Invisible Barriers not working?

[DemonServer]

I have an enclosure where invisible barriers are present however the game doesn't count them as a part of the habitat so the animal crosses the area and then everyone panics. Any suggestions on how to add the invisible barrier to the habitat so the game knows that they aren't escaping?

[morph113]

Can you send a screenshot? But you do understand that you need some kind of barrier, right? The invisible barrier is used if you for example have animals in a pen at a lower elevation or surrounded by water, like if the terrain is made that way that they cannot escape by default. If your animals are escaping from your habitat that has invisible barriers, then you must have not put any terrain barriers in place.

[DemonServer]

My terrain is fine, they are in a lowered area and they have a cave but the cave is outside their initial barrier but the cave has no actual way of escaping. (Cave is carved out from the walls of the lowered terrain but the walls dont surround said cave even though theres no way out from it)

[Delta-9]

If you're talking about the "Null" barrier. Im pretty sure its just used to make a template for any other contruction type you want to make it out of. You start with the null barrier, and design your barrier. Put in bends, and shape it. Then, when you have it like you want, you select it all, and choose what type you want it made out of. Wood logs, concrete, shrub, etc.

[morph113]

Well if there is no way out then surely they cannot escape? Also what do you mean with that the game doesn't count the invisible barriers as part of the habitat? I mean the barriers are what makes the game define it as habitat in first place. If the game wouldn't recognize the invisible barriers then it wouldn't even count as habitat. Are you sure there is no way out of the habitat for the animals? The entrance is properly secured? Have you seen animals escaping and where they escape, maybe climbing?

If you just got an alarm and can't find the animal, maybe it's glitched below the surface. I had a case recently where due to a glitch an ape somehow ended up like 20 meter below the surface and the game counted it as escaped animal.

[DemonServer]

There is a normal barrier completely surrounding the habitat like a full brick wall. No open spaces. BUT I have an underground section of the habitat ( a cave) that goes under the preplaced walls and whenever the animal goes under the wall (even though he has no way to escape) it counts it as escaping.

[morph113]

Originally posted by Delta-9:

If you're talking about the "Null" barrier. Im pretty sure its just used to make a template for any other contruction type you want to make it out of. You start with the null barrier, and design your barrier. Put in bends, and shape it. Then, when you have it like you want, you select it all, and choose what type you want it made out of. Wood logs, concrete, shrub, etc.

While you can certainly do that, it's actually meant as an invisible barrier if you have terrain that already acts as a barrier. Like water for animals that can't swim or lowered ground etc. in which case you don't need an actual wall barrier, so you place invisible barriers that the game can recognize that this is supposed to be a habitat. Like here I use invisible barriers in a pit for aligators: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1909530358

Originally posted by DemonServer:

There is a normal barrier completely surrounding the habitat like a full brick wall. No open spaces. BUT I have an underground section of the habitat ( a cave) that goes under the preplaced walls and whenever the animal goes under the wall (even though he has no way to escape) it counts it as escaping.

I think we might need screenshots. I have a hard time trying to visualize what you mean.

[DemonServer]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1909533611

[morph113]

Originally posted by DemonServer:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1909533611

And where is the invisible barrier? This is a bit confusing, so did you actually put a habitat inside another habitat? So at normal surface level you have brick walls and a habitat entance, which makes the game count everything inside as a habitat. Then you have built a separate habitat consisting of invisible walls inside this habitat? Can we see the entrance to that? Because sure it must have an entrance for your keepers to be able to go inside and it also needs an entrance to count as habitat in the first place. Btw. why do you even need invisible barriers if you already have barriers at the top?

[DemonServer]

It’s not a second habitat, I added those invisible barriers because the open space below goes under the surface level bring walls and when the animal passes the walls underneath they are counted as escaping. But the Invisivle barriers don’t change it.

[Zeesha]

You need to lower walls attached to the main wall into the ground. Then you'll be fine. Brick will do it. I think it's on the 2nd tab.

Edit to add: The lowered walls need to surround your underground cave. I did kinda the same thing in beta where I had an underground passage to an above ground cave on the other side of the guest ground level path walkway. Had glass on either side of the path. Daylight one side and cave on the other side for my lions sleeping place.

[morph113]

Ah now I understand. Yeah unfortunately it doesn't work this way. First of all, your actual habitat barriers are the barriers at surface level that surround the habitat. It seems the game counts your animals as escaped once they pass the boundaries of the habitat, even if it is at a sub-surface level from where they cannot escape.

Null barriers won't really help with that and null barriers also don't physically stop animals from escaping, that's not what they are for. Can you maybe post a screenshot of the null barriers you placed? Because I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve with null barriers here. Did you place an entire habitat of null barriers inside?

[DemonServer]

Its similar to your image you sent with the crocodiles. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1909545704

[Moving Target]

That looks to me like the null barrier is not part of the actual habitat, if the habitat is an area surrounded by the brick walls and the null barrier is just surrounding the cave then the cave is actually OUTSIDE the habitat and the null barriers do nothing. You need to move the area of the cave so it is within the main walled habitat or extend the brick wall to include the cave area.

[Wild Arms]

Originally posted by DemonServer:

There is a normal barrier completely surrounding the habitat like a full brick wall. No open spaces. BUT I have an underground section of the habitat ( a cave) that goes under the preplaced walls and whenever the animal goes under the wall (even though he has no way to escape) it counts it as escaping.

no part of the walkable part of the exhibit can go beyond the border of the barrier. It doesnt matter if there is an exit or not the game does not see it like that. If they can physically get beyond the barrier somehow even if they are trapped it counts as them escaping. you need to make the tunnel not go beyond the wall, and the issue will be solved. adding extra null barriers does nothing if they are not apart of the main barrier.

[morph113]

So do the invisible barriers have an entrance as well? Like is it a full enclosure with entrance? Again, invisible barriers aren't used to actually stop animals. My enclosure for crocodiles looks like this with the entrance. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1909550638

If you have an entrance as well for your invisible barriers then you basically built a habitat inside another habitat. In which case you might want to check which of the 2 habitats your animals are supposed to be in.

If your invisible barriers have no entrance door, then they don't count as a habitat and are basically meaningless and serve no purpose at all. Null barriers are just to denote that somewhere is a habitat where no walls are needed.