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banjobindlestuff Dec 20, 2019 @ 1:00pm
water temperature
is there any way to alter water temperature? if you have a solution please take a screenshot of your heaters/coolers working.
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XrystalBelle Dec 20, 2019 @ 1:30pm 
I would assume that any area around heaters/coolers work similarly. Bear in mind that it isn't really a mass of water but a visual effect. Putting the cooler/heater on the base of the water ( the land area ) will warm/cool that immediate area. Putting the cooler/heater on something near the surface of the water should do the same there. But thats just a theory. I rarely use terrain water and when I do it is in areas that the temperature doesn't need to change so no heaters or coolers in use.
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banjobindlestuff Dec 20, 2019 @ 1:33pm 
the temperature of water is directly correlated to the ambient temperature in the zoo. devices placed on, in, or around the water do not change water temperature. I have tried to place devices in all orientations to no avail. I saw some people in the discussions saying that they CAN change the water temp, but none have posted screenshots or detailed information. :<
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Razamanaz Dec 20, 2019 @ 2:43pm 
Place the heater on the surface of the water. If it's under water it's just like a heater being under the ground and won't show on the heat map but on the surface it will heat the water "area" just like on the ground.
Last edited by Razamanaz; Dec 20, 2019 @ 3:01pm
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banjobindlestuff Dec 20, 2019 @ 3:29pm 
Please post a screenshot, I have seen your comments on other threads but I can't seem to get it to work.
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XrystalBelle Dec 20, 2019 @ 4:02pm 
Hmm, you're right .. this was not what I was expecting graphically so I can only assume that the game is coded to have water set to a specific temperature zone for each park or biome with no heating/cooling affecting it.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1941651127

The question is however, whether putting a heater next to a pond in the real world would heat the water up ? Maybe the devs used that point in their considerations.
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banjobindlestuff Dec 20, 2019 @ 4:05pm 
Yeah I mean in a park it would be at the same temp as wherever the water is being treated + ambient temperature. But in zoos and aquariums there are systems in place to control water temperature. I wish frontier would fix this :<
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Nova Dec 20, 2019 @ 4:19pm 
Originally posted by XrystalBelle:
Hmm, you're right .. this was not what I was expecting graphically so I can only assume that the game is coded to have water set to a specific temperature zone for each park or biome with no heating/cooling affecting it.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1941651127

The question is however, whether putting a heater next to a pond in the real world would heat the water up ? Maybe the devs used that point in their considerations.
Not really, takes extreme weather to change the temperature of large bodies of water as the earth is a fairly consistent temperature. At about 1m down the temperature becomes pretty consistent of around 15c, its actually a ecofriendly way to cool your house.
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Razamanaz Dec 20, 2019 @ 5:03pm 
It appears they may have patched this as my heaters wouldn't work under water previously so I have some ugly heaters on the water surface in some zoos. I'm glad I tried it though because I can go back and put them on the bottom now.

Just above the water. Heater on bottom.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1941672291

Just below the water. Heater still on bottom.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1941672359

It stands to reason that if the ground below the water is hot than the water above will be hot also. Still, water is going to look like water regardless of the temperature. (With the exception of ice of coarse.)
In the end I think @XrystalBelle hit the nail on the head that water is just aesthetic and has no physical properties. Heat is just another 2D area of effect the same as cameras, educational items, etc..
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banjobindlestuff Dec 20, 2019 @ 5:09pm 
Hm. I can't get it to work with that placement. The issue is not aesthetic, but rather the negative effect it has on animals who like to swim.
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Razamanaz Dec 20, 2019 @ 5:14pm 
Originally posted by banjobindlestuff:
Hm. I can't get it to work with that placement. The issue is not aesthetic, but rather the negative effect it has on animals who like to swim.
What negative effect are they getting? i.e. What stat is it affecting?
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banjobindlestuff Dec 20, 2019 @ 5:20pm 
Habitat temperature. The temperature of the water is outside of the acceptable temperature range of the animals. Animal welfare drops if too much time is spent in the water. The stat is not based on the temperature range within the habitat but rather the temperature of the animal at any given moment (their bodies are colored on the heat map, same as the humans.)
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Razamanaz Dec 20, 2019 @ 6:18pm 
I got tired of waiting for snow so I changed this to a cooler rather than a heater. (Same concept) Maybe this wasn't patched but rather a glitch that some users have. (like I used to have.) This is how I used to have to place my heaters/coolers.
Heat map.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1941727445
Same picture without the heat map.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1941727475
I'm pretty sure there is no such thing as water temperature but certainly has to do with habitat temperature. Try placing it at the surface like this.

EDIT: Make sure your heater/cooler is turned on and has electricity.
Last edited by Razamanaz; Dec 20, 2019 @ 6:21pm
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XrystalBelle Dec 20, 2019 @ 9:19pm 
Hmm Raz, what does the temperature view show from a top down view ?

Just tried again with two opposing views with heaters to get warm and coolers to get cool and both seem to ignore the water area with it being always blue in tundra and always orange in desert.

Based on Nova's quite reasonable explanation that the depth matters I deliberately used shallower and smaller bodies of water so that depth wasn't an issue.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1941836901
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1941835220
Last edited by XrystalBelle; Dec 20, 2019 @ 9:21pm
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Nova Dec 20, 2019 @ 9:39pm 
Originally posted by XrystalBelle:
Hmm Raz, what does the temperature view show from a top down view ?

Just tried again with two opposing views with heaters to get warm and coolers to get cool and both seem to ignore the water area with it being always blue in tundra and always orange in desert.

Based on Nova's quite reasonable explanation that the depth matters I deliberately used shallower and smaller bodies of water so that depth wasn't an issue.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1941836901
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1941835220

My explanation was about IRL, in the game I don't think water temperature matters. I've never seen an animal complain about temps while in water, hippos while snowing for example. I think the game does on land hot/cold or just in water. I don't have the DLC so maybe polar bears changes this?
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Razamanaz Dec 20, 2019 @ 10:01pm 
I still think it's a 2D representation of an area of effect. Sand in the desert terrain making the water look orange from the top rather than the heat effect. Have you tried putting grass or something on the bottom of the desert ponds? The fading of the heat/cooling effects to the outer edges just as it does on flat ground tells me this is so.

I'm not trying to start a fight. It's kind of interesting to explore actually. I'll try again tomorrow when I have more time. Deep compared to shallow in different biomes and that sort of thing.

When I say 2D I guess I really mean a cylinder. Z axis doesn't matter so imagine a cylinder going from below ground to sky. Have you tried placing a heater 100m in the sky to see if it heats the ground? I bet it does although I haven't tried it yet.

Anyway, you all have a good night/day/afternoon/morning or whatever it is in your time zone.
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