t like start a vehicle during a machine apocalypse.

[Elegant Caveman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed5Bh_DbHPU

[Karunashi]

I remember seeing in some of those movies where all electronics/etc are kind of useless and there was those older cars that didn't have any electronic reliance for its normal operations (so maybe something really rare).

While the world is big, I'm sure this is probably not going to fit into the game because of many reasons. Some I can think of are stuff like Ai behavior (they seem to fire and are usually easy to dodge, can't see how a faster moving vehicle will make it any harder for the gamers). Also a lot of uneven grounds and debris/wreckage on the paved roads, so it would be more of a hassle.

If they do bikes, I'm unsure how smooth the map is, but I feel like we'll have a lot of funny physics issues on those uneven terrain.

[Johnny Hazard]

The Swedish Military bicycle M/42 would be an great addition!
It's green, has no gears (it's a mono gear as the kids say), rolls easy on it ballon tires, heavy and nearly indestructable! It was a cheap way for a army of nearly 800k conscript soldiers to transport them self. Well, some of us had other means to get around, but for the infantry, that thing was what they got.

[Televerket]

Originally posted by Thursday Mettle:

Machines can detect sound. The engine would draw them immediately. You would have to stay in the car indefinitely.

The point of a car is that it's quick. If you can RUN away from enemies, you should be able to drive away from them.

Plus, who said there should only be cars?

[Sir Puff The Enraged]

No i think it would ruin the games atmosphere. It would make running away from fights trivial and i doubt the ai would be up to the challenge to handle vehicles. That and safe houses are all over the place already.

[♂TheBlasterMaster™✞]

Maybe you should play Rage.

[Johnny Hazard]

Originally posted by TheMasterBlaster™:

Maybe you should play Rage.

Why? This is a discussion about things players would want to see in a game they like, we all know it's just wishes and not demands.

They even mention bicycles on the stream today, so who knows what they will add ones the game is stable.

I think you need to chill, mate, and smell the roses!

[♂TheBlasterMaster™✞]

It's very clear this game was not designed for fast travel. The whole point of the game is walking through the woods to get to the next action area. The developers have already said no vehicles. Too much in the game would be missed.

[Televerket]

Originally posted by TheMasterBlaster™:

It's very clear this game was not designed for fast travel. The whole point of the game is walking through the woods to get to the next action area. The developers have already said no vehicles. Too much in the game would be missed.

If you had read my initial post, you would've understood that I don't mean a GTA-style "take any car you see", but instead offer it as a reward once you've already explored large parts of the map. Thus, you wouldn't really miss anything through such an implementation.

Many have also perceived the long distances between interresting places as something negative. Vehicles such as bicycles, EPA-tractors, an army off-roader or even a basic APC could solve this.

[Electric Serge]

Generally speaking? No, but a few caveats...

Slow vehicles could work. A Hägglunds BV 206 as a playable vehicle could work without ruining the atmosphere:

https://i.imgur.com/1FvIwQW.jpg

Slow, loud and lacking armour but it's amphibious. Handy if the surrounding islands are intended for DLC.Have it come with a leak to prevent you from going places you're not supposed to.

EPA tractors as OP mentioned have a top speed of 30 km/h if you redline it. They were mostly unregulated and driven by kids, so straight pipes were very common.

Both of these vehicles are ridiculously loud and would alert any machine within a significant radius, and you would have little chance of outrunning anything but a tick. Their status as vehicular icons in Sweden would fit the overall theme of the game IMO.

Bicycles could work if implemented correctly. You're easier to spot and running over obstacles at speed makes you fall over and lose health, and unless you stick to the roads they'd be so slow that you're better off by foot anyway.

My headcanon is that, since the machines seem so interested in fuel, they drain every vehicle they come across and that's why you can't drive in the first place.