Timber Wolves will not breed; perpetually stuck as betas

[SneakyFox]

New bug as of 1.10.

A pack of 3 Timber Wolves with 1 male and 2 females will not breed as the male is perpetually listed as a beta.

To test this:
1. Start a new Sandbox Zoo
2. Place a Trade Center
3. Create a habitat enclosure for Timber Wolves
4. Purchase 1 Male Timber Wolf and 2 Female Timber Wolves
5. Move all 3 Timber Wolves to the enclosure
6. Let them settle in
7. Click on the Male Timber Wolf and go to the "Social Welfare" tab
Current mate will be listed as "Unable to have mates as a beta animal", but as the only male in the enclosure they'll never become and alpha.

I've only tested this with Timber Wolves so far, but GG, as it now means none of my Timber Wolves will produce Wolf pups.

[FoxTrot101]

Had this problem with the male lions a while ago. Someone told me that you have to turn on animal fighting in order for them to establish a dominant pair. Best thing to do is box other animals that might be overpopulated to keep them from injuring one another and turn the fighting mode on.

[Evelyn]

Alright, so I'm having the exact same problem but with African Wild Dogs. I am in Franchise mode however, so I cannot change fighting. I initially had put all four into the same enclosure, thinking that they would fight it out for alpha and beta status. How wrong I was... I ended up making another enclosure and putting one female and one male into the new enclosure. (Making two breeding pairs.) All four animals are still marked as betas. Is there some way to fix this? These are literally the first animals I have bought in this zoo.

[SneakyFox]

Cheers for the update regarding the AWD; it looks like it affects all of the Canine species that they made the pack structure changes to in the patch.

This isn't affected by the fighting mode as there's no other males in the habitat for them to fight, and as Evelyn posted it also occurs in Franchise mode.

Guess no Timber Wolf or AWD pups for us until this is fixed :(

[MessiahofMelons]

Submit this on frontiers issue tracker website. The devs dont checl here

[SneakyFox]

Already present on their issue tracker. If anyone else is experiencing it then it would be good for them to login and mark that they can reproduce it with some information:
https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/11238
(I added my encounter with the issue as a confirmation last night).

I'm hoping that someone here finds a work-around.

[banjobindlestuff]

has this been fixed at all? i pretty much stopped playing because i got frustrated over no wolf babies

[XrystalBelle]

It looks to be connected to their changes to the dog pack mechanics.

I found if I took the *beta* animals that had been *alpha* before out and then back in again it fixes them. This only seemed to be a problem with existing animals that were accessed after the changed patch went live. Any new animals growing up would gain alpha status only if they were the eldest of that sex.

In other words, the eldest female and eldest male will become alphas. If they don't, take them out and put them back and it should fix it. This way you can also force a particular pair to breed, by removing those older that you don't want to breed.

I haven't played with my dog breeds in a while but the above corrected the issue on the day the patch went live.

[Krall]

Originally posted by XrystalBelle:

It looks to be connected to their changes to the dog pack mechanics.

I found if I took the *beta* animals that had been *alpha* before out and then back in again it fixes them. This only seemed to be a problem with existing animals that were accessed after the changed patch went live. Any new animals growing up would gain alpha status only if they were the eldest of that sex.

In other words, the eldest female and eldest male will become alphas. If they don't, take them out and put them back and it should fix it. This way you can also force a particular pair to breed, by removing those older that you don't want to breed.

I haven't played with my dog breeds in a while but the above corrected the issue on the day the patch went live.

That works for me with the African wild dogs. It doesn't reset their status right away, but after a few mins it does.