Final DLC

[CLM7557]

Since it seems the cow has been milked to the end(I enjoyed it) what is your ideal roster to finish the game? Any birds? Or just SA animals?

[jeremywyx]

i am new to PZ but i woud like to see an moutian/highland pack with some underrated aniamls and plants:

animals:
- the scotish wild cat
- the kamzik ( national animal of slovakia halfway writeing this i releised its the bear)
- the moutian goat (not a real goat)
- tibetan fox
- chinchila

plants:
- Pasqueflower
- Drias (probably speled with a Y)
- Deodar tree
- and a plant taht we in slovakia call "kosodrevina" wich are just a devolves cold resistand version many coniferouse trees on the timber line

[Tonkan]

I hope the last one will be a primate pack.

[audiolady]

I'm agreeing with Tonks on a lot of them. Any small, big eyed mammal/primate works for me. Isn't polecat another way of saying skunk? As in-singing-Wake up Jacob, turn on the light. Have you ever seen a man and a polecat fight? Wake up, Jacob, let me in!

[Harbinger]

It seems to me that most of these content creators don't know the difference between Fiscal Years and calendar years. FY24 is the period of June 1st 2023 - May 31st 2024. It does not extend to the end of the calendar year so obvious there can only be one further DLC within that period seeing as their second DLC of a calendar year tends to drop in June which would be within the next fiscal year (FY25).

They also tend to have minimal (if any) knowledge of other games that have not yet been ported so assume Planet Zoo is the only thing it could be. Although Frontier have been winding down Frontier Foundry for several months now they pledged to continue any ongoing plans to the end of the current fiscal year at the time of the original announcement and The Great War: Western Front has yet to be ported to consoles.

Planet Zoo is still bringing in good revenues as a PC only title and porting would likely require many months of code freeze on PC in order to do, something that has not yet happened.

I personally predict 3 DLC this calendar year, then a final anniversary update (around the same time the first of 3 games (Planet Coaster 2?) is dropping) and only then will they initiate a code freeze to work on the console version to be delivered at some point before the end of May 2025 (end of FY25).

The second game (ETA November 2025) would then make sense to be Planet Zoo 2, only a year behind my theoretical cessation of development of the original on PC.

Anyway there's a Frontier Livestream[forums.frontier.co.uk] this coming Wednesday at 18:00 GMT that is set to reveal at least some of these answers so it'll be interesting to see who's correct.

[AdahnGorion]

Publicado originalmente por Harbinger:

It seems to me that most of these content creators don't know the difference between Fiscal Years and calendar years. FY24 is the period of June 1st 2023 - May 31st 2024. It does not extend to the end of the calendar year so obvious there can only be one further DLC within that period seeing as their second DLC of a calendar year tends to drop in June which would be within the next fiscal year (FY25).

They also tend to have minimal (if any) knowledge of other games that have not yet been ported so assume Planet Zoo is the only thing it could be. Although Frontier have been winding down Frontier Foundry for several months now they pledged to continue any ongoing plans to the end of the current fiscal year at the time of the original announcement and The Great War: Western Front has yet to be ported to consoles.

Planet Zoo is still bringing in good revenues as a PC only title and porting would likely require many months of code freeze on PC in order to do, something that has not yet happened.

I personally predict 3 DLC this calendar year, then a final anniversary update (around the same time the first of 3 games (Planet Coaster 2?) is dropping) and only then will they initiate a code freeze to work on the console version to be delivered at some point before the end of May 2025 (end of FY25).

The second game (ETA November 2025) would then make sense to be Planet Zoo 2, only a year behind my theoretical cessation of development of the original on PC.

Anyway there's a Frontier Livestream[forums.frontier.co.uk] this coming Wednesday at 18:00 GMT that is set to reveal at least some of these answers so it'll be interesting to see who's correct.

It would make no sense at all to release both Planet Coaster 2 and Planet Zoo 2 within such a short timespand of eachother, since they would compete against eachother.

[Harbinger]

Publicado originalmente por AdahnGorion:

It would make no sense at all to release both Planet Coaster 2 and Planet Zoo 2 within such a short timespand of eachother, since they would compete against eachother.

One year between each game launch isn't a short timespan.

[AdahnGorion]

Publicado originalmente por Harbinger:

Publicado originalmente por AdahnGorion:

It would make no sense at all to release both Planet Coaster 2 and Planet Zoo 2 within such a short timespand of eachother, since they would compete against eachother.

One year between launches isn't a particularly short timespan.

I think it is.
Mainly because the games are long enduring simulators/creative builders.

Planet Coaster released in 2016 and Planet Zoo in 2019. That timeframe is decent tbh.
But the instant Planet Zoo was out, I left Planet Coaster for good, not because I like zoo better than themeparks, but because of advances made in the game and because I can´t consentrate on both, atleast not for long term.

That being said, I understand that some will stick to one or the other due to the them. I still think 1 year is to fast in relation to eachother.

[Harbinger]

The problem is you're only comparing two games, if you also throw the two Jurassic World Evolution games into the mix there have been at least two of Frontier's content management simulation games competing with each other for (essentially) the same customers with regards to DLC since mid 2018.

Frontier's stated strategy from here on out is to go all in on these type of games and they'll be releasing one every year alongside their current commitments (2 more annual games) to the F1 Manager license. If they can't turn things round with the F1 Manager franchise by the time their current contract expires then they'll likely double down on these type of games, delivering one every 6 months by FY27 (June 1st 2026 - May 31st 2027).

They may well saturate the market at that point but one per year should be sustainable.

[AdahnGorion]

Publicado originalmente por Harbinger:

The problem is you're only comparing two games, if you also throw the two Jurassic World Evolution games into the mix there have been at least two of Frontier's content management simulation games competing with each other for (essentially) the same customers with regards to DLC since mid 2018.

Frontier's stated strategy from here on out is to go all in on these type of games and they'll be releasing one every year alongside their current commitments (2 more annual games) to the F1 Manager license. If they can't turn things round with the F1 Manager franchise by the time their current contract expires then they'll likely double down on these type of games, delivering one every 6 months by FY27 (June 1st 2026 - May 31st 2027).

They may well saturate the market at that point but one per year should be sustainable.

JWE is not really in the same series and not even same genre.
So they can´t really be taken into consideration in my opnion.
I know the strategy, only time will tell if its a good idea to focus on releasing many titles spread yout or having a few that can sell well with dlcs.

[grampers62]

Business strategy is an ever evolving thing that has no preset guidelines and can change quite rapidly depending on market sales. One simply can not assume anything in the long term other than an approximation of announced strategies. So we wait and see what happens on that front while we fiddle with what we have in the now.

But I do wonder if we are seeing testing for the next sim type game in Planet Zoo additions...

[Tonks]

Publicado originalmente por audiolady:

I'm agreeing with Tonks on a lot of them. Any small, big eyed mammal/primate works for me. Isn't polecat another way of saying skunk? As in-singing-Wake up Jacob, turn on the light. Have you ever seen a man and a polecat fight? Wake up, Jacob, let me in!

I'm not familiar with the song, but I'd like to be clear that a polecat is not the same as a skunk - polecats are the 'wild version' of ferrets - in the same family as stoats and weasels and mink: long, bendy, fearless and fluffy.

[SLG]

Polecat is a common name for several mustelid species in the order Carnivora and subfamilies Ictonychinae and Mustelinae. Polecats do not form a single taxonomic rank (i.e. clade). The name is applied to several species with broad similarities to European polecats, such as having a dark mask-like marking across the face.

In the United States, the term polecat is sometimes applied to the black-footed ferret, a native member of the Mustelinae. In Southern United States dialect, the term polecat is sometimes used as a colloquial nickname for the skunk, which is part of the family Mephitidae.

Despite their common name, polecats are more closely related to dogs than to cats.

[Jack Greedy]

Yeah but please FRONTIER keep adding dlcs i will buy them all. Maybe birds series next?

[Ben]

I'd love to see polecats or weasels/stoats. The game is kinda lacking in the small mammals department.

Birds would be great too (flying ones), but it would require a lot more work than the regular dlcs (that already cost 10 euros), so I'm pretty sure it won't happen...

And now that the resurrection of dodos, mammoths and thylacins are being discussed... Could the introduction of extinct animals be a thing ?

[SLG]

If were there are flying birds in the last DLC, I would guess they will be exhibit (walk-through) animals. Exactly we already have flying habitat birds (swan and flamingo). They just do not fly to often and very high.